What's worse: texting during movie previews or shooting somebody dead for texting during previews?

[MoonRiver]

Inquiring minds want to know.

Edit: If you choose Other please explain.

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	Texting during movie previews
	0 (0%)
	Shooting someone, who is texting during movie previews, dead.
	4 (80%)
	Other.
	1 (20%)
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[enlightenment]

1. Other - flamebait on DU. nt

[HERVEPA]

10. Ditto

[ScreamingMeemie]

31. +1

[onehandle]

2. Shooting someone, who is texting during movie previews, dead, using SYG as a defense. nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

3. I'm wondering why "Idiotic Poll Questions" isn't an option. n/t

[MoonRiver]

4. If you had been reading all the threads on this subject you would get it. n/t

[boston bean]

5. did you happen to read the threads about this on DU. It was embarassing for a progressive website.

[cherokeeprogressive]

6. No I didn't.

A sick and twisted bad apple did a horrible thing. I don't see what there is to argue about. So, those threads are of no interest to me.

I don't see where this poll does anything but pour gas on the flames though.

[MoonRiver]

7. They may not be of any interest to you,

but some, in particular one, DUer, is trying to justify this killing.

[OnyxCollie]

14. Really? Whom?

Inquiring minds want to know.

One DUer, in particular, is using demagoguery, straw man arguments, and hyperbole to lynch in retribution.

[IdaBriggs]

9. Some folks appear to be supporting him.

Possibly under the "yeah, I might want to shoot someone who deserves it, too" philosophy?

Sigh.

[cherokeeprogressive]

17. I imagine that's just pot-stirring. n/t

[boston bean]

29. which would be something you would totally be against, right?

You're right upthread saying how this OP is adding flames to the flames....

Yet you seem, to think it's no big deal deal and people ought to just look past it, except when you don't. amirite?

[cherokeeprogressive]

33. I guess. n/t

[boston bean]

11. I think it helps. the responses were truly embarassing.

[Eleanors38]

8. But... But, gunz is back. So anything goes, y'know?

[Agschmid]

30. Yup... Welcome back guns!

[Eleanors38]

36. I and most pro-2A DUers support guns in the Gungeon, but...

seems the gun banners now hold power in GD. So any really big news re guns, like some dufus shooting him/her self in the foot, will get posted and set the dogs loose. Again.

Same As It Ever Was.

[Agschmid]

37. It's funny I hold the exact opposite view...

But on some level we agree here.

[Eleanors38]

40. IMO, gun-control is an outlook with little activist base...

So, pro forma it must have elitist connections tied to information systems to "magnify" its message like Oz. It seems that the phenomenon of elites talking to elites is happening in DU.

Enjoy! Enjoy! It is good for you. Every day. Duplicate posts. Zimmy resurrections. Penis talk....

[justiceischeap]

12. It's kinda scary and a lot sad

That so many people take up issue with the texting and not the shooting. It's not just happening here on DU, I've seen it in comment threads on articles related to this incident. To think that people in society, in any way, think that the guy got what he deserved solely for being rude don't get that their opinion is rude and therefore, opens them to the same punishment (if everyone were to believe the way they do).

I'm just astonished that anyone would feel this way.

[Aristus]

13. The Gungeon-approved response:

"Well, he shouldn'ta been sendin' no texts 'n' stuff. Plus the guy what shot him was, like, you know, old 'n' stuff, so it was okay."

[cleanhippie]

15. When you make up your own quote and attribute it to others...

That's just plain lying.

[Aristus]

18. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024334202

[cleanhippie]

20. Is that quote somewhere in that thread or did you just make it up?

I'm not goin through every response to find it.

[cleanhippie]

23. Was this link meant to prove that you lied about that "quote"?

Go on, just admit that you lied and made it up.

[Xyzse]

46. Actually the first comment on that whole thread which goes:

FatBuddy (376 posts)
1. well
it isn't necessary to have a phone on at ALL times.

Up until the 1990s, most of humanity did just fine having phones that plugged into walls and no ability to send texts.

If it is that important, maybe people should go take care of that business BEFORE they go to the movies.

You cannot convince me that you absolutely MUST have a phone on at ALL times.

If it's about your kids, then go take care of your kids and rent a movie to watch with them.

