Indiana House chamber bursts into laughter after speaker calls LGBT people ‘intolerant’

[Katashi_itto]

(Background Note: Jim Bopp is one of the legal advisors of the Citizens United SCOTUS case. A very dangerous individual, that should not be discounted)

Those attending the Indiana House Judiciary Committee’s hearing on a same sex marriage ban erupted into laughter on Monday when one of the speakers claimed that opponents of the ban were “intolerant.”

Jim Bopp, an anti-LGBT attorney who was forced out as Indiana’s representative to the Republican National Committee in 2012, told the committee that he was perplexed as to why opponents would be against a constitutional ban if same sex marriage was already illegal in Indiana.

“It can only be because [the existing ban is] vulnerable,” he insisted. “They want the option of getting what they actually want, which is to change the definition marriage. And the very vulnerability of a statute as opposed to a constitutional amendment affords them a greater opportunity to get that job done.”


“Even more troubling though was an argument made by one who said that the simple debate on the marriage amendment will do the damage,” Bopp added. “Well, what does that tell you? That there are some people that are so intolerant of other people’s views that a simple debate…”

With that, the chairman was forced to call the committee to order as the gallery burst into laughter.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/13/indiana-house-chamber-bursts-into-laughter-after-speaker-calls-lgbt-people-intolerant/

[LuvNewcastle]

1. All you people who want your civil rights are just intolerant.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

20. These people are really good at spinning things around

to make themselves seem like "victims" It really just irritates me to no end how they do this- and people still take them seriously.

[NuclearDem]

2. HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Bluenorthwest]

3. Bopp is another anti gay and very anti choice crusader, much like Francis.

Bopp is a lawyer so he rarely indulges in the demonological language Francis favors, so less crap about gay people being an 'Attack on God' but the exact same message.
In his native Argentina, Francis was a driving force on the anti equality side, just as Bopp is in Indiana. He wailed and wept and called gay rights a product of 'the Father of Lies' and all sorts of Medieval bullshit.
Of the two, Francis' influence is more pernicious, more widespread and harsher in tone. They are both anti gay and anti choice crusaders. One in a suit, the other in vestments and frocks and whatnot. But the same bigotries and the same political goals.

At least people laugh at Bopp, too many cheer for Francis who says and does the same and worse.

[Katashi_itto]

4. All posts lead to Francis right?

[Arkana]

8. Did I miss something? When did this thread become about Pope Francis?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

10. He has a point.

[Gothmog]

5. These idiots are really clueless

They believe that the have the right to be bigots

[tclambert]

9. It's in the Constitution or something . . .

"The right of the people to be stupid cannot be infringed."

[gtar100]

13. They do have the right to be bigots. And we have the right to call them on it and not put up with

their hateful, divisive behavior. They've always assumed they had the cornerstone to morality and could dictate community standards to the rest of us. But it's become clear through the evidence of the injuries caused to gay people by their hatred and bigotry that it is they who are the moral degenerates and thank goodness more and more people are recognizing it. This is a battle for community standards and finally the ugliness of their prejudices is becoming clear to enough people that they are no longer spewing their hatred unopposed. It is really a welcome breath of fresh air.

[pangaia]

14. Unfortunately, they do have a right to be bigots.

Doesn't mean we can't lock them in a closet.

[NYC Liberal]

15. Their "rights" always involve being able

to tell OTHER people what to do and not to do.

[HughBeaumont]

6. We laugh, but take a gander at this thread . . .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002418490

Come on, we should RESPECT the views of the hate-filled.

[LisaLynne]

7. Laughter can be powerful.

I wonder if these people were more often not "preaching to the choir" if they wouldn't get more of a sense that the majority of the people think they are idiots.

[Shandris]

16. In Indiana?

It (mostly) depends on what region you're in. In Bloomington he might well by tarred and feathered (Indiana's #1 LGBT-embracing city) or in a very small section of Indianapolis. In southern Indiana he'd be given quarter and shelter and probably a handful of guns on demand to 'git rid o them God-hatin ho-mo-sek-shulz'. I would have said the same about Central Indiana, but it seems there may be a small shift in opinion happening (referencing an article from yesterday about a church community ready to split for the firing of a gay choir director) that bodes well for the future. Indianapolis proper is a coin toss. In Northern Indiana, you're most likely to get some approval because proximity to Chicago, although that's not as much a guarantee as one might think it would be. But outside of Bloomington, its where I'd turn.

But right now, with this gay marriage constitutional ban thing that we're so busy fighting off, its hard to think that they're merely preaching to the choir. I wish it were so, but around here tradition matters. We don't even have anti-gender identity laws for discrimination yet.

[LisaLynne]

17. I'm in Indiana. Been here most of my life.

So, I do sort of know what I'm talking about.

[Shandris]

18. Well that makes two of us.

What part do you live in? Because the 'majority' here in north-central indiana, at best, support in name alone so long as it requires no effort. Even the polls are divided, sometimes swinging one way and sometimes another (although the one in November was heavily against us at 62%).

In the end, neither you nor I have a lock on what the majority actually believes because there's no way to poll every single living person in the state and without that, its too close to call (and certainly can't differentiate between NIMBY supporters and true ones). If your perception is different from mine, great. Glad you live in a better area than I do.

[NuclearDem]

19. I think I know exactly which section of Indy you're talking about.

And it's probably Broadripple.

[Shandris]

22. Absolutely!

When I lived in Indy for a couple years, I tried -so hard- to get a house there but no, it was just too expensive. Such a lovely area. I hadn't ever seen anything like it before, it was a life-changing experience to me.

[tclambert]

11. Bigots--the new oppressed minority.

[sarge43]

12. Say something stupid; get laughed at. QED. n/t

[SidDithers]

21. +1...

happens at DU a lot too.

Sid