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Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 09:17 PM Jan 2014

Drinking Alcohol Doesn't Actually Kill Brain Cells


Myth: Alcohol kills brain cells. Now, to qualify that title, pure alcohol will absolutely kill brain cells and many other types of cells, which is why it is used as a disinfectant. However, recent research has shown that the quantity of alcohol you could possibly take in, without killing yourself, does not introduce enough alcohol into your bloodstream to kill brain cells. This was proven by a study by Grethe Jensen and co. (1993), who meticulously counted neurons in matched samples of non-alcoholics and alcoholics. What they found was that there was no real difference in the density or overall number of neurons between the two groups.

Various other research since has backed up Jensen's findings. Thus, even alcoholics who are continually taking in unhealthy amounts of alcohol aren't going to see brain cells die because of their drinking problem. However, alcohol does have other effects on the brain, both positive and negative, that have nothing to do with brain cells dying.

First, the positive: drinking moderate amounts of alcohol on a regular basis has been shown to have various positive effects on your body. The one that pertains to this article's topic is that it has been shown to help protect people from cognitive impairment as they age. According to a study done at the Catholic University of the Sacred Heart, in Italy, 29% of people 65 years or older who almost never drank alcohol throughout their life had mental impairment issues. On the flip-side of that, only about 19% of people 65 years or older who drank moderate amounts of alcohol regularly had any mental impairment.

It was further discovered that, among the various groups where other problems, such as health problems or the like, might impair them mentally, the same trend appeared. In every group, those who drank moderately on a regular basis throughout their lives always had a diminished chance of becoming mentally impaired in their old age compared to those who didn't drink at all or almost never drank.

http://gizmodo.com/drinking-alcohol-doesnt-actually-kill-brain-cells-1498785941



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Drinking Alcohol Doesn't Actually Kill Brain Cells (Original Post) Nye Bevan Jan 2014 OP
I knew that. PeteSelman Jan 2014 #1
Shanks, ith so nicey to know sthat! El Supremo Jan 2014 #2
wasn't this the excuse we always used for Bush JI7 Jan 2014 #3
I suspect this has to do with learning to deal with chemically induced impairment Fumesucker Jan 2014 #4
I'll drink to that Major Nikon Jan 2014 #5
Wet Brain is caused by lack of B vitamins AgingAmerican Jan 2014 #6
Since some of the greatest writers in the world indulged in great quantities of alcohol, scarletwoman Jan 2014 #7
Gizmodo.com? loyalsister Jan 2014 #8
Those syndromes are covered later in the article. Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #10
I read the article loyalsister Jan 2014 #12
Well, I s'pose it must be something else that's killin' 'em then. Zorra Jan 2014 #9
Announcing the new Jim Beam... defacto7 Jan 2014 #11
"Oh Lisa, you and your stories. Bart is a vampire. Beer kills brain cells. " Initech Jan 2014 #13

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
1. I knew that.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 09:20 PM
Jan 2014

I know a lot of drunks. None of them seem to have gotten dumber over the years. The same way weed heads don't get "burnt".

The people the were dumb before are still dumb and the people that were always smart stay smart.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
4. I suspect this has to do with learning to deal with chemically induced impairment
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 09:57 PM
Jan 2014

We train our brains to work under suboptimal conditions so when they become naturally suboptimal through the aging process we can better deal with it.

As Robin Williams says, the first purpose of alcohol is to make English your second goddamn language.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
6. Wet Brain is caused by lack of B vitamins
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 10:03 PM
Jan 2014

Alcohol interferes with vitamin uptake. Over long periods of time, lack of B vitamins causes brain damage in severe alcoholics.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
7. Since some of the greatest writers in the world indulged in great quantities of alcohol,
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 10:08 PM
Jan 2014

this makes sense, imho.

But what do I know - I'm drinking...

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
8. Gizmodo.com?
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 10:08 PM
Jan 2014

The idiocy here is that the mythology stems from the mythology that any brain damage is brain cell death. Korsakoff's Syndrome and Wernicke's disease are both results of vitamin deficiency caused by long term drinking.
These articles remind me of a guy from Inbev who is at the MO state capitol every single day to block anything (including medical MJ) that the liquor industry fears will interfere with their profits. I'm already hearing them quoted by individuals who are anxious to legitimize their damaging behavior. One person who has a history of alcoholic pancreatitis backed up his decision to start drinking again by referencing the study minimizing the affects of alcohol on pregnant women.

Why is it that so many people feel threatened by the possibility of widespread recognition that alcoholism is a serious problem in this country?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
10. Those syndromes are covered later in the article.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 10:24 PM
Jan 2014

And I don't think anyone is denying that alcoholism is a serious problem.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
12. I read the article
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:12 PM
Jan 2014

They mention those disorders in passing and claim...

"drinking moderate amounts of alcohol on a regular basis has been shown to have various positive effects on your body. The one that pertains to this article's topic is that it has been shown to help protect people from cognitive impairment as they age."

I pointed out that the fallacy was actually in the assumption that brain cell death is the cause of all neurological disorders. The article suggests that the negative effects have potential to increase production of brain cells.

The first time I saw such information used as an excuse was 30+ yrs ago when my very ill, alcoholic grandmother cited research regarding health benefits of red wine.

Initech

(100,038 posts)
13. "Oh Lisa, you and your stories. Bart is a vampire. Beer kills brain cells. "
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 11:22 PM
Jan 2014

"Now let's go back to that building.... thingy... where our beds and TV... is." - Homer Simpson.

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