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boston bean

(36,221 posts)
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 08:24 AM Jan 2014

CNN exclusive: Feds investigating Christie's use of Sandy relief funds

Washington (CNN) -- Just days after dismissing two top advisers for their roles in the George Washington Bridge scandal, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is facing questions over the use of Superstorm Sandy relief funds.

CNN has learned that federal officials are investigating whether Christie improperly used those relief funds to produce tourism ads that starred him and his family.

The news couldn't come at a worse time for the scandal-plagued Republican, who is facing two probes into whether his staff tied up traffic near the country's busiest bridge to punish a Democratic mayor who refused to endorse his successful re-election bid.

N.J. Democratic legislator: 'I do believe laws have been broken'


http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/13/politics/christie-feds-investigating-sandy-ads/index.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_allpolitics+(RSS%3A+Politics)
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CNN exclusive: Feds investigating Christie's use of Sandy relief funds (Original Post) boston bean Jan 2014 OP
I've been saying for a few days that my only TBF Jan 2014 #1
interesting. But, you don't take your front runner out when you have NO ONE Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2014 #4
He's not nearly conservative enough for their zealots TBF Jan 2014 #5
I was really being fictitious. But, Christie was their only chance, IMHO, before bridgegate. Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2014 #21
I agree. He was the only one I was worried about - until now. Chemisse Jan 2014 #27
I think that you meant facetious, not fictitious. Beacool Jan 2014 #41
Yes ! facetious ! Sorry, it was early. Well, live around a ton of wingnuts and Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2014 #60
Let's hope someone doesn't emerge flamingdem Jan 2014 #64
Actually... elzenmahn Jan 2014 #80
He's old school conservative like Bush - TBF Jan 2014 #82
Christie is a loose cannon, R Merm Jan 2014 #13
hah NJCher Jan 2014 #26
Dude is a narcissist. Beacool Jan 2014 #42
Yes! I think he and Ted Cruz were TBF Jan 2014 #47
i hope you didn't just hurl on your bankie... dionysus Jan 2014 #69
Nope, never. Beacool Jan 2014 #70
they don't believe they have NO ONE rurallib Jan 2014 #20
Would enjoy watching Ted Cruz missile or Rand flamingdem Jan 2014 #65
You can knock Hucka-who(?) off the list. Even his fundie base doesn't want to vote for him. Hestia Jan 2014 #75
THIS is their weakness flying rabbit Jan 2014 #78
I don't know why everybody keeps ignoring Jebbie BlueStreak Jan 2014 #30
Not gonna happen jeff47 Jan 2014 #54
Substitute "Bill" for "W" and "Hillary" for "Jeb" and you have EXACTLY the same argument BlueStreak Jan 2014 #57
People don't have to automatically tie them together. jeff47 Jan 2014 #59
NEVER underestimate Jeb BrotherIvan Jan 2014 #66
Barbara has already said "there have been enough Bushs in the white house" sounds like she put the okaawhatever Jan 2014 #68
The reason everyone forgets about Jeb is because he is a snooze fest on camera. Hestia Jan 2014 #77
Don't underestimate him. And remember, the Party is only looking for BlueStreak Jan 2014 #79
Enter stage right wing: Jeb Bush. nt tblue37 Jan 2014 #39
That's what I'm talking about. TBF Jan 2014 #48
The fact that he is the one viable candidate nobody is talking about is telling BlueStreak Jan 2014 #58
Everything I have seen suggests that Far RWers consider Jeb as bad as Christie, ie a RINO. stevenleser Jan 2014 #63
Jeb will be highlighted... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #67
They consider him the same as Christie. nt stevenleser Jan 2014 #62
But the thing is - all those uninteresting future also-rans still THINK they're worthy of calimary Jan 2014 #81
This actually started a couple months ago BumRushDaShow Jan 2014 #9
Ahhh. Kicking this back into the news at this time makes a lot of sense for those gunning for him. Chemisse Jan 2014 #28
What about any of this is "fighting dirty"? -eom gcomeau Jan 2014 #38
My theory that his own party TBF Jan 2014 #51
The day he slammed house Republicans for not sending Sandy relief money FourScore Jan 2014 #43
Yup, that was not wise on his part. nt TBF Jan 2014 #52
Holy shit. Add Sandygate to Emailgate to Bridgegate. Take him out early. nt Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2014 #2
SWEET!! PearliePoo2 Jan 2014 #3
There's a lot of road between accusations and consequences. obxhead Jan 2014 #71
At last! JustAnotherGen Jan 2014 #6
Holy Cow. I can't imagine how pissed I'd be sufrommich Jan 2014 #7
I guess they are running up the score maindawg Jan 2014 #8
Not to mention- Zoonart Jan 2014 #10
Both husband and wife are lying crooked thugs. jsr Jan 2014 #11
I'm both embarrassed and angry that he was wearing a Rutgers shirt Trekologer Jan 2014 #18
He's a political thug and she's a Wall Street thug. factsarenotfair Jan 2014 #56
Yes! I'm sure that every grant from the Sandy Relief charity she manages required a quid pro quo. factsarenotfair Jan 2014 #55
They should investigate ProSense Jan 2014 #12
Those funds were meant for tourism ads... Laxman Jan 2014 #14
Evidently, ProSense Jan 2014 #16
BP paid for those ads.Relief funds can't be used for tourism sufrommich Jan 2014 #17
Yes They Can.... Laxman Jan 2014 #22
You're right. My apologies. nt sufrommich Jan 2014 #24
No need to apologize... Laxman Jan 2014 #25
The Gulf Open For Business Ads Cheviteau Jan 2014 #40
Refer to post 22. Then apologize. n/t FourScore Jan 2014 #44
I'm not sure the veracity of the charges really matter at this point. FourScore Jan 2014 #50
It will be interesting to see what Rubio does this week. Kingofalldems Jan 2014 #15
proceed governor spanone Jan 2014 #19
Looks like some possible nepotism. herding cats Jan 2014 #23
Not that I'm surprise of this but I have a question bigdarryl Jan 2014 #29
It did come out BumRushDaShow Jan 2014 #36
This is what happens when an arrogant man surrounds himself with arrogant advisors. madaboutharry Jan 2014 #31
Christie Allegedly Diverted Millions In Hurricane Sandy Relief Funds To Pay For TV Ads Starring Hims ProSense Jan 2014 #32
Divert is the Wrong Word.... Laxman Jan 2014 #37
speaking as a former advertising manager NJCher Jan 2014 #33
I thought they were very professional! Laxman Jan 2014 #35
Imagine living in the media market for South Jersey BumRushDaShow Jan 2014 #46
all the while punishing the mayor of Hoboken for withholding her endorsement for him... CTyankee Jan 2014 #34
This is nothing new to those who paid attention. Beacool Jan 2014 #45
Sorry, guess I wasn't paying attention. nt boston bean Jan 2014 #49
Well, if you don't live in NJ I wouldn't expect too many other people to know. Beacool Jan 2014 #53
gotta wonder what took them so long questionseverything Jan 2014 #61
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #72
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #73
Hello. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #74
Excellent gopiscrap Jan 2014 #76

