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Antibiotics or Ibuprofen? (raccoon bite) (Original Post) Aerows Jan 2014 OP
How about a rabies shot. If they have done that, tell your doctor about your situation lostincalifornia Jan 2014 #1
On number three Aerows Jan 2014 #3
Real sorry what you are going through. Maybe they can give you something for your stomach lostincalifornia Jan 2014 #22
Crap. You poor thing! Hang in there. Squinch Jan 2014 #79
Thank you. I am n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #144
About 20 years ago I had to have the rabies treatment and didn't have nausea. Vinca Jan 2014 #160
Probably side effect of Augmentin jsr Jan 2014 #2
You're probably right. Augmentin & nausea go together. Th1onein Jan 2014 #27
I don't know what antibiotics you're on... countryjake Jan 2014 #4
I'm having difficulty keeping food down Aerows Jan 2014 #13
As I said, I don't know a thing about that antibiotic... countryjake Jan 2014 #17
Ibuprofen is really hard on the kidneys heaven05 Jan 2014 #35
Absolutely cannot take acetomenophen with this mix Aerows Jan 2014 #56
It's a common side effect of some antibiotics Retrograde Jan 2014 #57
The pills I'm taking Aerows Jan 2014 #64
I know those pills Retrograde Jan 2014 #87
Gee ... hard to say. 1000words Jan 2014 #5
Pain meds, even aspirin, need to be taken with food. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2014 #6
I'm on the rabies shots Aerows Jan 2014 #59
Give your doctor a call about not being able to keep food down. I had a reaction to bluestate10 Jan 2014 #173
It was the augmentin Aerows Jan 2014 #174
Could be either, I think MannyGoldstein Jan 2014 #7
its the antibiotics....they are like poison to me....rarely can I even finish a whole course VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #8
+1000 heaven05 Jan 2014 #36
+another 1000 on the yogurt. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2014 #94
Ate some yogurt Aerows Jan 2014 #139
Good! Hope it keeps getting better. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2014 #149
Thank you for the suggestion n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #150
The yogurt won't help nor will pro-biotics until the chemicals are flushed through. RadiationTherapy Jan 2014 #122
Not true. I've just had an adventure with multiple antibiotics, and the probiotics DID help, MH1 Jan 2014 #133
Shed-loads of antibiotics Aerows Jan 2014 #134
That is definitely true! and I hope you feel better soon. MH1 Jan 2014 #136
Both can be hard on your stomach. Barack_America Jan 2014 #9
Vaccine, Augmentin, ibuprofen etherealtruth Jan 2014 #10
If you're taking the ibuprofen as recommended and you've not been on it for more than 6 weeks herding cats Jan 2014 #11
It was the augmentin. My word, it made me throw up left and right. n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #145
It's rough on some people like that herding cats Jan 2014 #146
Ask when you see the doctor. MineralMan Jan 2014 #12
How and why did you let yourself get bitten by a raccoon doc03 Jan 2014 #14
Would you like to know how my neighbors are feeding them? Aerows Jan 2014 #19
Wow sorry to hear that, they are nasty. I saw a mother with 3 legs that doc03 Jan 2014 #26
Hell yes there is Aerows Jan 2014 #28
Read my post again I added a story on an Opossum. doc03 Jan 2014 #30
Opposums don't get rabies Aerows Jan 2014 #31
I learned something today, I thought all warm blooded animals doc03 Jan 2014 #39
They *can* Aerows Jan 2014 #42
Armafillos can carry leprosy. Jenoch Jan 2014 #61
I had one in my flower pot Aerows Jan 2014 #62
It was not my intention to offend you. Jenoch Jan 2014 #65
Dear Lord, you held one? Aerows Jan 2014 #66
It was curled up and was like holding a football. Jenoch Jan 2014 #69
The Virginia Opossum Aerows Jan 2014 #68
Did you ever eat one? Jenoch Jan 2014 #72
What!? n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #74
Did you ever lose a toe? n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author Jenoch Jan 2014 #102
Jenoch Aerows Jan 2014 #103
This message was self-deleted by its author Jenoch Jan 2014 #109
LOL Aerows Jan 2014 #86
Bring up what happens when there are deer in the yard Aerows Jan 2014 #63
Down South we called armadillos "possums on the half-shell". nt Laffy Kat Jan 2014 #117
!!!!! BumRushDaShow Jan 2014 #121
They can freak out and jump in the air just high enough to hit a windshield. Aerows Jan 2014 #175
You beat me to this fact Gothmog Jan 2014 #155
They are so ugly, though Aerows Jan 2014 #166
And how ridiculous Aerows Jan 2014 #37
It is not always true that a raccoon out in the day is sick. Curmudgeoness Jan 2014 #47
Indeed Aerows Jan 2014 #48
Oh, I agree. Curmudgeoness Jan 2014 #51
I feel like shit Aerows Jan 2014 #60
The variation of the Rabies virus that affects Raccoons is only on the East Coast for now Gothmog Jan 2014 #158
You said you were feeding them..LOL, it's okay we all make mistakes! snooper2 Jan 2014 #138
I avoided addressing this post Aerows Jan 2014 #164
Hey, glad to hear you're feeling somewhat better. Hope the pain has subsided. JaneyVee Jan 2014 #15
It could be either or neither. Contact your regular health care provider. For tonight, take uppityperson Jan 2014 #16
It could be the ibuprofen. RebelOne Jan 2014 #18
I can't handle pain killers, either Aerows Jan 2014 #34
Luckily, I have never had any adverse reactions from antibiotics. RebelOne Jan 2014 #55
Are you still in pain from the bite? Jenoch Jan 2014 #20
Not in pain Aerows Jan 2014 #88
If you don't have pain, Jenoch Jan 2014 #98
Augmentin. Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #21
Are you asking me if I smoke marijuana? Aerows Jan 2014 #23
Here is a 24-hour nurses hotline. Jenoch Jan 2014 #24
I can call them and ask? Aerows Jan 2014 #29
Yes. Tell them you saw dr, are doing rabies shots, what meds you are taking and see if they uppityperson Jan 2014 #32
Sure Jenoch Jan 2014 #44
Yes, you can actually, nadinbrzezinski Jan 2014 #49
I tried calling, but it was out of service n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #52
