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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 07:40 PM Jan 2014

Has Joe Scarborough resigned yet? Looks like he has a little scandal of his own brewing...

Dead intern Joe caught violating MSNBC network rule...



At NBC, there’s a rule that if anchors give a paid speech to a for-profit enterprise — the kind they may be covering in their role as journalists — they have to give the money they receive to charity. It’s not a secret rule. It’s been in place for nearly 20 years to prevent conflicts of interest. Everybody knows about it. But is everyone following it?

How about Joe Scarborough?

According to a well-placed source at MSNBC, the “Morning Joe” co-host may have been pocketing the proceeds from some of his many highly paid speeches, in direct violation of network policy. That’s what some of his co-workers suspect anyway, and they’re resentful about it.
here’s no doubt Joe has been doing a lot of speaking lately. He is repped by William Morris Endeavor chief (and Entourage prototype) Ari Emanuel, and exclusive to the Leading Authorities speakers bureau in Washington. The details — and fee structures — are all over the web: If Joe speaks east of the Mississippi, he gets $51,000, swanky hotel not included. For a trip to the West Coast, the fee jumps to $56,000, again hotel not included. When he speaks in New York, Joe doesn’t need a hotel, since he already works there, but he still makes $45,500. Not bad for an hour of talking. His co-host Mika Brzezinski frequently joins him on stage.

That kind of money could make a host pretty sympathetic to the people who are paying him, some of whom might wind up in the news some day. You can see why the networks are concerned about conflicts. NBC laid down its policy in 1996, when it banned employees from accepting money from corporations and trade associations that lobby government or take public positions on issues. All paid appearances must be approved by management.

Does Joe follow these rules? The Daily Caller‘s Mirror blog reached out to Scarborough, as well as to MSNBC’s PR department with that question. Does Joe give the money to charity or keep it for himself? If he’s following NBC policy, could we see the relevant portion of his tax return? But they ignored us. Neither even responded.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/13/msnbcs-joe-scarborough-is-he-violating-a-network-rule/#ixzz2qVu5K3ei





