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lindysalsagal

(20,676 posts)
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 06:01 PM Jan 2014

Salon: 5 Reasons Chris Christie Might Be Lying

http://www.salon.com/2014/01/11/5_reasons_chris_christie_might_be_lying/

5 reasons Chris Christie might be lying

Applying the techniques of lie detection to Christie's press conference yields some very interesting results
AMY PUNT

While liespotting isn’t an exact science, and there are always exceptions, knowing how to identify certain telltale behaviors can provide some very interesting clues. Below, five mistakes Christie made in his press conference that may be signs of less-than-truthful behavior.

1. Too much detail regarding unimportant issues. According to Meyer, a subject will often offer specific details that have nothing to do with the question of his guilt as a way of validating his claim of innocence. It’s as if the specificity will add credibility to what he’s about to tell you. However, when you listen closely, you’ll observe that the abundance of details does not lead to relevant information.

When explaining how he learned of the breach in his office regarding the bridge lane closures, Christie said that he finished his workout at 8:50 and received a call from his director of communication at 8:55. Then he said, “I found this out at 8:50 yesterday morning. By 9:00 this morning, Bridget Kelly was fired. By 7:00 yesterday evening, Bill Stepien was asked to leave my organization.”

This may sound credible, but it begs the follow-up question, where’s the inquiry? Why fire your deputy chief of staff without talking to her further to find out who else might have been involved and what her motive might have been. As a former attorney, Christie knows that establishing motive is critical to securing a conviction of guilt, and if she’s the linchpin, why isn’t he speaking to her to find the others involved? Instead, when asked why Kelly lied to him, he said, “I have not had any conversation with Bridget Kelly since the email came out. More at link.
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Salon: 5 Reasons Chris Christie Might Be Lying (Original Post) lindysalsagal Jan 2014 OP
K&R! TeamPooka Jan 2014 #1
Reason 6: His mouth is open. n/t IllinoisBirdWatcher Jan 2014 #2
True dat. Cha Jan 2014 #4
"leave my organization".. oh boy.. I saw that part of the marathon presser.. Cha Jan 2014 #3
And, it is not HIS "organization," it is the people's government. SunSeeker Jan 2014 #11
That's what I'm talkin About! He sounds like some kinda Cha Jan 2014 #15
Yes indeed. Not hard to tell the good guys from the bad guys here. nt SunSeeker Jan 2014 #19
Because ProSense Jan 2014 #5
this comment about the lanes was ridiculous! if you have ever been up to FT Lee and used the bettyellen Jan 2014 #8
Did ANY reporter ask about the "sauced" comment during those 2 hours? SunSeeker Jan 2014 #12
The comment was from December. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #13
I know. That's why there's no excuse for not bringing it up. SunSeeker Jan 2014 #14
True, and he should have been ProSense Jan 2014 #16
Yup, that call to Cuomo was terribly damning. SunSeeker Jan 2014 #20
Cuomo is either licking his chops for 2016, or trying to cover his tracks, if he was at all involved lindysalsagal Jan 2014 #21
If Cuomo told Foye to lighten up, Coumo's fucked. SunSeeker Jan 2014 #23
And, dazzle some people he did, PS.. Cha Jan 2014 #17
Keep up the chin music Sir JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #6
Bridgeghazi.....eom Purrfessor Jan 2014 #7
It was SO obvious that he had talked to his legal staff and they told him not to even talk with CTyankee Jan 2014 #9
Yes! Cha Jan 2014 #18
Reason #0 jimlup Jan 2014 #10
Eh, Mafia bosses usually have no idea what their capos are doing. jsr Jan 2014 #22

Cha

(297,154 posts)
3. "leave my organization".. oh boy.. I saw that part of the marathon presser..
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 06:25 PM
Jan 2014
"When explaining how he learned of the breach in his office regarding the bridge lane closures, Christie said that he finished his workout at 8:50 and received a call from his director of communication at 8:55. Then he said, “I found this out at 8:50 yesterday morning. By 9:00 this morning, Bridget Kelly was fired. By 7:00 yesterday evening, Bill Stepien was asked to leave my organization.”

thanks lindysalsagal

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
11. And, it is not HIS "organization," it is the people's government.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 08:46 PM
Jan 2014

They are there to do THE PEOPLE'S business. So it doesn't matter if Christie doesn't want to know why she said "time for traffic problems." THE PEOPLE DO.

If you want to know what a true public servant sounds like who is doing the people's business, read Patrick Foye's 9-13-13 memo, and compare that to how Christie or his flying monkeys talk.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024314942



Cha

(297,154 posts)
15. That's what I'm talkin About! He sounds like some kinda
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 10:55 PM
Jan 2014

Mob head! I know damn well Christie does not think his "org." is For the People and By The People but he's dead wrong. And, chickenshits are coming home to Roost.

