*Rachel just did a brief segment on WV chemical spill,

[elleng]

including diagram of the river system. The crap is now in OHIO, and she showed boner saying 'we have plenty regulations.'
"Watch this spot."

[Samantha]

1. A 60-mile chemical plume is winding its way toward Ohio and will impact Indiana and Kentucky

The major of Cincinnati is making plans to shut down the water supply for 48 hours.

Holy Moly. Thus, it begins.

Sam

[riversedge]

2. Bone man blamed it on Pres Obama saying the plant should have

been inspected. Yes he did. But, VW does not require inspections of plants who store chemicals. Bone man is stupid. Dems should be all shows calling him out on his stupidity!

[okaawhatever]

6. How about calling him out on the fact that prior to the EPA the Cuyahoga river caught fire several

times, and was sort of the straw that broke the camel's back regarding environmental protection. The Cuyahoga river is in his district. It not only was the tipping point for the creating of the EPA, it was another example of a bunch of corporations that came to that area, made a bunch of money, pulled out and left the taxpayers with hundreds of millions in clean up. Suck on that Boehner.

[niyad]

7. cuyahog river-kristin lems

Cuyahoga River by Kristin Lems

Kristin's timeless, poignant classic about the catching fire of Cleveland's beautiful Cuyahoga River, in 1970, from pollution. Like Randy Newman's song on th...

I've lived upon this river shore since I was very small
I've watched the seasons turning and I've watched the trees grow tall
I've seen the factories coming, they cluster on the shore
They dump their waste into our lake, and every day there's more
Chorus:
Oh lovely waters that have carried my canoe
Cuyahoga River, what have they done to you?
Once we would go fishing in rowboats every dawn
Now all we see is tanker ships, and all the fish are gone
We could see trout swimming full twenty feet below
But now the water's turned to ink no matter where we row
Our river it was clean and clear, we'd swim there everyday
Now it's far too dangerous, a fence keeps us away
The sun upon the water shone sparkling and royal
But now we see a rainbow from reflections in the oil
Late last Friday I drove home, smelled fire in the air
Couldn't tell the origin, the smoke was everywhere
A sheet of flame rose through the clouds, it cut them like a knife
I saw the river up in flame and giving up it's life
Now the ashes settle on a charred and cindered lake
Staying by this shoreline is a terrible mistake
But the Cuyahoga's seen me grow, and now I've seen it die
Figure I'll stay by it, though I cannot tell you why
Words and music by Kristin Lems c MCMLXXXIII Kleine Ding Music (BMI

http://nlyrics.com/Kristin_Lems/Cuyahoga_River_Lyrics

[elleng]

9. Nice idea, but Cuyahoga River is NE Ohio,

and Cleveland's the city of the river fire.

http://clevelandhistorical.org/items/show/63

Boner's district is near Springfield and Dayton, closer to the Ohio River.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/OH/8

[okaawhatever]

10. Thanks for that. For some reason I looked up Cuyahoga County this year and somewhere i read that

was Boehner's district.

[riversedge]

11. horrible. I did not know that.

[okaawhatever]

12. Most people don't know how bad it was before the EPA. I was a kid in Southern California and

remember not being able to go outside to play some days because of the smog alerts. People born after 1980 have no idea how nasty this country was getting, nor how much money it cost all of us taxpayers to clean it all up. I wonder what the total costs have been? We had to have "Super Funds" to clean up toxic sites and other environmental hazards. I don't know if you're that young, maybe you lived through it as well, I'm just putting this out there for any young readers who might happen onto it.

[dsc]

3. to be technical it isn't in Ohio as the Ohio river isn't in Ohio

but it still sucks.

[elleng]

4. The Ohio River separates Ohio and Kentucky,

so it probably is partially in both states.

Cinti mayor apparently thinks it is!!!

[Staph]

5. I'm not sure how it is set up between Ohio and Kentucky,

But the West Virginia/Ohio border is the low water mark on the Ohio side of the river -- in other words, the river belongs to us Mountaineers!

[elleng]

8. Dunno about OH and KY either, Staph,

but Cinti airport is IN KY! (Covington.)

"The agreement today gives Ohio and Indiana control of the river for a minimum of 100 feet from the present shoreline, and more than 500 feet in some places.

''It is the desire of Kentucky to live in harmony with its neighboring states,'' Kentucky's attorney, Donald Balleisen, told Judge Robert Van Pelt of Lincoln, Neb., the special master assigned to the case by the United States Supreme Court.

The agreement ends 15 years of litigation between Ohio and Kentucky. Kentucky also sued Indiana over the boundary in 1978. The pact re-establishes the state boundaries as they were in 1792. Court Rules on Boundary

The United States Supreme Court ruled in January 1980 that the boundary should be the low-water mark on the Ohio and Indiana shore as it was when Kentucky became a state nearly two centuries ago.

But the High Court left determination of that line to the states. Michael Szolosi, the attorney representing Ohio at the hearing, called the agreement ''an historic event.'' In 1966, Ohio officials estimated that the state lost $600,000 in revenue to Kentucky because it could not license river activities. Indiana officials said today that the agreement could mean several million dollars in tax revenue for their state. . .

The new lines could be drawn by early 1982 and submitted to the states for approval and to the special master for his final recommendation, he said."

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/10/21/us/kentucky-indiana-and-ohio-end-river-boundary-dispute.html

[dsc]

13. actually no

by treaty, or northwest ordinance, can't recall which, Ohio had to cede all rights to the Ohio river to (at the time) Virginia and Kentucky, Ohio doesn't own an inch of that river. I would assume Cincy pays Kentucky for the right to pump water from the river.

[elleng]

14. Actually,

"The agreement today gives Ohio and Indiana control of the river for a minimum of 100 feet from the present shoreline, and more than 500 feet in some places.

''It is the desire of Kentucky to live in harmony with its neighboring states,'' Kentucky's attorney, Donald Balleisen, told Judge Robert Van Pelt of Lincoln, Neb., the special master assigned to the case by the United States Supreme Court.

The agreement ends 15 years of litigation between Ohio and Kentucky. Kentucky also sued Indiana over the boundary in 1978. The pact re-establishes the state boundaries as they were in 1792. Court Rules on Boundary

The United States Supreme Court ruled in January 1980 that the boundary should be the low-water mark on the Ohio and Indiana shore as it was when Kentucky became a state nearly two centuries ago.

But the High Court left determination of that line to the states. Michael Szolosi, the attorney representing Ohio at the hearing, called the agreement ''an historic event.'' In 1966, Ohio officials estimated that the state lost $600,000 in revenue to Kentucky because it could not license river activities. Indiana officials said today that the agreement could mean several million dollars in tax revenue for their state. . .

The new lines could be drawn by early 1982 and submitted to the states for approval and to the special master for his final recommendation, he said."

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/10/21/us/kentucky-indiana-and-ohio-end-river-boundary-dispute.html

[Aerows]

15. Is anyone surprised that they are a distributor for ...

Koch Industries? I'm not.

Freedom Industries was founded in 1992 by Gary Southern, and Carl L. Kennedy II.[1][2] On December 31, 2013, Freedom Industries merged with three other companies, Etowah River Terminal, Poca Blending, and Crete Technologies.[1][2] Southern remains as president of the newly formed company.[1] The company distributes chemicals used in coal mining[1] and is a distributor for Georgia-Pacific.[3] Georgia-Pacific is in turn owned by Koch Industries.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Elk_River_chemical_spill