I just googled it. Jenoch Jan 2014 #58
People keep asking me if we eat armadillos, and opossoms. Aerows Jan 2014 #75
Again, I did not mean to offend. Jenoch Jan 2014 #96
See your doctor. Brigid Jan 2014 #25
Ginger is excellent for nausea. I always keep a stash of candied ginger around for stomach upsets. scarletwoman Jan 2014 #33
That's why I always fancied Mary Ann. RIP Professor. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jan 2014 #84
SMOKE POT...n/t angstlessk Jan 2014 #38
I'm amazed that it took 38 posts before someone brought up pot. FSogol Jan 2014 #123
I type this as I ride along on my way to Colorado.... OnionPatch Jan 2014 #137
I'm doing fine Aerows Jan 2014 #176
That's good to hear! OnionPatch Jan 2014 #177
Do you have gingerale? And yogurt with active bacteria? question everything Jan 2014 #40
Could be either--try milk, crackers, toast. Ginger is good, and echoing another poster on the msanthrope Jan 2014 #41
THIS, and just skip the ibuprofen. you NEED the antibiotics, but the advil is not essential bettyellen Jan 2014 #67
Maybe grits? Aerows Jan 2014 #71
sure, grits is good. biscuits,whatever you normally find soothing, potatoes, rice, buttered toast …. bettyellen Jan 2014 #76
Thank you Aerows Jan 2014 #80
i do well with ginger tea and plain crackers, and have had to spilt 2 doses into four just to make bettyellen Jan 2014 #83
Eww Aerows Jan 2014 #142
PLEASE DO NOT ASK THE INTERNET FOR MEDICAL ADVICE. WilliamPitt Jan 2014 #43
CALL YOR DOCTOR RIGHT AWAY YOU ARE HAVING A REACTION TO THE AUGMENTIN...DONT BLOW Drew Richards Jan 2014 #45
Rabies shot, antibiotics WhiteTara Jan 2014 #46
never take ibuprofen without some kind of food buffer for your poor stomach eShirl Jan 2014 #50
that`s why they have emergency services at a hospital. madrchsod Jan 2014 #53
generic Zofran taken orally is amazing for nausea and affordable (with insurance) zazen Jan 2014 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author Orrex Jan 2014 #70
Somehow I think Aerows Jan 2014 #73
This message was self-deleted by its author Orrex Jan 2014 #78
On second thought, that was pretty shitty of me. Orrex Jan 2014 #114
Having seen your original thread, I'm so GLAD you are getting the shots.... Hekate Jan 2014 #77
I'm having trouble with meals per se Aerows Jan 2014 #90
it's the antibiotics. Deep13 Jan 2014 #82
I can't eat, and can only hold down broth Aerows Jan 2014 #92
I threw up within two hours after taking ONE augmentin. NCarolinawoman Jan 2014 #85
I think that's what it is Aerows Jan 2014 #89
Treatment Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #91
Appreciate the research, cher Aerows Jan 2014 #93
Np, I know the feeling, I just worry about you. The research is easy, I am up all night from the Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #95
I did, I've had three Aerows Jan 2014 #97
Whine all you like I understand :) Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #99
*YOU* may whine all that you like :) Aerows Jan 2014 #101
I hope you are feeling better from the hip surgery Aerows Jan 2014 #100
Oh I will, its slow but steady. Am actually getting out and driving a bit Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #104
I do my kata every day, though I am Aerows Jan 2014 #105
There you go. Always try to focus on something else, if the pain gets to much Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #106
Do you have a particular Kata? Aerows Jan 2014 #107
I do Kendo and Iaido. So Sword based Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #108
Here is a Great Kendo Video Katashi_itto Jan 2014 #110
Holy hell he broke it.... OMG Aerows Jan 2014 #112
Hard to say Warpy Jan 2014 #111
I need swelling control Aerows Jan 2014 #115
If you're throwing up stuff that looks like coffee grounds Warpy Jan 2014 #116
I always take acidophilous when I am on antibiotics MiniMe Jan 2014 #113
Augmentin, in my case, is a horrible antibiotic. Duppers Jan 2014 #118
Please ask the registered nurses you are seeing every week JanMichael Jan 2014 #119
Aerows, give your MD a call this am. Tell him what is happening. nenagh Jan 2014 #120
It was the augmentin Aerows Jan 2014 #124
Aerows, Augmentin was the one the doc gave our Agnes. PDJane Jan 2014 #154
You've been posting about the damned raccoons since at least October, LeftyMom Jan 2014 #125
You are welcome to view the pics of my hand Aerows Jan 2014 #126
I saw the pictures. They were of a hand with some scratches. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #127
Indeed Aerows Jan 2014 #128
While you may have a point, Jenoch Jan 2014 #129
Thank you, Jenoch Aerows Jan 2014 #131
Hope you are feeling much better soon. greatlaurel Jan 2014 #130
Thank you for the advice Aerows Jan 2014 #132
Augmentin is the devil Aerows Jan 2014 #135
wild turkey nt arely staircase Jan 2014 #140
Wish I had some and time to drink it. n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #141
Not recommended with many antibiotics Retrograde Jan 2014 #147
I am no doctor. If you want anti-biotics or advice on when to use them you will have to consult one arely staircase Jan 2014 #148
I know you were teasing Aerows Jan 2014 #152
I went to the doctor this morning Aerows Jan 2014 #151
Antibiotics often cause nausea DirkGently Jan 2014 #143
contact the doctor who prescribed the antibiotics for advice Skittles Jan 2014 #153
Went this morning Aerows Jan 2014 #163
never can tell what will upset your stomach Skittles Jan 2014 #168
I'd kick them in the ass for you Aerows Jan 2014 #169
so glad you got treatment, Aerows Skittles Jan 2014 #170
Nobody wants this treatment Aerows Jan 2014 #171
Please keep us informed Gothmog Jan 2014 #156
I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. n/t Aerows Jan 2014 #165
That is the truth Gothmog Jan 2014 #167
On a side note - Ms. Toad Jan 2014 #157
"Is that the antibiotics, or the ibuprofen?" Android3.14 Jan 2014 #159
My wife had this dude hollowdweller Jan 2014 #161
They can do some ugly damage Aerows Jan 2014 #162
The shots mess you up Aerows Jan 2014 #172