Really Good POInts, SunSeeker!

"9/13/13".. exactly One Month after the Infamous.. "Time for some traffic problems in Fort Lee." from Christie's Deputy COS..

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/questions-for-christie-bridge-scandal-gwb-lane-closures-2014-1#ixzz2q9Hvv0p2

My reply on the thread link you provided..

He is a "hero".. I said that a couple of days ago! To Patrick Foye!

I like me some John Wisniewski and Loretta Weinberg, too!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4316790

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. Because
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 06:35 PM
Jan 2014

"Why fire your deputy chief of staff without talking to her further to find out who else might have been involved and what her motive might have been."

...this asshole thinks continuing to play the bully makes him look good.

His press conference was a con job, an attempt to dazzle people with bullshit.

It reminds me of this Christie response from early December, which Chris Hayes feature in a recent segment:

CHRISTIE: I didn`t know Fort Lee got three dedicated lanes until all this stuff happened. I sat in that traffic before I was governor, the fact that one town has three lanes dedicated to it? That kind of gets me sauced.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/54031801/ns/msnbc-all_in_with_chris_hayes/

That's a about 3:50 into the first tape posted here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024303805

He was "sauced."

He wasn't upset about the dangerous situation created by the lane closures, he was "sauced" that Fort Lee had "three lanes dedicated to it." (lie)










 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
8. this comment about the lanes was ridiculous! if you have ever been up to FT Lee and used the
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:11 PM
Jan 2014

bridge, you'd know that the entire town is designed around access routes to the bridge. The access to the bridge is needed for the whole area to have a flow of traffic, because there are so many roads converging there already.
They handle a huge traffic flow very very well. Because experts have worked on it. The ego of him coming in and thinking that he knows better, even when informed of the huge problems it was causing reducing the lanes. What an ass.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
12. Did ANY reporter ask about the "sauced" comment during those 2 hours?
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 08:52 PM
Jan 2014

They really weren't trying all that hard, and I just couldn't keep watching them enable him for his pity party. They didn't even catch his 1 sleepless night/2 sleepless nights slip-up.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
14. I know. That's why there's no excuse for not bringing it up.
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 10:50 PM
Jan 2014

Example: "Governor, how can you now say you're sorry about what happened to Fort Lee's commuters when you previously said that you're sauced that Fort Lee has 3 access lanes. What made you change your mind about them not deserving three open lanes?"

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
20. Yup, that call to Cuomo was terribly damning.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 01:04 PM
Jan 2014

And no one could think to ask about it even though they had 2 hours?! As bad as that press conference was, it should have been a lot worse. The next one will be.

lindysalsagal

(20,676 posts)
21. Cuomo is either licking his chops for 2016, or trying to cover his tracks, if he was at all involved
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 01:10 PM
Jan 2014

Personally, I hope he's involved and his hands wil be dirtied by it.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
23. If Cuomo told Foye to lighten up, Coumo's fucked.
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 01:20 PM
Jan 2014

I can't believe he'd be that stupid, but he does have a blue dog streak and has been pretty accommodating to Republicans. That's why Christie called him.

Foye will no doubt be subpoenaed and this will all come out. Pass the popcorn!

Cha

(297,154 posts)
17. And, dazzle some people he did, PS..
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 12:06 AM
Jan 2014
"He wasn't upset about the dangerous situation created by the lane closures, he was "sauced" that Fort Lee had "three lanes dedicated to it." (lie)"

Fucking guy. "Sauced" alright.. to the fucking gills.

Mahalo PS.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
9. It was SO obvious that he had talked to his legal staff and they told him not to even talk with
Sat Jan 11, 2014, 07:32 PM
Jan 2014

Kelly and Stepian and then he made out like it was "they lied to me so I didn't feel I needed to ask them anything." I laughed out loud when he said that...You have to be a child or a nincompoop not to see that for what it is...a lawyer's advice to reduce your "culpability"....

Cha

(297,154 posts)
18. Yes!
Sun Jan 12, 2014, 12:09 AM
Jan 2014
"It was SO obvious that he had talked to his legal staff and they told him not to even talk with

Kelly and Stepian and then he made out like it was "they lied to me so I didn't feel I needed to ask them anything." I laughed out loud when he said that...You have to be a child or a nincompoop not to see that for what it is...a lawyer's advice to reduce your "culpability"...."


"nincompoop".. IOW, a brainwashed republicon.. wonder how many dem mayors who voted for Christie bought IT?
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