TBF

(32,047 posts)
1. I've been saying for a few days that my only
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 08:43 AM
Jan 2014

remaining question is whether it's the dems or repugs who are destroying Christie.

I do think it is his fellow repugs - dems never fight this dirty.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
4. interesting. But, you don't take your front runner out when you have NO ONE
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 08:48 AM
Jan 2014

interesting to replace him, do you ?

TBF

(32,047 posts)
5. He's not nearly conservative enough for their zealots
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 08:50 AM
Jan 2014

even George P. Bush (Jeb's kid) is spouting off about being a tea bagger lately - he is running for land commissioner in Texas. Heaven help us.

They have Jeb, Rubio, Ryan and more. I don't think they want Ted Cruz or Chris Christie. Too crazy. The old guys with money like folks they can control. Those two are loose cannons. IMO.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
21. I was really being fictitious. But, Christie was their only chance, IMHO, before bridgegate.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 09:56 AM
Jan 2014

He is the absolutely the only one with any kind of excitement to him. Albeit - not conservative enough, crooked, loose cannon, whatever. Despite his Tony Soprano-esque-ness, he has/had a certain amount of likability to the masses. Even if the right wing PTB think he is not conservative enough, the everyday wingnut likes him - his brashness and take no prisoners approach.

I don't think anything that's been uncovered in the last couple weeks has hurt him with this constituency. The group he has probably lost, the one everyone who runs needs, is the apolitical middle who thought he was a pragmatic, tell-it-like-it is compromiser.

There are probably contradictions in all I have written - but think this whole Christie thing is still playing out. Who knows what the new revelations - about emailgate and Sandygate will affect.