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
160. About 20 years ago I had to have the rabies treatment and didn't have nausea.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 06:25 PM
Jan 2014

Antibiotics, on the other hand, sometimes make me queasy. As Grandma always suggested, drink gingerale.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
4. I don't know what antibiotics you're on...
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 09:44 PM
Jan 2014

but if you don't have food in your stomach when you take Ibuprofen, it will ultimately make your life miserable.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
13. I'm having difficulty keeping food down
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 09:48 PM
Jan 2014

including my favorite, cottage cheese which is extremely mild.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
17. As I said, I don't know a thing about that antibiotic...
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 09:56 PM
Jan 2014

so, as others have pointed out, that may be the culprit, but I do know about Ibuprofen and it makes me sick as a dog if I sometimes am forced to take it without first eating something.

At least, just a handful of nuts or crackers before taking it, will lessen the effect it has on my digestive system.

Retrograde

(10,128 posts)
57. It's a common side effect of some antibiotics
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:09 PM
Jan 2014

since the drugs also affect the beneficial gut bacteria. Did your medical provider provide you with information on the drug and likely side effects? Were you given information on how to take the drugs - i.e., on an empty stomach, or with a light meal, any other drugs (including alcohol) to avoid while on the antibiotics? If not, ask for them now.

My sympathies: I've always had problems choking down antibiotics. The last time I had to take some for a bad infection the doctor and pharmacist recommended yogurt with active cultures to help repopulate my gut. And, bad as it may seem, take all the ones prescribed.

Glad to hear you're getting better!

Retrograde

(10,128 posts)
87. I know those pills
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:12 AM
Jan 2014

I found I could swallow them easier if I was standing up. I don't know if it was psychological, or just having a straight line from the mouth to the stomach, but it helped keep them down. Crackers helped, too.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. Pain meds, even aspirin, need to be taken with food.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 09:45 PM
Jan 2014

Nausea can result if you don't .

And I 2nd the idea of a rabies shot and checking with your doc about the vomiting.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
173. Give your doctor a call about not being able to keep food down. I had a reaction to
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 10:18 PM
Jan 2014

a medication during the past that one call to my doctor solved.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
174. It was the augmentin
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 12:16 AM
Jan 2014

I am off of it now, went to the doctor this morning. I'm better, but thanks for caring I do appreciate it.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
8. its the antibiotics....they are like poison to me....rarely can I even finish a whole course
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 09:45 PM
Jan 2014

some I even throw up....its not JUST killing the bad bacteria...its also killing the good bacteria...

You should start eating yogurt right away...it will help encourage the good bacteria and return the flora to your gut.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
139. Ate some yogurt
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 04:07 PM
Jan 2014

It really did make things better. Had the 4th shot this morning. 5 will be the end of it.

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
122. The yogurt won't help nor will pro-biotics until the chemicals are flushed through.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 09:40 AM
Jan 2014

I have been told that ingesting live bacteria while on anti-biotics is a waste of money.

MH1

(17,573 posts)
133. Not true. I've just had an adventure with multiple antibiotics, and the probiotics DID help,
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 02:08 AM
Jan 2014

definitely, taken while I was taking the antibiotic.

