OJ Simpson, Claiming Brain Cancer, Seeks Obama Clemency

[SummerSnow]

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/01/oj_simpson_claiming_brain_cancer_seeks_obama_clemency.html?wpisrc=topstories


He is currently serving a 33-year sentence.

[Drunken Irishman]

1. Grant it.

[RBInMaine]

2. For this murderer? No F-ing way! Let this rotten bastard's death be prolonged and painful.

[mnmoderatedem]

4. Susan Atkins, Charles Manson disciple and murderer died in prison with no clemency from a tumor

that piece of shit can do the same

[krawhitham]

17. Was she a convicted murderer? OJ's not

[Ranchemp.]

28. And O.J.'s an idiot if he thinks Obama can grant him clemency.

[Jackpine Radical]

51. Exactly.

The RWNJ's would have a field day with something like that.

If he wouldn't pardon someone like Peltier, why would he do something for a person with as few redeeming virtues as OJ?

[Ranchemp.]

66. Difference is that Peltier is a federal prisoner so Obama has the authority to

pardon or give him clemency, whereas OJ is a state prisoner and Obama has no power or authority to pardon or grant clemency.

[Jackpine Radical]

73. You're right.

[RBInMaine]

42. He is an absolute rotten horrid ultra-narcissistic MURDERER and convict of other horrid crimes too.

OJ Simpson is EVIL. Pure EVIL. The ONLY reason he got off murder was a very SHITTY prosecution. There was TONS of evidence, and remember that he WAS found guilty of wrongful death in the civil trial. The evidence is overwhelming. He killed his ex wife, whom he abused for years, out of anger and jealousy and he felt he was entirely justified in doing it. He nearly decapitated her. He killed her friend Ron Goldman just because that guy was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Two beautiful young people cut down in the primes of their lives, literally, by a vicious criminal who killed them out of sheer spite with a knife.

Then he later hired thugs and stormed into a hotel room at gunpoint and held people hostage and threatened them, claiming he was trying to get things he owned. Sorry pal, but you don't get to do that.

He is a rotten, violent, evil murderer and violent thug with no remorse. He is finally getting real justice with this brain tumor. Let him rot in jail and may his brain cancer be prolonged and painful as it eats his brain and body and he dies right there in prison where he belongs and then may he burn in hell. Good.

[leftyohiolib]

61. that jury would have found hm not guilty regardless of the prosecution

[RBInMaine]

71. Possibly. But still, SADLY, a very weak prosecution. The physical and other circumstantial

evidence in that case was overwhelming. The guy just doesn't get more guilty. And the wrongful death jury overwhelmingly found him responsible for those deaths.

[alp227]

65. yep

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Atkins

[RBInMaine]

50. 10-4!

[Capt. Obvious]

46. Is that why he's in prison?

[Jackpine Radical]

52. No, but it's why it would be stupid to grant clemency.

You want to send up a huge, distracting fireball that sucks all the air out of Obama's last term? Let OJ out.

[Ranchemp.]

67. Pres. Obama doesn't have the authority to grant clemency to any state prisoner.

Only the state Gov.'s can grant clemency.

[Jackpine Radical]

72. I got that message, finally.

And it crtainly moots the OJ point, but I wouldn't expect ANY such releases of controversial prisoners, for the reason I gave.

[Ranchemp.]

15. Pres. Obama has no power of clemency for state prisoners,

that would have to come from Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval and I doubt that he'll grant O.J. clemency.

[Brother Buzz]

3. U.S. Presidents have no power to grant clemency for crimes prosecuted under state law

Is OJ in a state or Federal joint?

[SummerSnow]

6. State prison

[kysrsoze]

5. Tough shit... murderer. Lots of innocent people were actually put to death while in prison.

... and nobody helped them.

[HappyMe]

7. Hell NO!

No fucking way.

[Nye Bevan]

8. At least get a diagnosis first.

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I would (somewhat reluctantly) support his release to a hospice if he was truly terminal, wracked by pain, and had maybe 3 to 6 months to live. But as someone pointed out upthread the request should really go to the governor, not Obama.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

9. "May" have a tumor and seeking clemency from The President for a state crime.

I see he's hired the crack legal and medical team of Taitz and Schwarzenegger

[Tom Rinaldo]

10. Leonard Peltier deserves clemacy. Obama can start there n/t

[DLevine]

11. Agreed. nt

[Lex]

13. +1

[etherealtruth]

16. Yes!

[Bonobo]

39. +1 nt

[Ms. Toad]

12. How about waiting until they decide what it is

The article says he thinks it is cancer, and that he doesn't think he will live long.

