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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHave some ginger and rosemary tea...
made with sliced ginger, dried rosemary leaves and hot water.
It's anti inflammatory without the side effects of pharmaceutical anti inflammatories.
Yum!
pecwae
(8,021 posts)WOO!
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)We have wild elderberries all over the place & my wife cans them in the fall.
polichick
(37,152 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)For those times when the immune system has failed to do its job, there is one natural remedy that has proven to be among the most effective for battling viruses. There are many natural remedies, foods and other techniques that can enhance immune function, but in the case of battling common viruses specifically, elderberry has a show to posses an especially high rate of efficacy. Elderberries, which happen to be a very powerful antioxidant, have been used for centuries in folk medicine (as well as today, in other countries around the world) to treat colds, influenza, wounds (when applied topically) and have even shown to be effective against the herpes simplex virus.
A 2001 study published in the U.S. National Library of Medicine stated that elderberry extracts are "natural remedies with antiviral properties, especially against different strains of influenza virus." Another 2004 study published in the NLM commented on reduced duration of flu symptoms when using elderberry: "Symptoms were relieved on average four days earlier and use of rescue medication was significantly less in those receiving elderberry extract compared with placebo." University of Maryland Medial Center writes "Elderberry may have anti-inflammatory, antiviral, and anticancer properties" and "one study suggested that elderberry could kill the H1N1 virus."
Why exactly are elderberries so effective?
It is hypothesized that black elderberries may include a specific compound, which coats viruses and keeps them from penetrating and infecting healthy cells. The truth is science cannot always pinpoint the exact reason mother nature's cures work as well as they do. There are unknown molecules in nature which work in mysterious ways with the body.
The human body and its mysterious abilities to heal and overcome sicknesses cannot always be identified or quantified by science. The body and mind are amazingly complex and that complexity works especially well with nature in its unaltered form. So, the next time you have a cold or flu, instead of running to the drugstore, create your own black elderberry elixir and you'll be better in no time.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/039367_black_elderberry_colds_anti-viral.html#ixzz2pYWjvzF9
polichick
(37,152 posts)"The truth is science cannot always pinpoint the exact reason mother nature's cures work as well as they do."
ProSense
(116,464 posts)"Mother nature is smarter than science..."
...is science. She's simply more advanced than some people can comprehend, and others believe they're smarter than both Mother Nature and science.
If you don't understand what you find in nature, it could kill.
polichick
(37,152 posts)I'm not one to laugh at one of her cures simply because science can't figure it out yet.
Interesting that wherever there is poison ivy, there is also jewelweed growing nearby - just one small example of Mother Nature's wisdom.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)I just moved into a house recently. I have poison ivy in my yard. I do not have any jewelweed. This year I will attempt to remedy that situation.
polichick
(37,152 posts)Mariana
(14,854 posts)and spread them around in a likely spot or two.
polichick
(37,152 posts)Mariana
(14,854 posts)make the seedpods explode. He didn't know it works to prevent poison ivy rash. He also didn't know the seeds are tasty.
cali
(114,904 posts)Nature isn't "wise". there is no such thing as "mother nature". It's simply nature. It isn't wise or stupid. I'm not sure why you feel the need to denigrate science. science is discipline dedicated to the natural world. It's part of the natural world. I'm by no means putting down the amazing properties of plants, but talking about nature in religious terms as you're doing, is a bit silly.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)...as if "mother nature" and "nature" are referencing the same thing: the "natural world" as you put it.
I mean, did you sense that there was a distinction that demanded clarification?
The "natural world" is more complex than most scientist understand, which I believe is the point.
It seems "a bit silly" to make a big deal out of the use of the label "mother nature."
polichick
(37,152 posts)I guess you could even say Mother of Science, metaphorically - but yes, it's more complex than the fields of science can yet comprehend.
cali
(114,904 posts)you are doing this:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anthropomorphize
polichick
(37,152 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)it's characterizing nature as a cognitive personality as the op does throughout this thread- which I think I made fairly clear. Of course nature is complex. the phenomena of the natural world is what science seeks to explain.
It's a bit silly to not grasp something so basic, hon.
"it's characterizing nature as a cognitive personality ...It's a bit silly to not grasp something so basic, hon."
...seems like "silly" spin in search of something to be upset about, "hon."
