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Understandably, there is a lot of discussion of how men regard or "see" women. Here's a recent example:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4298093
While a little broad brush, I can't argue it's not true a great number of men relate to women primarily on that level, and it's the source of a lot of societal woe. Pondering this made me wonder about the flip side of the coin; whether or not there is there a corollary for how women regard or see men? Do women ever have concepts or expectations of men that may cause them to view men through a similarly narrow lens? Do you see men as you would like to be seen, full spectrum? Can you, considering the way you believe they see you?
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)I lived in Los Angeles. I was asked out by women so much that I rarely ever looked for dates. I was picked up in bars by women for one night stands.
I'm not saying this to brag but a lot of this issue is concerned with the idea of mutual attraction. I mean that if you want the attention it isn't harassment and that works both ways.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)everyone is different and has different parameters on how they find people attractive or not. for some its looks, others money, power, humour, profession etc.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)and two different arguments, in a sense. If men are seen as sexy, meaty objects, that doesn't in any way harm their reputation. If women are viewed as sexy, meaty objects it's also assumed she isn't intelligent, if she has a good position in her job, she obviously slept her way to the top, etc. I'm not saying there aren't women who have done this, because I'm sure there are. But it's really all about perception.
So, then it comes down to feelings and men have to answer this question and honestly, does it make you feel bad when women think of you as sexy? Does it make you feel as though your worth is degraded, does it make you wonder if she is going to take you seriously? I can't answer that question, 'cause I'm not a guy.
As far as male expectations, I don't have any--except of my two male roommates. I expect them to pay their bills on time and be good human beings but I have no use for them sexually (I'm a lesbian) and I usually help them do things many would expect a man to do for a woman. We share fairly equally in my home.