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Has Joe Scarborough resigned yet? Looks like he has a little scandal of his own brewing... (Original Post) HipChick Jan 2014 OP
Well, at least no one gwheezie Jan 2014 #1
Just the audience. TexasProgresive Jan 2014 #15
The only live news shows at that time are Morning Joe and Fox & Friends. TexasTowelie Jan 2014 #34
I have no clue as to why some DUers are concerned with which TV shows other DUers watch DrDan Jan 2014 #39
+1k. Amazing isnt it. nt 7962 Jan 2014 #40
I agree... PCIntern Jan 2014 #47
Who said you needed permission? Doctor_J Jan 2014 #58
Oh really... PCIntern Jan 2014 #60
Because it is rather informative, that's why. It says a lot about that person's perspective. 2banon Jan 2014 #53
please share - what insights do you have about those who watch Morning Joe and/or FOX? DrDan Jan 2014 #54
The Daily Caller, Tucker Carlson's baby. I don't babylonsister Jan 2014 #2
Tucker is not trustworthy Gothmog Jan 2014 #10
The right leaning Daily Mail had it too. I think they may have a story here. Hard to know, though. MADem Jan 2014 #24
Tucker's a disgruntled former employee. DemocraticWing Jan 2014 #37
Didn't Olbermann get canned for a $1500 campaign donation? JaneyVee Jan 2014 #3
He was suspended for a few days. hrmjustin Jan 2014 #5
BUT Martin Bashir DID Get Canned! ChiciB1 Jan 2014 #36
There's no comparison between Rachel and Ed Schultz. Little repsect for him anymore. 7962 Jan 2014 #41
You didn't look very hard. Ikonoklast Jan 2014 #55
Oh dear - get thee to the greatest malaise Jan 2014 #4
Well, poor Joe has alimony and child support payments to make, this could be the source..Bwaaaaha..n monmouth3 Jan 2014 #6
Did I hear that Mr. Family Values is separated from his malaise Jan 2014 #7
I believe they divorced last year. Maybe the just separated, last summer I think. Cheney monmouth3 Jan 2014 #8
"Quietly divorced" from his second wife. merrily Jan 2014 #22
But they live in the same house.. HipChick Jan 2014 #31
As Pope Francis I said in a very different context, "Who am I to judge?" merrily Jan 2014 #33
When I read the title, I thought this was going to be about violating a rule about dating livetohike Jan 2014 #9
I think that one has been violated for a while... HipChick Jan 2014 #12
Ouch! 7962 Jan 2014 #42
Oh dear.......ANOTHER dead girl?? kestrel91316 Jan 2014 #11
My thoughts exactly. madinmaryland Jan 2014 #17
Sounds like a Phil Specter wannabe. Eleanors38 Jan 2014 #51
It troubles me that someone would actually pay to hear him speak n/t doc03 Jan 2014 #13
It pains me.. HipChick Jan 2014 #14
Isn't that what MSNBC does? merrily Jan 2014 #25
Touche! nt mimi85 Jan 2014 #32
They pay tweety and fire Bashir? There is no justice n/t doc03 Jan 2014 #35
The Daily Caller? otohara Jan 2014 #16
Is this for real?? kentuck Jan 2014 #18
Heck..Joe and Mica have been Hawking their Wares for Big Money at Med Tech Convention... KoKo Jan 2014 #19
Daily Caller. I know they hate Scarborough, but do we need to post their idiocy here. Mass Jan 2014 #20
If he violates conflict of interest rules, isn't also the business of viewers? merrily Jan 2014 #26
Dang, I hoped Joe "Dead Intern" was finally getting investigated Ino Jan 2014 #21
The medical examiner was fired about a year later, I think. merrily Jan 2014 #28
MSNBC won't touch it unless the protests get loud IkeRepublican Jan 2014 #23
Loud and sustained. merrily Jan 2014 #27
Joe gets paid a lot to speak... Mike Nelson Jan 2014 #29
MSNBC will ignore it Prophet 451 Jan 2014 #30
He murdered his intern. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #38
IOKIYAR treestar Jan 2014 #43
It may be a company policy... mwooldri Jan 2014 #44
K&R libodem Jan 2014 #45
Scarborough gets a pass for breaking the rules, but Olbermann was suspended in 2008 for 2 weeks catbyte Jan 2014 #46
All Congressmen know how to skim! HenryWallace Jan 2014 #48
Drop both Mika and Joe taotzu Jan 2014 #49
Joe Scarborough ... Sexual tension. tavernier Jan 2014 #57
Rules like that typically only apply to liberals. City Lights Jan 2014 #50
Wasn't Keith Olbermann suspended for doing something similar, contribution $1000 or so.... George II Jan 2014 #52
I don't have cable, haven't seen Joe in a long time Skittles Jan 2014 #56
Scarborough caught red handed Yahoo polynomial Jan 2014 #59

TexasTowelie

(112,118 posts)
34. The only live news shows at that time are Morning Joe and Fox & Friends.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:34 PM
Jan 2014

It's the lesser of two evils.

The other reason is when I watch MSNBC the night before and burn too much catnip, then I'm too lazy to change the channel.

PCIntern

(25,532 posts)
47. I agree...
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 12:33 PM
Jan 2014

I really resent it when I make a comment about a show and someone chimes in and tells me to turn off the TV, as though that option had never occurred to me.

It is as though I need someone else's permission to watch a show or go to a website or do whatever I want to do within bounds.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
58. Who said you needed permission?
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 04:08 PM
Jan 2014

OTOH if you watch right wing TV, other DUers are certainly allowed to assume you enjoy right wing TV, and to wonder why someone who IDs herself as a Dem would partake of such swill.

PCIntern

(25,532 posts)
60. Oh really...
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:18 AM
Jan 2014

disrupt much?

That is a ridiculous assumption and you know it...and fraught with innuendo which doesn't belong here.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
53. Because it is rather informative, that's why. It says a lot about that person's perspective.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 01:12 PM
Jan 2014

Just as it speaks volumes about people who watch Fox.