Many tumors aren't cancerous - and some cancerous brain tumors are less dangerous than non-cancerous ones. Based on the article, it seems to me too soon to be talking about clemency.

[truebluegreen]

14. Forever too early for that guy.

[Mosby]

18. brain tumors dont have to be malignant to be fatal

Glial cell tumors for example.

It's mostly about operability afaik.

[Ms. Toad]

24. That's pretty much what I said about cancer/non-cancer.

But It isn't all about operability, either. Fast growing tumors in the brain are inherently risky because of the closed space - whether malignant or not. Slow growing tumors can hang out a long time without causing any significant harm, particularly if there is a treatment available to get rid of the malignancy (if it is malignant).

[Botany]

19. 1 in 55 billion .... that is the odds based on the DNA, hair samples, fibers, shoe size, and other .

.... stuff they found that OJ was not involved in the murders.



OJ wearing the exact same type of bruno magli shoes that made the bloody
footprints @ the crime scene.

[Katashi_itto]

20. Tough. Let him rot. Much more deserving people out there.

[joeybee12]

21. A certain type of brain cancer is common among those around 70-80...

The kind Teddy Kennedy had...it wouldn't surprise me if he did have it...he's the right age...

[Sheldon Cooper]

22. Ummmmm.....

[CFLDem]

53. Lol

The octopus takes the cake for me!

[exboyfil]

23. This murder trial was about the

same time as the Beckwith guilty verdict which was very satisfying if too late. I was chilled by the reaction in the African American community to the O.J. verdict in particular those in a television room on a traditionally black college. I guess since I am of European descent that I cannot really understand it. It certainly was not something to celebrate.

[Dr. Strange]

25. I predict this "seeking"...

will be as successful as his search for the real killer.

[Douglas Carpenter]

26. what a sad self-destructive life - and of course destructive for others too. Someone who had it all

then threw it all away - but managed even then to get away with murder - and even after that go and destroy himself again. I remember when I was in the 7th grade - way back about 1967 and all the excitement about him being signed on to the Buffalo Bills. Then he went on to greatness and then totally blew it - to put it very mildly

[Politicalboi]

27. Hey OJ, why don't you cure yourself

Do what you did to your wife and almost cut your fucking head off you piece of shit. You can't trust this asshole has cancer. He's a liar and a murderer. And "We was deliberated".

[bonzaga]

29. For OJ

[PowerToThePeople]

30. If he has the cancery you must clemency.

[maxsolomon]

31. If he has a brain tumor, let him out.

He's not in prison for the murders he committed, as much as we're all convinced he deserves to be. He's in there for "stealing back" some memorabilia from a sports memorabilia collector. At gunpoint. He's eligible for parole in December 2017.

If he has a Glioblastoma, there's no point in punishing him any more. My mom died in 6 months from diagnosis. Ted Kennedy died in less than a year.

A brain tumor at that age is the end.

[bonzaga]

32. Oh yes he is

On paper, he may be in prison for robbing people at gunpoint. But he's actually in prison for the murders he committed. Let's not kid ourselves.

[Gravitycollapse]

41. "Let's not kid ourselves." - What are you talking about?

[bonzaga]

49. Anybody else would've gotten probation

Come on. If it wasn't OJ, he'd never have gotten the sentence he got.

[Gravitycollapse]

57. For kidnapping and robbery? Uh, no. They would also be in prison.

You're grasping at straws.

[Ranchemp.]

68. For Kidnapping and Armed Robbery?

Not a chance, he got what any other citizen would have gotten if convicted of those crimes.

[El_Johns]

38. +1.

[RBInMaine]

43. He's a rotten EVIL murderer who needs to rot in jail and die there. Period.

[JimDandy]

62. He is in prison for an action directly related to his civil trial conviction.

Simpson conspired to hide thousands of valuable memorabilia items with friends in order to avoid complying with a court order that he turn over assets to the Goldmans as payment for the death of their son.

One of those "friends" claimed he was given hundreds of those items. The "friend" then authorized a dealer to sell those items he claims he was given. Simpson is in prison for robbing the dealer while his accomplices held them all at gunpoint. The California courts also should have charged Simpson with lying about his assets.

Prisoners often die in prison from illnesses while serving their sentences. Absolutely NO clemency for this horror of a person.