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
27. I agree. He was the only one I was worried about - until now.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 10:13 AM
Jan 2014

I think he has had a lot of general appeal and would have given our Dem a run for his/her money in 2016.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
41. I think that you meant facetious, not fictitious.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:22 AM
Jan 2014

Christie is popular with centrist Republicans. His problem is that the base who help elect the nominee despise him and call him a Rino. He's just not crazy enough for them.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
60. Yes ! facetious ! Sorry, it was early. Well, live around a ton of wingnuts and
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 01:35 PM
Jan 2014

at a dinner party the other night they ALL loved him despite the bridge deal. These people hate it when someone is trying to dig into someone's private business. Except of course if it's Obama or the Clinton's.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
64. Let's hope someone doesn't emerge
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 03:45 PM
Jan 2014

who looks like a savior and can unite the Repukes.

The Kochs must be trying to create one in the Laboratory right now!
(Walker won't cut it..)

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
80. Actually...
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:50 AM
Jan 2014

...check out what Chris Hedges said about Governor Krispy Kreme in his latest Truthdig article.

Chrispy Christie has been a corporate lackey from almost day one, from his earlier days working as a lobbyist and with/for the banks/hedge funds.

Moral of the Hedges article - don't take Christie lightly. He's well-backed, and he's dangerous.

TBF

(32,047 posts)
82. He's old school conservative like Bush -
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 08:43 AM
Jan 2014

he presents as concerned about the almighty dollar but downplays the social issues. That is our grandfather's conservative party and I would agree with you that I don't see much difference at all between his policies and those of Jeb Bush. But he doesn't have the polished veneer. More outspoken, bullying, doesn't come across as smooth.

I agree that it makes him dangerous because moderates seem to like his spunk. But this bridgegate thing may be enough of a loose-cannon thing to pass him over.

But, yes, you've definitely got him pegged I think.

R Merm

(405 posts)
13. Christie is a loose cannon,
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 09:38 AM
Jan 2014

I wonder if repugs are concerned that there is no controlling his behavior. He has clearly shown how vindictive he is and that he will place his own interests ahead of the parties.

NJCher

(35,658 posts)
26. hah
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 10:13 AM
Jan 2014

He pretty much showed them that it's all about him when he gave the speech for Romney's nomination at the Republic convention and it was all about...him. Chris Christie.

And he was unapologetic about it.

His "I'm sorry" speech over Bridgegate was all about him and what a "sad" guy he is. It was, as a reporter said, his me-me-mea culpa.

Total narcissist.


Cher

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
42. Dude is a narcissist.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:25 AM
Jan 2014

It's all about him and how it affected him. Almost two hours of self pity. He was sad, he felt betrayed, they lied to him, blah, blah, blah.

TBF

(32,047 posts)
47. Yes! I think he and Ted Cruz were
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:34 AM
Jan 2014

cut from the same mold, despite the fact that Cruz is way more conservative. Both are egomaniacs.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
20. they don't believe they have NO ONE
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 09:54 AM
Jan 2014

Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Huckabee, Santorum. I am sure there are more.
In their eyes these folks could all kick ass because America is a right wing country and those are the folks that stand for what America believes (or so they believe)

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
75. You can knock Hucka-who(?) off the list. Even his fundie base doesn't want to vote for him.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 09:49 PM
Jan 2014

So that leaves the ragin' lunatics running.

I know we are up against the GOP & every major MSM outlet, including MSNBC but surely fact based reality wins out in the in. Even my sister, majorly apolitical, or well, she used to be and quipped some very funny jokes about the current political climate, so see - people do and are paying attention.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
30. I don't know why everybody keeps ignoring Jebbie
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 10:28 AM
Jan 2014

It seems to me he is the one the party bosses are most comfortable with.

They sure don't want Perry, Huckabee, Palin, Cruz or Rand Paul

They could play ball with Ryan, but he isn't electable. Likewise for Rubio. Both Ryan and Rubio are lightweights who just look good in a suit.

And then there is Jebbie. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he has ruled himself out. He is just as corruptible as Christie, but he is more reliable to his friends and backers, and probably a lot easier to get elected.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
54. Not gonna happen
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 12:09 PM
Jan 2014

Just gotta tie Jeb to W. Really easy to do since their brothers and all.

The base now hates W as insufficiently pure. Sane people hate W for utterly destroying the economy. "I'm not as stupid as my brother" isn't a way to undo that.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
57. Substitute "Bill" for "W" and "Hillary" for "Jeb" and you have EXACTLY the same argument
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 12:26 PM
Jan 2014

I don't think most people do automatically tie Jeb with W. Jeb is considered more thoughtful and considerably smarter than W.