You have to pay attention though, to whether it's ok to consume stuff high in calcium or other minerals, within a couple hours either side of taking the antibiotic. For some it's ok, for some you have to make sure to take it hours away from the pill or you lessen the effectiveness of the antibiotic.

Also, people with symptoms should consider kefir (kind of like liquid yogurt with more different probiotics). Found in the dairy section of a natural food store or good supermarket. Also GNC sells probiotic chews and those will really help someone who needs to "catch up" after being on antibiotics for awhile without taking probiotics.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
11. If you're taking the ibuprofen as recommended and you've not been on it for more than 6 weeks
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 09:47 PM
Jan 2014

The odds are it's the augmentin (amoxicillin) it's a very common side effect of amoxicillin. My little one cannot take it without having the same reaction.

I'm sorry you were bitten by a raccoon and the mess you've had to deal with since then. I hope you get feeling better soon!

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
146. It's rough on some people like that
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 05:07 PM
Jan 2014

It's a good broad spectrum antibiotic, but some people just can't handle it. I hope you're feeling all better now, and stay away from those pesky raccoons! They're far too cunning and have nasty tempers to boot!

doc03

(35,293 posts)
14. How and why did you let yourself get bitten by a raccoon
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 09:50 PM
Jan 2014

they are nasty little critters. They can tear a big coon hound appart.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
19. Would you like to know how my neighbors are feeding them?
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 09:57 PM
Jan 2014

I don't have coon hound, I have a cat and I was terrified she would get bitten and kept her inside. I went outside, and apparently one of them was pissed that there was no food. It bit the shit out of me. I went to the other porch to wrap the pipes because it was it was cold, and it bit me on the foot.

doc03

(35,293 posts)
26. Wow sorry to hear that, they are nasty. I saw a mother with 3 legs that
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:05 PM
Jan 2014

had 2 young ones with her in my yard a couple years ago. If you got within 20 feet of her she would bristle up and hiss. Last spring I was digging a hole to plant a tomato plant one afternoon and I look up and here comes a raccoon running right at me. I ran inside and got my pistol and shot it. There is something wrong when they are out in broad daylight like that. Like any wild animal they are cute but they are a wild animal. Once when I was little my grandmother sent me out to pick some tomatoes and I saw this Opossum laying in the garden, I picked him up by the tail and carried him down to the house to show my grandmother, I put him down on the porch and he ran away. So they do play possum I am glad he did, they have a set of teeth like a shark.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
31. Opposums don't get rabies
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:16 PM
Jan 2014

they are marsupials, and have lower body temperatures than other mammals. Ugly, yes. They have bumps all over their faces in some of them. Rabid? No. Body temperature doesn't support rabies.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
42. They *can*
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:30 PM
Jan 2014

but have a very low body temperature and short lifespan (1-3 years) that they really aren't a problem. They are diametric opposites of raccoons (3-7), which can live a long time, are very warm blooded, and more curious than an opossum

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
65. It was not my intention to offend you.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:33 PM
Jan 2014

I have only seen armadillos in a zoo. They had one that they let me hold.

I remember seeing my first oppossum about 25 years ago in Minnesota. It was in my father's live trap. We had never seen one before and it was hissing. We thought it might come after us if we tried to let it go. It just ambled up a pine tree.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
66. Dear Lord, you held one?
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:34 PM
Jan 2014

See, I know what they look like, had one in the flowerpot and didn't try to dig it out by hand LOL.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
69. It was curled up and was like holding a football.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:46 PM
Jan 2014

Did you call that Blue Cross number?

My instinct is that you could wait until morning to call your doctor, but I would talk to a nurse just because it is available.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
68. The Virginia Opossum
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:41 PM
Jan 2014

is far less dangerous and a carrier of disease than either armadillos or raccoons. They have a low body temperature, live only about 3 years and well, they are so ugly nobody wants to be friends with them. Opposable thumbs on their back feet, notwithstanding.

Response to Aerows (Reply #81)

Response to Aerows (Reply #103)

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
63. Bring up what happens when there are deer in the yard
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:21 PM
Jan 2014

since that happens, too. Not often, but a time or two.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
175. They can freak out and jump in the air just high enough to hit a windshield.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 08:58 PM
Jan 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-banded_armadillo

The armadillo can jump 3–4 ft (91–122 cm) straight in the air if sufficiently frightened, making it a particular danger on roads.[5] It is the state small mammal of Texas.

Gothmog

(144,905 posts)
155. You beat me to this fact
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 06:12 PM
Jan 2014

Possums can get rabies but it is very very rare due to their body temperature.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
166. They are so ugly, though
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 07:45 PM
Jan 2014

they would probably scare themselves in the mirror. After they hissed at themselves and broke it.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
37. And how ridiculous
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:25 PM
Jan 2014

An opossum is a raccoon is as a dog to a cat. Maybe a dog to a rat. LOL.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
47. It is not always true that a raccoon out in the day is sick.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:45 PM
Jan 2014

It is common for the youngsters to be out during the day when they first are "kicking out of the house" by momma. They need to find a new territory and they are confused and afraid. They can wander around at all times. Just don't want people to freak out if they ever see a raccoon out during the day.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
48. Indeed
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:47 PM
Jan 2014

they are just different creatures, but when they start biting, it's a problem.