Gothmog

(145,129 posts)
10. Tucker is not trustworthy
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 08:31 PM
Jan 2014

I agree that it is difficult to believe Tucker on anything. I remember that Tucker was one of the few media types who felled for the pretend scandal for Sen. Bob Menendez
http://www.salon.com/2013/03/22/report_lawyer_links_daily_caller_to_paid_menendez_prostitutes/ and http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/03/bob-menendez-prostitute-admits-she-lied-daily-caller.html

Like nearly every story on Tucker Carlson's the Daily Caller that escapes the conservative echo chamber, allegations that New Jersey senator Bob Menendez paid for sex in the Dominican Republic appear to be false. The attempted November surprise, which mostly flopped even at the time, hinged on two women in a video interview claiming Menendez (a "Latin Lover," in Caller-speak) offered them $500 for sex and only ended up paying $100. Now one of the women says — in an affidavit — that she was paid to make the false charges


The idea that Tucker thinks that he is a journalist is really funny to me

MADem

(135,425 posts)
24. The right leaning Daily Mail had it too. I think they may have a story here. Hard to know, though.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:07 PM
Jan 2014
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2540227/Is-Joe-Scarborough-avoiding-charities-speech-paychecks.html

The most thorough example given by Daily Caller reporter Betsy Rothstein is a speech that Scarborough and his co-host Mika Brzezinski 'gave what appears to be a paid speech' at a Detroit Regional Chamber of Commerce conference in May 2013.
Ms Rothstein does not specify how much the pair allegedly made in the move, but elsewhere cites other events where Scarborough makes between $45,500 and $56,000 per solo speaking engagement.
She then alleges that there is a connection between that May appearance and the Detroit Chamber of Commerce's CEO Sandy Baruah's guest spot on Scarborough and Brzezinski's show three months later.
If the allegations that he makes thousands off paid speeches are true, then that money would only serve to supplement his income from the show, which his divorce disclosures led to estimates that he is paid $99,000 per week.


Maybe he was trying to squirrel away some spare change because of this latest divorce... ?

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
37. Tucker's a disgruntled former employee.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:53 PM
Jan 2014

Or at least that's the impression I get whenever his website starts talking about anything related to NBC. He's just jealous that nobody gives a fuck about whatever the Daily Caller is, and he'll only ever be remembered for being the douchebag in a bowtie who used to be MSNBC's token libertarian.

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
3. Didn't Olbermann get canned for a $1500 campaign donation?
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 07:46 PM
Jan 2014

Or was he just reprimanded. I recall a big deal being made about that nonsense.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
36. BUT Martin Bashir DID Get Canned!
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:53 PM
Jan 2014

And he actually apologized to no other than Sarah... you-know-who! Yes, he was strident at times, but unless there was more that we didn't know about, MSNBC is quick to do CYA most of the time.

Cenk Uger must have been reprimanded, was offered a smaller reporting role with a pay raise, but decided to leave. Yes, I know he didn't actually have his own show. As for Olbermann, I do believe they suggested he leave very strongly, then he got in trouble over at what is now Al Jazeera, when it was Gore's baby.

I stopped watching JoeyScar quite some time ago, simply because he would always kind of slip in those snide remarks here and there. Plus, he turned me off anyway many years ago.

He was a Representative from here in Florida, up in the Panhandle area if I'm correct and I suppose he was given the show to "balance" with Mika. However, it began to look as those Mika was morphing into JoeyScar many, many times. Too much for me to take anyway. A few days ago she did shock me with her retort about sticking to the subject RE: Christie, still not so sure about which way she blows.

MSNBC has let hosts like Rachel, Tweety and others pretty much run their show. BUT, don't we ALL recall what they did to Ed Schultz. Thankfully, the out cry from people must have been too much for them to handle and he's back now. The place leans more left sort of, but there are other channels that do more intensive coverage and we get better "real" information. Problem is though, many people don't get those channels sooooooo many stick with MSNBC.

Would be SO NICE without the twit as far as I'm concerned, but then I'm one of those liberal types! Horrors!!

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
41. There's no comparison between Rachel and Ed Schultz. Little repsect for him anymore.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 08:55 AM
Jan 2014

His intentional use of altered audio and video clips in the past is uncalled for. And he takes money from outside the job as well. Mostly from unions. Havent seen him reporting it being donated either.

Edit: intentional or not, busted out laughing at your comment on Mika: "still not so sure about which way she blows."