[maxsolomon]

74. Again, IF he genuinely has a brain tumor

Then he's about to fall into a coma and never wake up. Even with surgery and chemo he's unlikely to last 6 months.

Having the State cover his medical bills while he's dying, oblivious to his punishment, seems rather pointless to me.

[Chan790]

33. Considering his realities...

he's better off for his own sake on the inside rather than passionately released. The guy is broke and subject to court-ordered forfeiture...meaning he's really broke. Incarcerated he'll get transferred to a state hospital, receive treatment and have expanded visitation privileges.

On the outside, broke, he's facing minimums of care. Palliative pain-management until he dies. That is, if it's cancer and it's non-operative; otherwise, he'll get surgery and chemo and live another 5 years and doesn't need a release.

[pnwmom]

35. Isn't he eligible for Medicare? Medicare pays for cancer treatment. n/t

[Packerowner740]

34. Must've had it for a long time

A little longer won't matter

[Raine]

36. Susan Atkins didn't get out when she was dying, OJ shouldn't either. nt

[ProgressSaves]

37. It would be a clown move to give OJ Simpson clemency for any reason.

No political operative in their right mind would suggest it to POTUS.

[marshall]

40. Shouldn't he be appealing to the governor?

Hopefully he's not doing this under advice of his attorney, because he is woefully misinformed about who does what.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

44. Well, it worked for some Libyan guy in a Scottish prison ...

... might as well give it a try.

What's he got to lose?

[Ranchemp.]

70. Except that the POTUS has no power to grant clemency to

state prisoners, only federal prisoners.

[ladyVet]

45. *He* thinks he has cancer? When did he get a medical degree?

Geez. This guy never gives up, does he?

As far as I'm concerned, he can stay in prison and die there. He's a lousy excuse for a husband and father, a murderer even if he got away with it, and deserves nothing special. There are many, many people ahead of him that should get clemency.

And I say this as someone who used to love him. I adored him when he played football, and followed his acting career. How far the idols can fall, eh?

[Capt. Obvious]

47. Free O.J.!

He didn't steal those collectibles! He was framed!

[Paladin]

48. Mr. Simpson has received enough clemency for several lifetimes already. (nt)

[tularetom]

54. Didn't he already use his get out of jail free card?

The rest of don't even get one in a lifetime.

[Lil Missy]

55. There's no way he'd be granted clemency. Let him rot. n/t

[Skittles]

56. he can fuck himself

I will never feel an ounce of sympathy for that murdering bastard

[mike_c]

58. look at most of the responses in this thread!

THIS is why we have wars on drugs, poor people, and minorities. THIS is why smoking cannabis will ruin your life for years in much of America. THIS is why we use three-strikes laws to throw people down the prison-industrial complex hole for shoplifting food for their kids. THIS is why consensual sex between men was a ticket to prison and chemical castration, or worse, in much of the nation until very recently. THIS is why we've militarized our police forces and made it illegal to get up in the morning or go to bed at night, and to do half the stuff we do in between.

We are obsessed with punishment and revenge. I have to say, whenever I see these threads about people who've been convicted of crimes and are being punished, it disgusts me that liberal, progressive people cannot find it within themselves to seek solutions rather than ever greater degrees of revenge. I guess revenge is easy and solutions are harder.

We have a lot to learn from people who see lots of light between justice and punishment.

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/feb/25/norwegian-prison-inmates-treated-like-people

/rant

[alphafemale]

59. OK. The 14 year old that sliced his parents' throats while they slept?

Gets to come live with you.

We couldn't punish the poor misunderstood snowflake after all.

Thank you for volunteering.

And don't you dare hide the knives.

That might hurt his precious little feelings.

He has to believe you trust him.

And don't lock your doors.

(for the challenged.)

[mike_c]

63. was that actually meant to be helpful...

...or is it just more of the same general lust for vengeance that's on display all over this thread? Do you think that what you're suggesting would actually accomplish anything positive? Or did you just mean to shame me for suggesting that justice and revenge are not the same things?

[doc03]

60. You all may think he is a murderer. He wasn't conviced for murder, he was

railroaded for trying to get his own stuff back. Release him if he really has cancer, hell Dick Cheney, GWB and rest of the gang walk around free every day.

[Ellipsis]

64. I actually have a picuture of OJ wearing the gloves that don't fit.

He's guilty.

[Lex]

69. He's been on WebMD again

and thinks he has brain cancer. Like anyone else who looks up their symptoms on WebMD.