They aren't opossums, but any means.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
51. Oh, I agree.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:51 PM
Jan 2014

No raccoon should have had the nerve to walk up to you and bite you. You are doing everything the right way, because this is not normal behavior.

I hope that you get to feeling a little better. You really do need to let the doctor know about this as soon as possible.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
60. I feel like shit
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:17 PM
Jan 2014

I'm on vaccine number three, and throw up when I take the crap they gave me.

Other than that, it's fine.

Gothmog

(144,905 posts)
158. The variation of the Rabies virus that affects Raccoons is only on the East Coast for now
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 06:19 PM
Jan 2014

I live in Texas and so far the variation of the rabies virus that can be carried by raccoons is limited to the East Coast and areas to the west of the Mississippi has not yet observed this virus. There is some hope that the virus will not be able to cross the Mississippi.

When I was a scout leader we used to camp at a nearby state park that had some very arrogant and aggressive raccoons. These raccoons could open any ice chest or most camping boxes. Luckily right now the variation of the rabies virus that can infect raccoons has not been observed in my area yet.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
16. It could be either or neither. Contact your regular health care provider. For tonight, take
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 09:55 PM
Jan 2014

them with a little food, crackers, that sort of thing. And call your pcp tomorrow.

I hope you are feeling better, except for the stomach thing.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
18. It could be the ibuprofen.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 09:57 PM
Jan 2014

That is the only over-the-counter pain killer that I can take that does not upset my stomach. Many people cannot take certain pain killers without having stomach upsets. I am sensitive to aspirin or any prescription drug with codeine.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
34. I can't handle pain killers, either
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:20 PM
Jan 2014

Never had a problem with antibiotics before either, though?

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
55. Luckily, I have never had any adverse reactions from antibiotics.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:01 PM
Jan 2014

Guess you should consult your doctor.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
20. Are you still in pain from the bite?
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 09:57 PM
Jan 2014

I agree that it's the antibiotics that are likely the cause of your upset stomach.

Do you have any appetite at all?


Here is some information.

http://www.medsafe.govt.nz/consumers/cmi/a/augmentintab.pdf


Aerows, do us a favor and do not wait until the evening to ask these medical questions. If you posted this at 2pm my response would be to call your doctor.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
98. If you don't have pain,
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:34 AM
Jan 2014

I would skip the ibruprofen because that is harsh on an empty stomach.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
29. I can call them and ask?
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:12 PM
Jan 2014

"Hi, I'm vomiting because a raccoon bit me and I'm on enough antibiotics to kill a horse"

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
32. Yes. Tell them you saw dr, are doing rabies shots, what meds you are taking and see if they
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:18 PM
Jan 2014

have advice for you.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
75. People keep asking me if we eat armadillos, and opossoms.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:54 PM
Jan 2014

that's rather offensive since I got bitten by a raccoon.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
96. Again, I did not mean to offend.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:33 AM
Jan 2014

We eat gray squirrels, rabbits, snowshoe hares, and I tasted groundhog once.

If I regularly saw oppossums, I would probably try to cook one. I'm not sure abiut armadillos, that leprosy thing kind of has me a bit squeamish. I would never attempt to cook a raccoon because they are quite musky.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
33. Ginger is excellent for nausea. I always keep a stash of candied ginger around for stomach upsets.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:20 PM
Jan 2014

If you can't get candied ginger, just make a weak tea out of powdered ginger, if you have any in your spice collection.

Peppermint is great for nausea, too. Even peppermint candy like LifeSavers or candy canes. You don't need much. If you can get peppermint leaves you can make a tea.

Whichever you use, use a small amount to start with.

And for sure you should get some live culture yogurt to make up for all the good bacteria the antibiotic will be killing. Settle your stomach first with a little ginger or peppermint, then dig into the yogurt.

FSogol

(45,439 posts)
123. I'm amazed that it took 38 posts before someone brought up pot.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 10:25 AM
Jan 2014

Is DU's pot lobby busy trying to get to Colorado?

OnionPatch

(6,169 posts)
137. I type this as I ride along on my way to Colorado....
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 10:47 AM
Jan 2014

Joking...I don't need to go to Colorado, I have a doctor's card because I get migraine headaches up to two times a week. Anyone who shares my affliction knows how bad the nausea from a migraine can be. Make all the "stoner" jokes you like. There's nothing out there that helps nausea like marijuana. Nothing.

Edited to add: In this case, the marijuana may help short term, but the best thing to do is call the doctor. They can usually switch you to a different type of antibiotic that won't cause as much nausea.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
176. I'm doing fine
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 09:01 PM
Jan 2014

didn't need pain medication, MMJ or anything like that. I just quit the antibiotics because they were too harsh. I have one more shot to go, and I'll be fine

question everything

(47,425 posts)
40. Do you have gingerale? And yogurt with active bacteria?
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:28 PM
Jan 2014

Gingerale can help with nausea, and yogurt with active bacteria will help replenish the ones being wiped by the antibiotics.

As other suggested, try Tylenol.