There could be an argument that the nation is sick of bushes in general, but that applies equally to Clintons. I just don't think it is true in either case.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
59. People don't have to automatically tie them together.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 12:41 PM
Jan 2014

There will be a campaign, after all.

Jeb is considered more thoughtful and considerably smarter than W.

That's a little like saying he's smarter than an eggplant. Not really a positive since it's such a low hurdle to get over.

Substitute "Bill" for "W" and "Hillary" for "Jeb" and you have EXACTLY the same argument

Sure, except for the massive deficits, the terrible economy, and the two failed wars.

Hillary's tie to Bill is a positive - most people feel the 90's were pretty damn kick-ass, and the possibility of repeating them would be a good thing. (Yes, a lot of policies that started in the '90s are part of why things are crappy now, but they hadn't fucked things up yet in the 90s)

Jeb's tie to W is a negative - most people feel the 00's were fucking awful, and the possibility of repeating them would be a bad thing.

And that's just the "sane" part of the country. The rabid Republicans don't like W nor Jeb. W failed, and since their policies can never be wrong it must be W's fault. Jeb is "more liberal" than W, so he would be a worse choice in implementing their policies.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
66. NEVER underestimate Jeb
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 04:05 PM
Jan 2014

Poppy may be on his way out but Barbara is still kicking and she will do whatever it takes to get her favorite into the White House. And for those who are saying he's not conservative enough--he hasn't been branded for national consumption yet. Just you wait.

I think they were waiting to see what Hillary would do as she is formidable and can be conservative enough to counterpunch. The one thing he has going is the hatred for the Clintons and misogyny.

Ted Cruz can't run with the birther argument, Rand Paul is far too fey to win, Christie with his weight and now his scandal--it's the same clown car strategy they pulled last time. Guess what, lo and behold, Romney was the nominee. Who was surprised? The power structure of the Republican party despises the Tea Idiots, but uses them with impunity. Jeb is their man, one of them. Christie pulling out may have moved up his run as I didn't think he'd go up against Hillary. But the fact that he is laying so low in Mordor means he's arming himself.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
68. Barbara has already said "there have been enough Bushs in the white house" sounds like she put the
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 04:28 PM
Jan 2014

word out the Bush family wouldn't pull out all the stops for him. I wonder if the senior Bushs care enough about the country to not let another W happen. Also, I think they know that W was a figure head for the people who put the money behind his election. The same will happen with Jeb and I'm not sure the Bush seniors trust those folks.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
77. The reason everyone forgets about Jeb is because he is a snooze fest on camera.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 09:55 PM
Jan 2014

It was the reason we got his brother rather than him in 2000. Remember reading something about it way back when. He is a huge PR problem, along with GWB baggage. And yes, he'll have that baggage, because I personally will register with every blog, media site, whatever and remind them each and every day about GWB and Iraq Iraq Iraq. I can be relentless too.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
79. Don't underestimate him. And remember, the Party is only looking for
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 12:42 AM
Jan 2014

a figurehead.They already have their agenda, They just need to package up a public face. Jebbie is certainly no more droll than Mittens. And if Romney hadn't been so damned arrogant to do the 47% thing, we would be talking about President Romney right now.

Look, we need to face facts. While we may technically have a 5-10M advantage in voters that ought to be inclined to vote for us, most of them are too damned apathetic to vote. When they get out to the polls, that is the exception rather than the rule. With all the election rigging the GOP has put in place, they would have an excellent chance with Jeb.

Obama was a once-a-century sort of thing, and that guy has pissed away the whole idea of making meaningful changes. Right about now, "Change you can believe in " strikes most people as horse shit when you look at things like the TPP, the NSA, the drone program, the fact that the number of prosecuted banksters is still zero and so on. No progressive will be able to use progressive change as a campaign focus for a generation because Obama basically that into a bad joke.

I don't mean to be negative, but anybody who thinks the GOP power structure isn't serious and they aren't seriously looking at Jeb needs to pay a lot more attention. We accuse the RW as living in their own little bubble. Well look in the mirror. We have our own bubble too.

TBF

(32,047 posts)
48. That's what I'm talking about.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:35 AM
Jan 2014

They let Christie and Cruz bloviate around for awhile and then tossed them. I would be very surprised if Jeb is not the nominee.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
58. The fact that he is the one viable candidate nobody is talking about is telling
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 12:33 PM
Jan 2014

He is playing it cool. Nobody wins the election 3 years ahead of the voting. But a bunch of unknowns have to send up their trial balloons. The fact that Jeb is not saying anything, and has not taken his name off the table tells you where this stands.