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
55. You didn't look very hard.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 02:34 PM
Jan 2014
In a statement to POLITICO, MSNBC spokesperson Lauren Skowronski said the payments were for advertisements on Schultz's radio show and website and for speaking engagements. She also said that all funds from speaking engagements were donated to charity, in keeping with company policy.

“Independent from MSNBC, Ed's radio show and website sell advertising to a variety of clients — both union and non-union," Skowronski said. "Also as previously noted, Ed has donated the honorarium from speaking engagements to charity, per network policy.”




http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2013/12/msnbcs-ed-schultz-paid-by-unions-in-last-two-years-179498.html

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
6. Well, poor Joe has alimony and child support payments to make, this could be the source..Bwaaaaha..n
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 07:51 PM
Jan 2014

malaise

(268,930 posts)
7. Did I hear that Mr. Family Values is separated from his
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 07:55 PM
Jan 2014

current wife?

Let's see if they are consistent and he loses the job. I might pop that Cheney champagne early.

monmouth3

(3,871 posts)
8. I believe they divorced last year. Maybe the just separated, last summer I think. Cheney
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 07:59 PM
Jan 2014

champagne sounds delish..

merrily

(45,251 posts)
33. As Pope Francis I said in a very different context, "Who am I to judge?"
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:30 PM
Jan 2014

But, they are divorced.

So I guess that means they're divorced (but not separated).

livetohike

(22,138 posts)
9. When I read the title, I thought this was going to be about violating a rule about dating
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 08:19 PM
Jan 2014

coworkers (Mika) .

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
18. Is this for real??
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 09:10 PM
Jan 2014

Somebody would actually pay to hear Joe Scarborough talk??

I bet all his high school buddies are pleasantly surprised? I bet they brag about how Joe was always one of their best friends?

But, there was a time when MSNBC had different standards. But they have different leadership now. They are owned by Comcast.

There was a time when their employees were punished with time-off the job when they took money or donated money to political causes.


Do they not do that anymore?

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
19. Heck..Joe and Mica have been Hawking their Wares for Big Money at Med Tech Convention...
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 09:37 PM
Jan 2014

and elsewhere on "Road Show Gigs for High Profits" for Years Now!

A relative of mine in the Medical Device Business walked out of their "Show" that at the "Advomed" (Med/Tech Convention in DC) this Spring. Thought it was "not appropriate" for those two to appear "doing their "Morning Joe Show" at a Convention for Scientists and Med/Tech/Business People attending a Serious Convention to discover and promote new technology and business funding. The Society Paid for them to appear with Dues of Members. (To be fair Clinton, Bush II, Paul Begala, Orrin Hatch...etc have all made presentations but it was about GOVT. POLICY ....not a Celebrity Road Show like Joe and Mika who are nothing but entertainers.

They've been raking in the big bucks appearing at Conventions and Speaking Tours since their show Began! Both are probably Multi-Millionaires from these Road Show Speaking Tours.

This is but a "glitch" in their Profit Making "Celebrity Machine!"

Mass

(27,315 posts)
20. Daily Caller. I know they hate Scarborough, but do we need to post their idiocy here.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 09:45 PM
Jan 2014

For the rest, it is business between Scarborough and MSNBC,

merrily

(45,251 posts)
26. If he violates conflict of interest rules, isn't also the business of viewers?
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:12 PM
Jan 2014

I agree that Tucker Carlson is not reliable. Then again, I think Scarborough is both dishonest and disingenuous, as far as he thinks he can get away with it.

Ino

(3,366 posts)
21. Dang, I hoped Joe "Dead Intern" was finally getting investigated
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:04 PM
Jan 2014

for the unexplained demise of Lori Klausutis in his office.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
28. The medical examiner was fired about a year later, I think.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:22 PM
Jan 2014

But, sure, no reason to look into why a happily married woman was alone in Scarborough's office all night on a Friday night and not reported by her husband as missing until Saturday morning. Doesn't raise any questions at all in my mind.

IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
23. MSNBC won't touch it unless the protests get loud
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:07 PM
Jan 2014

The network knows all to well how Republicans go running to the media-saturating Republican Victim Industry when they get caught with their pants down.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
27. Loud and sustained.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:19 PM
Jan 2014

Look how long it took them to finally put Buchanan aside as a regular "contributor" for xenophobia and racism, even though his "tendencies" shall we say were evident in his books and in the comments he made on MSNBC programs long before MSNBC claims to have noticed them. Viewers, including me, were complaining for years.