Good luck.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
41. Could be either--try milk, crackers, toast. Ginger is good, and echoing another poster on the
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:29 PM
Jan 2014

thread, try to get some yogurt down you--you can also use it topically if you get the yeast infection that antibiotics love to give.

Definitely try to eat before your meds. Best of luck, and shoot that rabid little fucker if you see it again.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
67. THIS, and just skip the ibuprofen. you NEED the antibiotics, but the advil is not essential
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:41 PM
Jan 2014

and you need to give your stomach a rest. time your meds to be right after you eat a some mild food, rice, crackers, yogurt, etc.- do not take on an empty stomach. screw the ibuprofen, it's too much trouble.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
71. Maybe grits?
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:47 PM
Jan 2014

They are light on the stomach and fuck the ibuprofen. I'll stick my hand in a bowl of frozen water.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
76. sure, grits is good. biscuits,whatever you normally find soothing, potatoes, rice, buttered toast ….
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:55 PM
Jan 2014

soup and crackers and if you hate yogurt, just pick up some probiotics tomorrow. they will help now, and help later too.
I would get such stomach cramps, I would schedule my second feeding and pill taking right before going to sleep, so I wouldn't have to go through two tummy aches every day. a nurse said a lot of people manage to escape the second bout of nausea that way, and it worked for me. feel better friend!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
83. i do well with ginger tea and plain crackers, and have had to spilt 2 doses into four just to make
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:04 AM
Jan 2014

it easier on my system. i was barfing up the whole pill, and not able to eat much in one sitting- so in order not to chance losing more doses I did 1/2 pill 4X a day i/o 2 full pills per day. Much easier for me to tolerate. That helped the first couple of days, because I wasn't sleeping anyway.

 

WilliamPitt

(58,179 posts)
43. PLEASE DO NOT ASK THE INTERNET FOR MEDICAL ADVICE.
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:30 PM
Jan 2014

I've been following your travails, and appreciate all of it, but DOCTOR.

Please please oh please, emergency room or whatever you can do. It sucks, I know, but questions like this are far far far far beyond the capacities of General Discussion on Democratic Underground.

Go. Please go.

WhiteTara

(29,692 posts)
46. Rabies shot, antibiotics
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:40 PM
Jan 2014

probiotics and if you need something for pain, ibuprofen...good luck, bet it hurts like hell.
if you're throwing up, it might be the antibiotics, liquid acidophilous (sp?) is the bomb.

eShirl

(18,478 posts)
50. never take ibuprofen without some kind of food buffer for your poor stomach
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 10:50 PM
Jan 2014

my brother's doctor told him milk was enough - and it wasn't (skim milk). now my brother's stomach lining can't handle any ibuprofen even if he does have some food with it.

(no links, no proof -- this is just what I was told; treat it like any other anecdote you read on the internets)

zazen

(2,978 posts)
54. generic Zofran taken orally is amazing for nausea and affordable (with insurance)
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:00 PM
Jan 2014

I have to take it with antibiotics or painkillers because otherwise I'm too nauseous and/or throw up. I'm so glad it's was developed--first for chemo patients, but great for post-op nausea as well and other nausea-inducing meds.

Ondensetron is the generic version. You might want to ask your physician about it and have it called in. It usually eliminates nausea in 30 minutes. AMAZING.

Response to Aerows (Original post)

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
73. Somehow I think
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:50 PM
Jan 2014

that ...............

Orrex confronted by a friend being gnawed on by a raccoon, ....

Response to Aerows (Reply #73)

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
114. On second thought, that was pretty shitty of me.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 01:37 AM
Jan 2014

I apologize, and I hope that you feel better soon.

Hekate

(90,538 posts)
77. Having seen your original thread, I'm so GLAD you are getting the shots....
Thu Jan 16, 2014, 11:56 PM
Jan 2014

Some antibiotics cause stomach upset, so you should tell your doc and maybe he can give you something for that, or advise you to take your meds with a meal. Please finish the whole course of Augmentin, though -- you don't want to be kicked in the butt with some resistant bacteria a few weeks from now.

Get well soon, kid.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
90. I'm having trouble with meals per se
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:20 AM
Jan 2014

I can't really eat, because I either throw up or ... about the only thing I can eat is light soup.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
92. I can't eat, and can only hold down broth
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:23 AM
Jan 2014

I already have weight issues at 110, so we'll see how this goes.

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
85. I threw up within two hours after taking ONE augmentin.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:07 AM
Jan 2014

Hopefully there could be another antibiotic for you.

I can handle ibuprofen well as long as I line my stomach with FOOD. The food is VERY important.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
91. Treatment
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:22 AM
Jan 2014

Treatment after exposure is highly successful in preventing the disease if administered promptly, in general within 10 days of infection.[1] Thoroughly washing the wound as soon as possible with soap and water for approximately five minutes is very effective in reducing the number of viral particles.[48]

In the US, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends patients receive one dose of human rabies immunoglobulin (HRIG) and four doses of rabies vaccine over a 14-day period.[49] The immunoglobulin dose should not exceed 20 units per kilogram body weight. HRIG is expensive and constitutes the vast majority of the cost of postexposure treatment, ranging as high as several thousand dollars. As much as possible of this dose should be infiltrated around the bites, with the remainder being given by deep intramuscular injection at a site distant from the vaccination site.[15]

The first dose of rabies vaccine is given as soon as possible after exposure, with additional doses on days three, seven and 14 after the first. Patients who have previously received pre-exposure vaccination do not receive the immunoglobulin, only the postexposure vaccinations on days 0 and 2.