I dunno, people have zero class or concept that there are other people in this world.

If you read that whole thing with that posters, he goes on about how old the guy was and that people should not have phones with them on during movies to ruin other people's enjoyment.

Not really a quote, merely a summary of some of the things said.

Granted, there are so many threads about this already, it is getting overwhelming.
Though, from what I am hearing, the victim did not throw the popcorn, but someone else in the theater.

[cherokeeprogressive]

16. Call this what it really is...

"Hyperbole made up by Aristus".

At least you got the eye roll part right.

[pipi_k]

24. Have to admit

that I haven't read ALL of the posts on the incident, but of what I have read, I never saw this

Plus the guy what shot him was, like, you know, old 'n' stuff, so it was okay."

being posted.

Because it's NOT OK that the guy shot him.

However, it's not that simple.

If reasonable people can agree that anyone who shoots someone else for no reason is not right in the head, then that means there must be something wrong with the shooter, mentally.

If there's something wrong with the shooter, mentally, then why is it "progressive" to call someone with a mental disorder nasty names, as if he's choosing to be senile (or otherwise mentally disturbed)?


Being old and senile doesn't excuse the act.

It does, however, explain why the act happened.

two different things.

[Eleanors38]

38. Let's have MORE and MORE gun talk in GD. It's required!

I mean, sez so in the TOS, right?

[Shandris]

19. Having seen the way things get 'interpreted' here from time to time...

...I'll reserve my judgement on whether or not this OP poll is as silly as it seems.

Could someone, -anyone-, link me to a person actually -defending- this individual? Not someone noting that an escalation requires two people (it does), or something of that nature; someone who is saying "Nah, this guy was in the right. The other guy was texting, and for that he should have died." Or even something remotely close to that.

Anyone? Anyone at all?

[boston bean]

21. read through the lbn thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=696432

[Shandris]

25. I will. I never go to that board, so I would have totally missed it.

Thank you, Boston Bean.

I really do need to remember there are more forums than just GD. I do that on -every single forum- I'm a member of, and have no idea why.

Edit:

Alright, I was wrong and I'll be the first to admit it. I think I need to cry...some of these are heartwrenching to read on a progressive site.

[OnyxCollie]

28. Well,

I was called "fucking disgusting" and a "prick," and accused of being a bootlicker for gun thugs and a hero-worshipper for this murderer.

Decide for yourself:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=696781

[Orrex]

22. Well, how good are the previews in this example?

[NightWatcher]

26. if the text ring tone is a gunshot sound, then it's a draw

[Blue_Tires]

27. Other: Trying to justify or excuse shooting somebody dead for texting during previews

on a liberal message board, no less...

[ScreamingMeemie]

32. Other-- Taking small innocuous comments out of context and trying to stir something up.

I don't play anymore. It's done wonders for my outlook on life

[boston bean]

34. except that is not the case here.

I don't blame you for not wanting to delve in, but it's just not true that someone is taking small innocuous comments out of context.

[ScreamingMeemie]

42. It is, unless this is a subtle argument between two DUers that I have stepped into.

It happened yesterday with a comment I made on this situation. If this has a back story that I'm unaware of, then I'm irritated that I even posted.

[boston bean]

43. I have no idea about any backstory... so if there is one I am out of the loop and don't really

care to engage either. Nor am I aware of something that happened to you.

But I can say pretty clearly, that there were many comments that were in line with what this OP is stating and were not taken out of context.

That is all I am saying. I know nothing else, except that I can't stand gun creep arguments.

[Vashta Nerada]

35. Nobody deserves to be shot dead because they were texting during a movie.

There is never an excuse for such actions.

[CFLDem]

39. Shooting is certainly more disruptive.

They don't stop the movie for texting.

[Captain Stern]

41. Nobody should be shot for texting during a movie or the previews, ever.

Nor should they be struck, spit on, or physically accosted in any way.

The man that was shot in this case is the victim. He is not responsible for being shot.

However, that does not mean that it's ok to text during a movie or the previews.

[GeorgeGist]

44. Do you mean to suggest ...

it's OK if the shootee isn't dead?

[CBGLuthier]

45. Explain Other? Anyone choosing the first choice should have to explain

where exactly they lost their fucking minds/souls .

[MoonRiver]

47. That choice may be self-explanatory.