Of course, Buchanan continued as a regular on The McLaughlin Group evenn after MSNBC let him go and that is carried by PBS. I think he still may be on it.

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
29. Joe gets paid a lot to speak...
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 10:25 PM
Jan 2014

...and says nothing worth paying for... maybe he has friends in high places.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
44. It may be a company policy...
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 09:51 AM
Jan 2014

... but what about his contract? Maybe something was negotiated that meant he could go on the speaking circuit and get paid, especially if Mika was with him.

Then again I don't know enough. I don't know if I want to... I don't regard Joe Scarborough as a journalist... that he's partisan anyway.

catbyte

(34,373 posts)
46. Scarborough gets a pass for breaking the rules, but Olbermann was suspended in 2008 for 2 weeks
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:08 AM
Jan 2014

because he contributed to Gabby Gifffords & another Arizona Democrat's campaigns. That damn liberal media!!!

 

HenryWallace

(332 posts)
48. All Congressmen know how to skim!
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 12:40 PM
Jan 2014

These types of "rules" have a long history of being ineffective!

1. Setup a private foundation.
2. Hire a family member to administer the foundation's giving.
3. Move all of your existing charitable giving to the foundation.

Net result, more money in your pocket, family employment for generations, virtual control of these funds and there ultimate disposition.

taotzu

(44 posts)
49. Drop both Mika and Joe
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 12:41 PM
Jan 2014

Both morning joe hosts should be fired because they both are bias. Martin would have been a great anchor for this morning show. It seems that whoever runs msnbc wants to work in Hollywood rather than be in the news business. Mika is too timid and lets Joe walk all over her like she is Judy to his Punch. Joe is just totally conservatively warped in the way he comes off when he opens his mouth. We see way too much of Mika's father on the show which leads to believe there is a lot of nonsense being displayed. Mika's father was and still is a very rude and big time bully who never can let anything go even when he is wrong. There are a lot of skeletons in that family closet. Lastly Mika and Joe need to just go ahead and marry each other so that all the sexual tension between the two would subside.

tavernier

(12,377 posts)
57. Joe Scarborough ... Sexual tension.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 02:53 PM
Jan 2014

Sorry, that combination of words makes no sense to me, much like the pairing of, say, smelly underwear and gourmet dinner.

George II

(67,782 posts)
52. Wasn't Keith Olbermann suspended for doing something similar, contribution $1000 or so....
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 01:10 PM
Jan 2014

...to a Democratic candidate?

Skittles

(153,147 posts)
56. I don't have cable, haven't seen Joe in a long time
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 02:48 PM
Jan 2014

does his eyes still look like he's peeping between blinds?

polynomial

(750 posts)
59. Scarborough caught red handed Yahoo
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 04:25 PM
Jan 2014

Galileo in his "ivory tower" methods

Reminds me in sort of way in that Joe Scarborough having the air of attitude or his cavil air-ways has that hubris bounce in arrogance like a reflecting rick o'shay gulf ball out of control.

The zing meister we would all like to see in space flight way far in some star wars parsec, away with the ray gun goon.

Some of the DU er’s know that my studies and research is in math. Although being an amateur mathematics historian, occasionally a wonderful story of arrogance is displayed that matches snarky Journalist. In antiquity Galileo was proving his findings about the parabola, but he was wrong. Imagine the debate at that time. Or, Newton’s authority was so great for a hundred and twenty years is calculus was dominant, however, later proven wrong at the quantum level.

In any event it is a let down to the basics of the current theme we all know is out there. Do they tell the truth, Hell no! Cut it out Joe Scarborough talks about politics kicking the “can” down the road, that’s what his news is like, a dirty political canned story shoving it to the mainstream audience. Sort like Fox News viewers sidelined sitting on the edge of their seat waiting for the ray gun to off.

The real scandal is Andrea Mitchell wife of former Federal Reserve Board Chairman. Yikes if anyone has sexy juicy tingling down your leg trillion dollar derivative cowboy spit in your hand shake deals she would.

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