The pain and side effects of modern cell-based vaccines are similar to flu shots. The old nerve-tissue-based vaccinations that require multiple painful injections into the abdomen with a large needle are inexpensive, but are being phased out and replaced by affordable World Health Organization intradermal-vaccination regimens.[37]
Intramuscular vaccination should be given into the deltoid, not gluteal area, which has been associated with vaccination failure due to injection into fat rather than muscle.[citation needed] In infants, the lateral thigh is used as for routine childhood vaccinations.[citation needed]

Awakening to find a bat in the room, or finding a bat in the room of a previously unattended child or mentally disabled or intoxicated person, is regarded as an indication for post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP). The recommendation for the precautionary use of PEP in occult bat encounters where no contact is recognized has been questioned in the medical literature, based on a cost-benefit analysis.[50] However, a 2002 study has supported the protocol of precautionary administering of PEP where a child or mentally compromised individual has been alone with a bat, especially in sleep areas, where a bite or exposure may occur without the victim being aware.[51] Begun with little or no delay, PEP is 100% effective against rabies.[11] In the case in which there has been a significant delay in administering PEP, the treatment should be administered regardless, as it may still be effective.[15]

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
93. Appreciate the research, cher
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:27 AM
Jan 2014

But I was directly bitten by a raccoon, including an oozing wound in my hand. Bats have tiny teeth. I got the full shitcan.

I know you have the best intentions, though, I just feel like shit and can't read all of that right now. Forgive me for being crass.

Thank you, though, you are the best of us

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
95. Np, I know the feeling, I just worry about you. The research is easy, I am up all night from the
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:29 AM
Jan 2014

post Hip surgery pain anyway.

You did get the shots though right?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
97. I did, I've had three
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:34 AM
Jan 2014

they make me crabby as can be for some reason, and I am so sorry. I'm throwing up from some part of the medication. Take this to keep swelling down, then it makes you sick, take this to prevent sickness, it makes you sick. I do not mean to whine.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
99. Whine all you like I understand :)
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:38 AM
Jan 2014

Try using ice packs. I sit on them a good portion of the night, my right butt is always hurting from the hip replacement. Try the ice on where you got bit.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
100. I hope you are feeling better from the hip surgery
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:39 AM
Jan 2014

I could only imagine how painful that was. Please keep me informed of how you are doing.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
104. Oh I will, its slow but steady. Am actually getting out and driving a bit
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:44 AM
Jan 2014

but I get exhausted fast.

Did a martial arts Kata (drill, mainly just slowly moved through the forms like sort of Yoga) this morning then was out cold the rest of the day, it wore me out just do a very simple one.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
106. There you go. Always try to focus on something else, if the pain gets to much
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:48 AM
Jan 2014

Think I will go watch some old Zatoichi films

Keep posting about your condition!!!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
107. Do you have a particular Kata?
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:53 AM
Jan 2014

I use a Tae Kwon Do Kata. Which do you use? It helps to know how others practice, if you wouldn't mind sharing.

PM me, and I would be glad to discuss it.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
108. I do Kendo and Iaido. So Sword based
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:58 AM
Jan 2014

The Katas I do are for Eishin-Ryu Swordsmanship. Been doing mainly standing techniques, since hip isnt very flexible yet. Okuden Tachiwaza

Eishin-Ryu Iaido

Warpy

(111,124 posts)
111. Hard to say
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 01:06 AM
Jan 2014

Either could be the culprit but my money's on the augmentin. That's the one you really need, so go back to the doc who prescribed it to see if there is an alternative you can take.

Saltines and ginger ale are about all that will stay down when I've been on a really high dose of erythromycin, my own antibiotic stomach churner.

If you're throwing up stuff that looks like coffee grounds, then it's the ibuprofen and you need to stop that yesterday. Again, the doc can prescribe some pain control for you that will work without making your guts bleed.

Tl:dr, go to the doc for this.

Warpy

(111,124 posts)
116. If you're throwing up stuff that looks like coffee grounds
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:46 AM
Jan 2014

this is life threatening. You don't need it that bad.

Like I said, doctor. No matter what is causing you trouble, you can at least get an anti nausea medication.

MiniMe

(21,708 posts)
113. I always take acidophilous when I am on antibiotics
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 01:36 AM
Jan 2014

And the one you are on is a nasty one. It replaces some of the good gut bacteria that the antibiotics kill off. Call your doc tomorrow to find out if they can prescribe anything different, definitely tell him what your reactions are.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
118. Augmentin, in my case, is a horrible antibiotic.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 07:47 AM
Jan 2014

It makes me very sick too - I'm "allergic" to it.

Ask your doc for another kind of antibiotic.


JanMichael

(24,872 posts)
119. Please ask the registered nurses you are seeing every week
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 07:59 AM
Jan 2014

seriously? Yes, I got your message.

