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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 08:09 AM Jan 2014

Senator Ted Cruz, still Canadian

By Anthony Zurcher

In August, the Dallas Morning News reported that US Senator Ted Cruz was, by having been born in Calgary, a Canadian citizen.

The story was good for a few laughs, and Mr Cruz quickly announced that he would renounce his Canadian citizenship.

"Nothing against Canada, but I'm an American by birth, and as a US senator I believe I should be only an American," he said in a statement.

Fast forward nearly five months, and Mr Cruz is still a Canadian in good standing.

"I have retained counsel that is preparing the paperwork to renounce the citizenship," he told the Dallas paper.

All this has Canadians scratching their heads.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-echochambers-25646867

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no_hypocrisy

(46,083 posts)
1. When the Constitution directs that only a "natural born citizen" may be President,q
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 08:27 AM
Jan 2014

does it mean literally a new birth certificate be issued from the U.S. or would a court ruling on your citizenship being American do the trick?

It's one thing to renounce your Canadian citizenship, but it's another to have an affirmative declaration of citizenship in another country if you enjoy dual citizenship.

And I was wondering, if Cruz ever left this country and which country issued his passport or Visa.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
4. He has a U.S. passport. What has been odd about this whole thing is that
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 12:09 PM
Jan 2014

he has a Canadian birth certificate, but has never produced the usual State Dept form FS-240, which documents the birth of a U.S. citizen abroad. Now, according to State Dept., it is recommended, but not required, that parents have this form filled out for their children born abroad.

To get a U.S. passport, you must have some sort of proof that you are a U.S. citizen. Once you get a passport, that passport can be used as proof of citizenship. Cruz got his first passport at age 14 -- so, what proof did he use to get it? There had to be some sort of paper. Where is it?

It does look like his mother did fulfill the residency req in the US before Cruz was born (she had resided in the US for a total of 10 yrs before he was born, 5 of those years after she was the age of 14), but why his parents haven't simply produced the same paperwork (whatever it was) that was used to get his passport, to get him enrolled in school in the states, to get his first job, etc., I have no idea.

There is one reason he may not have officially applied to renounce his Canadian citizenship -- he may be afraid that Canadians won't accept the passport as proof of US citizenship; they may want a more primary document like an FS-240 or a court ruling. Canada will not revoke citizenship of a person who will become stateless as a result.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
2. If Canada knew what was good for them, they would
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 10:24 AM
Jan 2014

have had the paperwork sitting on the corner of the desk and ready to fill in the dates the minute they received the request to renounce.

Too bad we can't send him back.

sorefeet

(1,241 posts)
8. He doesn't want to lose
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 12:45 PM
Jan 2014

his Canadian citizenship. It really is a valuable asset. He is blowing smoke. Just like Liz, she dropped out because she knew she couldn't win, so take the million bucks in her campaign finance and quietly go away. Smiling on the way to the bank. This shit is all a game to these folks.

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