He is letting the others eliminate themselves. And after that process is done, if he likes his chances, then he'll be the chosen one. He is infinitely easier to push through the primaries than Christie. And he is just waiting or Rand Paul, Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio, and Ted Cruz to wear out their welcome. He doesn't need to say or do anything for a year.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
63. Everything I have seen suggests that Far RWers consider Jeb as bad as Christie, ie a RINO.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 03:43 PM
Jan 2014

Believe me when I tell you, these folks are absolutely determined this time to nominate what they consider to be a 'real' conservative. I dont think folks outside of Rand Paul, Scott Walker and Ted Cruz need apply. Even Marco Rubio has screwed himself in their eyes with his back and forth on immigration and Paul Ryan is now suspect with the budget deal.

My money is on Cruz.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
67. Jeb will be highlighted...
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 04:12 PM
Jan 2014

as the "sane" choice juxtapositioned against the crazy of Cruz and Christie.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
81. But the thing is - all those uninteresting future also-rans still THINK they're worthy of
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:59 AM
Jan 2014

replacing him. MAN, do they ever flatter themselves! They live in the ultimate Bizarro World. They think they're the bee's knees! God's gift! The answer to everyone's prayers! Why else would a pathetic little weenie like rand paul presume he's presidential material, forcryingoutloud? Shit - my dog is better presidential material than he is! Hell, the rats my cats would be going after if they only could - are better presidential material than he is. At least they know they're vermin.

BumRushDaShow

(128,858 posts)
9. This actually started a couple months ago
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 09:28 AM
Jan 2014

in the Senate, from one of our favorites.


2 months ago
Rand Paul hits Chris Christie over post-Sandy tourism ads
Posted by
CNN's Dana Davidsen

<..>

In a Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing to review the federal response to last year's deadly storm, Paul questioned Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan about whether Sandy relief funds should be spent on television ads.

Paul said that “people running for office put their mug all over these ads while they are in the middle of a campaign. In New Jersey, $25 million was spent on ads that included somebody running for political office."

"Ya think there might be a conflict of interest there? You know that’s a real problem. That’s why when people who are trying to do good and trying to use taxpayer dollars wisely they are offended to see our money spent on political ads. You know that’s just offensive."

<..>

"New York did the same thing, which I still object, but at least they didn’t put someone’s face on the ad and their family, and it looks like a bio ad," Paul continued. "You know I think, yeah, come to New Jersey, but it’s like I don’t want to pay for ads for someone’s advertising out of Sandy relief funds. It gives the whole thing a black eye."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/11/06/rand-paul-hits-chris-christie-over-post-sandy-tourism-ads/

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
28. Ahhh. Kicking this back into the news at this time makes a lot of sense for those gunning for him.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 10:17 AM
Jan 2014

He needed to be hobbled before this kind of accusation could really hurt.

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
43. The day he slammed house Republicans for not sending Sandy relief money
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:29 AM
Jan 2014

was the beginning of his end. I even said to my husband...he'll be politically destroyed within a year.

I was right. I've seen it too many times.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
71. There's a lot of road between accusations and consequences.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 08:04 PM
Jan 2014

Let it begin indeed. Every trip is began with a single step.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
7. Holy Cow. I can't imagine how pissed I'd be
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 09:00 AM
Jan 2014

if I were a NJ resident who needed those funds only to find out that Christie was using them to elevate his national standing.

Zoonart

(11,849 posts)
10. Not to mention-
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 09:29 AM
Jan 2014

Mrs. Christie's Sandy Charity which has raised a purported 32 million dollars and has yet to pay out one red cent.


Christie and Sandy: Unanswered Questions
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/12/1269045/-Christie-and-Sandy-unanswered-questions

Trekologer

(997 posts)
18. I'm both embarrassed and angry that he was wearing a Rutgers shirt
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 09:47 AM
Jan 2014

Considering he was in favor of giving away one of the Rutgers' campuses as political payback and trying to exert more state control over the university.

factsarenotfair

(910 posts)
55. Yes! I'm sure that every grant from the Sandy Relief charity she manages required a quid pro quo.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 12:22 PM
Jan 2014

The Christies are quite a team!

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
12. They should investigate
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 09:36 AM
Jan 2014

if any corners were cut in the construction of the boardwalk destroyed by fire.

Report: Feds Investigating Christie's Use Of Hurricane Sandy Funds For Tourism Ads

Federal officials are looking into whether New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) improperly put Hurricane Sandy relief funds towards Jersey Shore tourism ads, CNN reported Monday.