If you have a medical question, DU isn't exactly the best place for advice, particularly since you are seeing medical professionals once a week.

nenagh

(1,925 posts)
120. Aerows, give your MD a call this am. Tell him what is happening.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 08:57 AM
Jan 2014

According to the drug profile.. Augmentin certainly can cause nausea.. also lists vomiting. But a side effect of the vaccine may be nausea as well.

You don't want to get dehydrated .. Ginger ale, flat coke (with sugar, not diet Coke) maybe dilute Gatorade.. The salt in the saltines and the sugar in the honey or flat coke.. are good for electrolytes...

(I was thinking you might keep down Herbal tea with honey..)

If the nausea/vomiting is constant the Dr will certainly want to know...so he can titrate therapy.

Also, the BRAT diet is often recommended for nausea.. Bananas, rice, applesauce, toast.... or your broth...

Good luck Aerows... sorry you are feeling so awful and that your hand is swelling..






 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
124. It was the augmentin
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 11:49 PM
Jan 2014

I've been off of it for about 18 hours, saw the lady at the clinic, and have ceased the rest of it, except for the rabies vaccine. I weigh 110 and I got too loaded on antibiotics.

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
154. Aerows, Augmentin was the one the doc gave our Agnes.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 06:04 PM
Jan 2014

I thought, quite seriously, it was going to kill her. She swears it nearly did. She couldn't swallow anything but broth and tea, and it left her exhausted. There is a group that will make house calls here, and the house calls doc and her doc told her to dispose of the things. She stopped taking them, and I bought everything I could think of to tempt her to eat. Swiss Chalet chicken finally did it, and she's still with us, but it was close.

As an addendum, Agnes is my mother, who is 88 and living with me. It's a good thing she is, I think.....

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
125. You've been posting about the damned raccoons since at least October,
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 11:51 PM
Jan 2014

why do you keep asking for advice instead of applying common sense and maybe using the google?

I'm starting to think this is some weird performance piece.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
126. You are welcome to view the pics of my hand
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 11:53 PM
Jan 2014

and I live in the sticks. I *wish* it was a performance piece, my friend.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
127. I saw the pictures. They were of a hand with some scratches.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 12:00 AM
Jan 2014

Mine has looked worse after playing with my cat.

I still think that three plus months of everybody on the internet telling you that raccoons have rabies and to leave them the eff alone should have convinced you to leave them the eff alone. If you really managed to get yourself bit twice in two separate incidents in one day after that much warning? Let's just say that if I did something that stupid I certainly wouldn't record every detail on the internet. :O

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
129. While you may have a point,
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 12:43 AM
Jan 2014

the puncture wound in Aerows hand is not something one would expect from their own cat. It appeared to be a deep punctre wound to me.

Aerows, I hope your appetite comes bank and you regaun youe health quickly. (My legs weigh more than 110#, maybe, I'm 6'3"/230#.)

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
130. Hope you are feeling much better soon.
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 12:50 AM
Jan 2014

BRAT diet is the way to go for sure. You need to get your electrolytes back in balance. My family doc is a fanatic about eating yogurt when we are taking an antibiotic, too.

Take care.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
132. Thank you for the advice
Sat Jan 18, 2014, 01:24 AM
Jan 2014

the swelling has gone down and I'm no longer throwing up, but that is the issue. Thank you for the advice, though, I appreciate it.

Retrograde

(10,128 posts)
147. Not recommended with many antibiotics
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 05:18 PM
Jan 2014

Again, the pharmacy or doctor should have provided information on how to take the drugs and whether or not to avoid alcohol while taking them.

Unless you're suggesting that being bitten by a wild turkey is better than being bitten by a raccoon

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
148. I am no doctor. If you want anti-biotics or advice on when to use them you will have to consult one
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 05:22 PM
Jan 2014

My advice to drink Wild Turkey should be taken with all the seriousness that one should give to all random anonymous internet posters with no medical training. How much that is I will leave to the individual.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
151. I went to the doctor this morning
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 05:48 PM
Jan 2014

it was the augmentin. I have desisted taking it because it was horrible.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
143. Antibiotics often cause nausea
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 04:19 PM
Jan 2014

I did not pay enough heed to warnings about erythromycin I was once given for strep. Taking it "with food" was not enough -- you needed to eat some to coat the stomach, then take the pill, then eat some more. Lost it twice before calling the pharmacy for clarification.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
171. Nobody wants this treatment
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 09:41 PM
Jan 2014

It's damn near worse than the disease.

EDIT: And I can handle pain, it's the screwiness that goes along with this medication that is the problem. You get a little bit of rabies and walk around the house hissing.

Ask anyone that has ever had these shots. They do a number on you mentally. I don't care what anyone else says, I know, I'm having them.

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
157. On a side note -
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 06:19 PM
Jan 2014

I hope you reported that first hospital (the one which didn't take you seriously) to someone who can correct the error of their ways.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
161. My wife had this dude
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 06:34 PM
Jan 2014

Come in all bandaged up.

He had reached down in his feed drum in the darn and a coon was in there and latched on to him.

He got seriously torn up but he killed the coon with his bare hands because he was hoping it was negative and he didn't want it to get away and be unable to be tested.

But my wife said for the damage the coon did to him he probably should have let it go and took the rabies shots.

My wife works for the Health Dept so they test the heads for rabies.

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