Libertarians think Fiction is Reality.
http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2014/01/13/libertarians-think-fiction-is-reality/"300,000 people in West Virginia can’t use their tap water for anything but flushing their crap down the dumper because an unregulated toxic chemical facility just upstream from Charleston’s water supply sprang a leak: it’s so bad, people in 6 counties can’t bathe, wash their clothes, cook, clean, and such. Sensible people asked for some regulations, but the Libertarians blocked them, because the “free market” would magically make the tank farm’s operator do everything necessary to make the place safe and squeaky-clean. Of course, that turned out not to be the case.
Last year, a town in Texas suffered a devastating and deadly explosion because a barely-regulated fertilizer plant blew up. This being Texas, only a few sensible people argued for regulations, and the Libertarians blocked them too, because the “free market” is a peachy and perfect way to ensure safety and cleanliness in industry. In fact, the libertarians are STILL blocking new regulations even after that blast, so that town (or another) could blow up again at any moment.
Time after time, this silly-arsed idea that businesses are somehow innately good and will always do the right thing when left to their own devices has been proven false. And yet its adherents (who run the gamut from prog-rockers Rush to industrialists like the Koch Brothers) still insist that it is true, that we just need to get rid of even more government and then it’ll work, honest, really, pinky-swear. That’s like a compulsive gambler telling you that if he just had more money to bet, he’d be on Easy Street.
This ideology does not work in real life. Smart people who live in the real world and have read Adam Smith know that a regulated free market is what works best. But because a czarist Russian exile had an understandably huge hate-on for Commies and wrote a few novels, somehow a lot of otherwise sane and intelligent individuals decided that a whole philosophy should be based on those novels; and indeed, a new economic theory be created out of the whole cloth and immediately declared valid, based largely on those novels. Fiction, to libertarians, is reality.
And that, friends, pretty well sums up Libertarianism: if is a theory, based on fiction, that has no basis in reality. People have been trying for decades to make it real, to make it work, to take it from marionette status and turn into a real boy. All that has been realized from their efforts is that Libertarians have grown a very large set of donkey ears as their Ayn Rand-based Pleasure Island has gone morally, intellectually, and financially bankrupt.
Libertarianism has failed. It is dead. Stop trying to make the corpse move; bury it and try something based in the real world next time. "
Source material at the link.
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You're thinking about the Centrists "negotiating" with fanatic conservatives,
and then agreeing to meet them half way in a Kumbaya spirit of "Bi-Partisan Consensus".
I don't know of any "Liberals" who have signed on to THAT bullshit.
Perhaps you can name a few.
[font color=firebrick][center]"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will STAND UP for Working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone [/font][/center] [center]
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Is the way they view the court system.
Challenge THAT and they act like you are an unenlightened fool or a heretic.
But she glossed over all that, and her delusional followers act as if it isn't true.
Galt's Gulch is REAL.
Galt's Gulch is REAL
and we are Waiting for YOU!!![/font]
Please sell everything, pack up, and move to Galt's Gulch,
where your FREEDOM to do whatever the fuck you want is protected.
Start TODAY!
http://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2013/5/27/ayn-rands-vision-of-galts-gulch-has-become-reality-as-of-tod.html
Can't wait to see how THIS works out!
[font size=4]Bvar's High Level Nuclear Waste FREEDOM Repository & Disposal Plant[/font]
...and have my FREEDOM from all those Government Regulations on my back getting in the way of all us Free Enterprising visionaries!
I'll start my first "disposal" pit just uphill from this guy's house,
and in the evenings, we can get together and celebrate our FREEDOMS
and the sanctity of PRIVATE Enterprise and NO TAXES and burdensome Government Regulations to pull us down into the bog with all the defective, whiny assed common people who only want to Free Ride on MY work and take away MY Freedoms !!!!
The Jungle is a 1906 book written by the American journalist and novelist Upton Sinclair 1878–1968).[1] Sinclair wrote the novel to portray the lives of immigrants in the United States in Chicago and similar industrialized cities.
Many readers were most concerned with his exposure of health violations and unsanitary practices in the American meatpacking industry during the early 20th century, based on an investigation he did for a socialist newspaper.
The book depicts working class poverty, the absence of social programs, harsh and unpleasant living and working conditions, and a hopelessness among many workers. These elements are contrasted with the deeply rooted corruption of people in power. A review by the writer Jack London called it, "the Uncle Tom's Cabin of wage slavery."[2]
Sinclair was considered a muckraker, or journalist who exposed corruption in government and business.[3] He first published the novel in serial form in 1905 in the socialist newspaper, Appeal to Reason, between February 25, 1905, and November 4, 1905. In 1904, Sinclair had spent seven weeks gathering information while working incognito in the meatpacking plants of the Chicago stockyards for the newspaper. It was published as a book on 26 February 1906 by Doubleday and in a subscribers' edition.[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jungle
There are more favorable reviews of the book in searches, but this one shows better the mindset that we as Democrats are up against. Because he was a socialist and the book was sensationalist, it didn't go over well, but inspired public support in terms of regulation for health safety, but only for those able to buy products, not out of much concern for the then unpopular emigrants - the same attitude prevailed in worse form during the legalized practice of black slavery. The poor of any kind are demonized just like blacks and immigrants under the banner of not being white or 'real Americans.'
In those days, libertarian capitalism ruled and libertarians long for its return so much they are legislating it state by state with ALEC. That pre-progressive ere placed them well above the teeming masses, and they are all would be plutocrats.
Back then, just as now, the arrogant philosophers of libertarianism see workers deserving such condtions. They are, after all, 'parasites' and 'consumers,' not the 'job creators' and 'producers' in their world view. They are of less moral value than the animals in the slaughter houses.
Anything goes to get back to the 'natural order' of things, of the rich bleeding those less advantaged to death, and if government gets in the way of the producers, it is immoral, statist and tyrannical. That's why they hate and villify government and its supporters so much. They've done a great job in making those who support rightful actions by government unpopular. So people are subconsiously nervous about discussing, asking for or supporting any 'government program'
Libertartian leaders know full well those regulations are not working, as they vote against it day by day to make government less popular. They have brainwashed the masses into thinking all taxes, for the rich or poor, are immoral and against God, liberty, freedom or survival.
Cutting back on the number of government employees or leaving responsibility for regulation in the hands of the private sector, which is their way of governing, never leaves the ability to regulate. It becomes ineffective as the social safety net that keeps millions fed, off the street and healthy must come first, and they know that.
But they want that eliminated to keep people down to lower labor costs and thus enrich themselves.
Their system is a closed circle.
JMHO.
My thought is that after the fertilizer hits the windmill, our position in the global marketplace will be lessened, and thir ability to continue expanding their fortunes will be trashed.
Fomenting a revolution in the most heavily armed populace in history? Shit's gonna get broken. Infrastructure in rubble. How will they deal with their paper fortunes then?
I think they do WANT it to go as you describe. But they are likely to wind up rudely awakened.
Just my cynical, embittered pennies. 
I haven't paid much attention to them for some years now (one exception was "Time Stand Still"
, so I hadn't heard this. Thanks!
all the way.
She was a novel lover. 
Rimshot 
thank you. The truth will set some free, others will continue to vote against their best interest, turn a blind eye or shut off their reasoning capability to understand the truth of your words. Libertarians are not patriots, just like their tea party comrades. Or are they one in the same? Sometimes I get so confused.