Rep. Frank Pallone (D-NJ) told CNN that federal auditors are expected to examine the state's use of $25 million in Sandy relief funds to market the tourism campaign, which starred Christie and his family. Pallone asked the Department of Housing and Urban Development inspector general in August to look into how Christie spent the funds.

"This was money that could have directly been used for Sandy recovery," the New Jersey congressman told CNN. "And, as you know, many of my constituents still haven't gotten the money that is owed them to rebuild their homes or raise their homes or to help."

Pallone wrote in his letter to HUD that he was concerned about the bidding process for the ads, according to CNN. The winning bid for the marketing plan featuring Christie, he noted, cost $2 million more than the losing firm's proposal, which did not feature the governor and his family.

- more -

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/feds_investigating_christie_sandy_funds

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
14. Those funds were meant for tourism ads...
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 09:43 AM
Jan 2014

its standard with disaster relief in places where tourism is present. You know-the "Gulf is Open for Business" BP ads. The intent is to help local businesses recover. Christie's handlers saw this as a chance to burnish his image and get some free political advertising. Beyond that they saw it as an opportunity to steer funds to a politically connected advertising firm rather than the lowest qualified bidder. This might not be corruption in the sense of stealing funds, but it is corruption nonetheless.

Besides-these commercials are supposed to attract people to the Jersey shore. Christie's family sitting on the beach? Run away!

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
22. Yes They Can....
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 09:58 AM
Jan 2014

From the approved spending plan for Sandy relief money. Same was done in upstate NY/Vt after Irene

Finally, having received a waiver from HUD, the State proposes using $25,000,000 of CDBG-DR
funds for a tourism marketing campaign to inform tourists that much of the Jersey
Shore is open for business in 2013.


Link to Action Plan.

They were NOT meant for self-aggrandizing political commercials touting the Governor. They were meant to be spent wisely and efficiently-Not on a politically motivated, politically connected ad campaign.

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
25. No need to apologize...
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 10:07 AM
Jan 2014

It was a reasonable statement. Some of this stuff is so arcane you need to know where to look to have any chance of digging it out.

Cheviteau

(383 posts)
40. The Gulf Open For Business Ads
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:22 AM
Jan 2014

are part of a settlement agreed to by BP and the Federal government, and are not financed with taxpayer money. Put your thinking hat on before you type something. C'mon, do some research.

FourScore

(9,704 posts)
50. I'm not sure the veracity of the charges really matter at this point.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:37 AM
Jan 2014

I suspect there is total political annihilation going on here. Get as many scandals and probes and investigations and charges against him as possible so that he has no choice but to resign in utter disgrace. His political career is over. I'm sure he knows it.

I'm okay with that. The day I saw him yell at the school teacher was the day I was done with him.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
23. Looks like some possible nepotism.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 10:01 AM
Jan 2014

Last edited Mon Jan 13, 2014, 10:50 AM - Edit history (2)

Pallone wrote that he was concerned about the bidding process for the firm awarded the marketing plan; the winning firm is charging the state about $2 million more than the next lowest bidder. The winning $4.7 million bid featured Christie and his family in the advertisements while the losing $2.5 million proposal did not feature the Christies.


I'd be looking into who that firm donated to as well if I were investigating this.


From Rep. Frank Pallone's website.

Long Branch, NJ – Congressmen Frank Pallone, Jr. (NJ-06) today called for an investigation into the contract and bidding process used by Governor Chris Christie for the marketing campaign to promote the Jersey Shore and encourage tourism. While the Congressman supports the campaign, he questions whether Governor Christie took advantage of the federal funds for his personal political gain.

In a letter to the Inspector General of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, Pallone questions the Governor’s decision to award the contract to a bidder that cost the state $2.2 million more than a comparable firm’s proposal. These taxpayer-funded television ads feature the Governor and have been aired in New Jersey and surrounding states during his reelection cycle. However, the proposal from the less expensive firm that was not chosen during the bidding process did not propose featuring the Governor in the ads.

“The fact that this particular proposal was chosen despite an obvious conflict of interest, in addition to the higher costs, raises serious concerns with the entire process. I fought hard for passage of the Sandy aid package in Congress by assuring our colleagues that this funding was critical to our recovery and that it would be spent responsibly without waste, fraud and abuse,” wrote Pallone in the letter.

