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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:30 PM Jan 2014

Why would Christie(or his minions)even BOTHER getting vengeance on "that little Serbian"?

The guy was a Democrat...he didn't OWE Christie an endorsement. And Christie had just won by thirty points anyway.

Why would they care so freaking much about not getting more votes in Fort Lee?

(Were the mad because they couldn't get "Mr. Richard Fedder" to vote for them?)

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Why would Christie(or his minions)even BOTHER getting vengeance on "that little Serbian"? (Original Post) Ken Burch Jan 2014 OP
You have to see how his parents raised him and who taunted him as a child. n/t TheBlackAdder Jan 2014 #1
Sometimes sociopaths just happen! etherealtruth Jan 2014 #13
You mean LIKE THIS? TrollBuster9090 Jan 2014 #21
They had orders to get blanket Dem endorsement for the Boss elfin Jan 2014 #2
I think that's pretty close. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #3
gives a hint about the mentality in his 'circle of family' spanone Jan 2014 #4
he lives on fear and intimidation. cheyanne Jan 2014 #5
Do you really believe the statement you wrote? Are you even the slightest bit familiar with okaawhatever Jan 2014 #6
No, I don't need to be on a right-wing website. Just can't understand the overkill here. Ken Burch Jan 2014 #22
Becauae that's what a bully does. JoePhilly Jan 2014 #7
Politics everywhere runs on favors and grudges Fumesucker Jan 2014 #18
I'm from philly with family in NJ JoePhilly Jan 2014 #19
I believe I read yesterday that he wanted Democratic endorsement justiceischeap Jan 2014 #8
The more endorsements from countingbluecars Jan 2014 #9
To show them what happens when you don't do what Christie says you should? herding cats Jan 2014 #10
Take a look at this article for other examples of retribution. athena Jan 2014 #11
+1. jsr Jan 2014 #20
to set an example for anybody else who dared cross him? magical thyme Jan 2014 #12
Why did Nixon's campaign break into Jenoch Jan 2014 #14
Because Christie needed EVERYONE to be in his "circle of trust" frazzled Jan 2014 #15
because they are small and petty. nt arthritisR_US Jan 2014 #16
Because it's fun? Fumesucker Jan 2014 #17

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
21. You mean LIKE THIS?
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 08:19 PM
Jan 2014

His need to confront and punish some random nobody on the street, who 'dared' to shout something he didn't even hear properly, says it all.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
2. They had orders to get blanket Dem endorsement for the Boss
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:33 PM
Jan 2014

Most likely in no uncertain terms, spare no effort etc. Maybe "get creative" was in the instruction list.

They jumped to please him and indeed jumped off a bridge to do it.

cheyanne

(733 posts)
5. he lives on fear and intimidation.
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:38 PM
Jan 2014

Needs to know that he can control everyone around him.

also minor megalomania . .

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
6. Do you really believe the statement you wrote? Are you even the slightest bit familiar with
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:38 PM
Jan 2014

Christie's reign as a federal prosecutor and his political prosecutions? Don't you need to be on some right wing website?

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
22. No, I don't need to be on a right-wing website. Just can't understand the overkill here.
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 10:13 PM
Jan 2014

If Christie had unexpectedly lost by 300 votes, and Fort Lee had gone against him by 75%, I could make sense of it.

Not sure why you're expressing so much hostility here. I don't live in New Jersey, so I can't be expected to be totally up-to-speed on Christie's "backstory". Chill, dude.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
7. Becauae that's what a bully does.
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:40 PM
Jan 2014

New Jersey politics run, in large part, on favors, and grudges.

My sense is that all of the mayors knew that if you did not endorse Christie, you could expect some negative outcome.

Maybe your paper work for some state level funding gets "lost" or "misplaced" ... maybe your requests sink a little further down the bureaucratic stack.

Think like a mob boss.

Either the store owners pay protection, or they risk some "accident" becoming more likely.

There real is not other reason that I've heard anyone put forward.

"Why did Christie's minions do this?" That is THE question.

The ONLY reason is some form of political retribution. You'll notice no one, not even Christie has some alternative reason.

His staff did this "for him" or on his "behalf".

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
18. Politics everywhere runs on favors and grudges
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 07:35 PM
Jan 2014

I've been peripherally involved in politics a couple of rather different places that aren't New Jersey, one of them was Plaquemines Parish LA, so corrupt even Sixty Minutes noticed. Favors and grudges, I guarantee.

Then I became related by marriage to a politically connected family in another state and got a major education in just how things are done there.

Corruption isn't just endemic to politics, it's pandemic.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
19. I'm from philly with family in NJ
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 08:03 PM
Jan 2014

and they've been in that area for decades.

NJ, at all levels, runs on a barter system of sorts.

I'm on my phone now, but I have described in other threads months back how people there trade favors and use grudges to prioritize their work.

My brother in law has hilarious stories of how he got season tickets for the flyers.

No one in NJ is surprised here. What they are all doing now is angling for what happens next.

How do I leverage this?

That's what's going on now.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
8. I believe I read yesterday that he wanted Democratic endorsement
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:40 PM
Jan 2014

so he could say he "reaches across the aisle" when 2016 rolls around. This was a move intended to make him look good for a Presidential bid. It backfired.

countingbluecars

(4,766 posts)
9. The more endorsements from
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:40 PM
Jan 2014

Democrats the better. He is/was going to use working across the aisle as his claim to fame when running for president.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
10. To show them what happens when you don't do what Christie says you should?
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:41 PM
Jan 2014

That is the only reason I keep coming up with that makes any sense. They wanted to intimidate him so he knew not to make that mistake again.

athena

(4,187 posts)
11. Take a look at this article for other examples of retribution.
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:47 PM
Jan 2014
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/25/nyregion/accounts-of-petty-retribution-reinforce-christies-bullying-image.html

In 2010, John F. McKeon, a New Jersey assemblyman, made what he thought was a mild comment on a radio program: Some of the public employees that Gov. Chris Christie was then vilifying had been some of the governor’s biggest supporters.

He was surprised to receive a handwritten note from Mr. Christie, telling him that he had heard the comments, and that he didn’t like them.

“I thought it was a joke,” Mr. McKeon recalled. “What governor would take the time to write a personal note over a relatively innocuous comment?”

But the gesture would come to seem genteel compared with the fate suffered by others in disagreements with Mr. Christie: a former governor who was stripped of police security at public events; a Rutgers professor who lost state financing for cherished programs; a state senator whose candidate for a judgeship suddenly stalled; another senator who was disinvited from an event with the governor in his own district.
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
12. to set an example for anybody else who dared cross him?
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:48 PM
Jan 2014

and because he could. That's how bullies operate.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
14. Why did Nixon's campaign break into
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:50 PM
Jan 2014

the DNC headquarters in 1972? Nixon was so far out in front that of course it was not necessary.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
15. Because Christie needed EVERYONE to be in his "circle of trust"
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 07:19 PM
Jan 2014

Honestly, he said today he has a "circle of trust."

And all I could think of was Robert DeNiro in Meet the Fokkers.

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