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)folks. When either become a belief system, that becomes a problem.
polichick
(37,152 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I have elderberry too, and read that it was a health aid in colds, but upon further research, discovered that most wild elderberry is not what is used in the OTC herbal remedies you can buy at a health food store. It is a special elderberry they use, with different properties. I would have to look it up again to recall what to look for...it's been many years since I stopped making elderberry syrup.
I wanted to edit this because I cannot find the info I found before, and maybe it was not really factual...maybe it was an attempt by herbalists to prohibit individuals from making their own remedies. So take this post with a grain of salt.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)There is a risk of activating the immune system!
http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/herb/elderberry
http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-434-ELDERBERRY.aspx?activeIngredientId=434&activeIngredientName=ELDERBERRY
polichick
(37,152 posts)and some people really have to be careful.
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)tridim
(45,358 posts)I'm starting to wonder if maybe Cannabis legalization is the catalyst for the recent influx of Woo Fighters?
Closed-mindedness is a Conservative trait.
polichick
(37,152 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)"I'm starting to wonder if maybe Cannabis legalization is the catalyst for the recent influx of Woo Fighters?"
...some weed would cure their anxiety.
polichick
(37,152 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)cerasse, lemon grass and soursop leaf tea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momordica_charantia#Local_names
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cymbopogon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soursop
polichick
(37,152 posts)cerasse or soursop. Yet!
malaise
(268,903 posts)we drink rosemary and mint tea every night. It's great for the memory
polichick
(37,152 posts)get the red out
(13,461 posts)BY GOD, and you call yourself a liberal!!!!! FOR SHAME!!!!!!!
That actually sounds pretty darn good with our temps here poised to drop 50 degrees overnight.
polichick
(37,152 posts)Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)Advil, Motrin, Aleve, Bayer.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)My rheumatologist told me to stop taking those because of fear of kidney damage. I try to add anti-inflammatories such as fish oil and cherry juice to my diet instead. I'm also adding glucosomine /chrondrotin for my arthritis knees. I think these items are in the can't hurt/might help category.
polichick
(37,152 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)funded and run by Big Pharma (you didn't think the FDA tests everything itself, did you?).
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)made from a bark right?
Motrin and advil are the exact same thing, and started life as well as a tea. Aleve is a close chemical cousin. You also know that Motrin, Advil and Aleve are a no-no drug is you happen to be a diabetic due to the effects with the liver, right? In fact, in my mind neither in this family should be an OTC due to the side effects, well known, why it was not OTC for decades. Another bad effect of this family is the GI bleeds that it can cause, or worst case, holes in the gut.
As to the teas, there is a reason why you should ALWAYS tell your doctors what you are taking, including all "natural remedies." They do have a certain level of interaction with meds that come in pill form.
I also should mention DIGITALIS, another well known plant based medicine that these days comes in pill form, as well as metmorfin. And not done in the US, but we know that Chamomile tea is a smooth muscle relaxant, and is used for tummy ache, why just drinking it for fun makes no sense to me. Wait, the curanderas have known this for over a thousand years.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)I took a botany class a couple years ago. If I remember correctly, aspirin is salicylic acid, which is found in willow bark. It was discovered in the 1700s by Edward Stone.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)as a source of medicine that works.
Hell, the US is BEHIND Europe in the adoption of some "natural medicines." They are embracing them (with research), since they work. What we are not behind is trying to steal some of these goods from third world nations, which has led to some interesting cases on biodiversity and who owns it in the courts. You do know this right?
And yes, Ginger does have some anti inflammatory effects. In my mind, instead of going, see these are well known meds. we should do the actual research and like Chamomile, FIND OUT WHY THEY WORK.
By the way, if we tried to do the research on Aspirin these days, the way the FDA works, it would still be in research. That is what is so damn funny about it.
Vashta Nerada
(3,922 posts)Until then, if there is no research backing up health claims, I will continue to ignore those claims until there is.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)avoid chamomile, there is plenty of research, but not in the US, so it is not good.
That is my view at this point.
As to condroitin, there is plenty of research. And as to Ginger, see what five seconds of a google search led to? Gee a nice PubMed article
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16117603
pecwae
(8,021 posts)you to accept those claims.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)I mean I wouldn't want to go against science or anything.
Zorra
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Autumn
(45,046 posts)I much prefer herbs than over the counter crap.
polichick
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(7,051 posts)That tea has intrigued me. Making some now ...