Had Governor Christie chosen the less expensive firm, $2.2 million in federal disaster aid could have potentially been directed elsewhere, for example, to provide 44 Sandy impacted homeowners $50,000 grants to raise their homes.

http://pallone.house.gov/press-release/pallone-calls-investigation-christie%E2%80%99s-misuse-disaster-aid-political-gain


The full text of the letter available at the above link.
 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
29. Not that I'm surprise of this but I have a question
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 10:17 AM
Jan 2014

Why the fuck didn't all this come out when he was running for reelection.Did they sit on this story before the election

BumRushDaShow

(128,858 posts)
36. It did come out
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:01 AM
Jan 2014

as far back as May (before Memorial Day) -

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/05/christie_films_psa_for_nj.html
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/christie-stars-in-nj-tourism-ads-dems-cry-foul/
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/Chrisite-Talks-Clean-Beaches-Water-Post-Sandy-in-Wildwood-221321751.html

And then nearing the close of the summer season -

http://www.mediaite.com/online/home-state-paper-attacks-chris-christie-over-self-promotional-stronger-than-the-storm-ad-campaign/
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/Chrisite-Talks-Clean-Beaches-Water-Post-Sandy-in-Wildwood-221321751.html

And the day after his election in hearings -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/11/06/rand-paul-knocks-chris-christie-for-hurricane-sandy-tv-ads/

Even Sludge took a jab (if you are brave enough to click the link) - http://www.drudge.com/news/173726/rand-paul-takes-break-plagiarizing

To save time, the article headline for Sludge was - worthy itself. (I forgot that plagiarize-gate was going on around election time)

Rand Paul Takes Break From Plagiarizing To Slam Christie

Sen. Rand Paul took a jab at Gov. Chris Christie Wednesday, saying it was "offensive" that the governor appeared in New Jersey's "Stronger Than The Storm" TV spots while campaigning for office.

The ads, which featured Christie and his family and were funded with federal disaster relief money, promoted tourism along the Jersey shore in the wake of Superstorm Sandy and ran on TV, radio and online.

Speaking at a Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing reviewing the ongoing recovery from Sandy, Paul, R-Kentucky, questioned whether storm relief funds should have been spent on the ads.

"Some of these ads, people running for office put their mug all over these ads while they are in the middle of a political campaign," Paul said. "In New Jersey, $25 million was spent on ads that included somebody running for political office."


madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
31. This is what happens when an arrogant man surrounds himself with arrogant advisors.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 10:31 AM
Jan 2014

This is kind of thing is amateur hour.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
32. Christie Allegedly Diverted Millions In Hurricane Sandy Relief Funds To Pay For TV Ads Starring Hims
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 10:36 AM
Jan 2014
Christie Allegedly Diverted Millions In Hurricane Sandy Relief Funds To Pay For TV Ads Starring Himself

By Igor Volsky

The Office of the Inspector General at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) has opened a federal investigation into whether New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) improperly used Hurricane Sandy relief funds to produce commercials starring himself and his family ahead of his re-election campaign. Auditors will examine how the Christie administration used $25 million set aside for “a marketing campaign to promote the Jersey Shore and encourage tourism,” focusing on the bidding process to award a $4.7 million to a politically connected firm that cast Christie and his family in the Sandy ads, while “a comparable firm proposed billing the state $2.5 million for similar work” but did not include Christie in the commercials.

The ads produced by the company, MWW, attracted significant criticism. The New Jersey Star Ledger accused Christie of siphoning off “money that was intended for victims of Sandy to promote himself in a series of TV ads,” and described the move as “offensive” and a ” new low.” Watch the ad here:

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Here are 6 things you need to know about the investigation:

1. Congress raised alarms about the ads in August. In August, Rep. Frank Pallone (D-NJ) alerted the Inspector General for the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development that the Christie administration may have “irresponsibly misappropriated funding allocated by Congress from the Sandy aid package” and used funds set aside for promoting the state “for political purposes.” “[T]he contract was awarded to a firm that is charging over $2 million more than the next lowest bidder to develop the marketing plan,” Pallone wrote, noting that “the winning bid proposed including Governor Chris Christie in the advertisements, while the lower cost proposal that was not selected did not.” “It is inappropriate for taxpayer-funded dollars that are critical to our state’s recovery from this natural disaster to fund commercials that could potentially benefit a political campaign.”

2. Conservatives questioned Christie’s staring role. In November, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) said Christie’s appearance in the television ads gave the recovery effort a “black eye.” “People running for office put their mug all over these ads while they were in the middle of a political campaign,” Paul said during a committee hearing. “In New Jersey, $25 million was spent on ads that included somebody running for political office. You think there might be a conflict of interest there? That’s a real problem and that’s why when people who are trying to do good and trying to use taxpayers’ money wisely, they’re offended to see our money spent on political ads. That’s just offensive.”

- more -

http://thinkprogress.org/home/2014/01/13/3152271/6-need-know-federal-investigation-chris-christies-sandy-relief-funds/

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
37. Divert is the Wrong Word....
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:04 AM
Jan 2014

$25 million was authorized for an ad campaign from the Sandy funds. It wasn't that the money was used on ads. It was that it was misused for his own personal advantage and directed to a politically connected media relations firm over otherwise qualified lower bidders. That's where the corruption is.

NJCher

(35,658 posts)
33. speaking as a former advertising manager
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 10:47 AM
Jan 2014

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For numerous Fortune 500 companies, when I saw/heard the NJ shore ads, I thought they were the hokiest, most amateur ads I'd seen in a long time.

Like since 10" before, when I'd seen a local car dealer ad.

Specifically what I have against them is the "stronger than the storm" jingle. Not only is it something an amateur musical composer could come up with, it offers NO BENEFIT to the consumer.

That's what it's all about: a benefit to the consumer.

Give the customer a reason: "Why should I go to the shore for my vacation as opposed to ___, ___, and ____?"

Now, you tell me, what benefit is it to tell potential vacationers that NJ is stronger than the storm? Stupid, just totally stupid campaign.

Oh and so nice that we taxpayers spent $2 million more just for the feature of seeing Christie and his family on the shore. This is just like the hokey local ads that feature the car dealer. They're ads that appeal to the advertiser's big ego.

NJ is a heavily populated state with a wide range of talent--singers, writers, media producers, advertising and creative people. With Chris Christie, though, the only talent needed is that of the sycophant.


Cher

Laxman

(2,419 posts)
35. I thought they were very professional!
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:00 AM
Jan 2014


Why I'm still humming Stronger than the Storm in the shower!

As I said before, Christie's family on the beach wasn't going to attract anyone to the shore.

BumRushDaShow

(128,858 posts)
46. Imagine living in the media market for South Jersey
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:34 AM
Jan 2014


That ad played on every Philly TV station and major radio stations.

The fact that we're still humming it means that the jingle "stuck" like an ear worm.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
34. all the while punishing the mayor of Hoboken for withholding her endorsement for him...
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 10:48 AM
Jan 2014

things are shaping up badly for CC in short bursts...keep it coming!

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
45. This is nothing new to those who paid attention.
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 11:33 AM
Jan 2014

I'm just glad that the Feds have finally chosen to launch a probe.

This is from last May:

"The six ads are part of a television and radio roll out that includes a digital campaign, billboards in high-profile spots like Times Square and the entrance of the Lincoln Tunnel, as well as an official roll out May 24, the Friday before Memorial Day weekend. The kick off is a five mile ribbon cutting that spans across Seaside Heights, around the businesses and down the shore. Simultaneously, other parts of the shore will hold similar ribbon cuttings. They believe it will break the Guinness World Record for ribbon cutting.

According to Shannon Eis of MWW, the firm that won the bid to make the ads, they will run in New Jersey, New York, Philadelphia, and other parts of Pennsylvania as the primary push. The secondary markets are Baltimore, Washington, D.C., Pittsburgh, upstate New York, and eastern Canada. The ads provide Christie extra face time in the pricey New York and Philadelphia markets through July, the markets that New Jersey residents are included in. They will run in a scaled-back schedule the rest of the summer in August and September.

The campaign of Christie’s gubernatorial opponent Democratic state Sen. Barbara Buono say these are just campaign ads charged to the taxpayer. In a statement Buono said “the hard-working and resilient people who have rebuilt their businesses and homes after Sandy should have been the star of these ads.”

“That Gov. Christie would allow $25 million in federally-funded ads to feature him in the middle of an election year is both supremely arrogant and wildly inappropriate,” Buono said.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/christie-stars-in-nj-tourism-ads-dems-cry-foul/

Christie went with an agency that charged $2M more than the next bidder because that agency offered to feature him and his family in the ads. He wanted the free publicity as he geared toward his reelection campaign.



questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
61. gotta wonder what took them so long
Mon Jan 13, 2014, 02:28 PM
Jan 2014
http://www.bradblog.com/?page_id=10334

as a side note that link is all about christie sneaking off to the koch conference in 2011...in case you hadn't seen it

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