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Some feminist memes and toons. (Original Post) ZombieHorde Jan 2014 OP
on that second one.. snooper2 Jan 2014 #1
her cat owns them BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #15
Yeah, that artistic choice made me raise an eyebrow too. ZombieHorde Jan 2014 #21
I like the last one. cyberswede Jan 2014 #2
" . . . said no one ever." Le Taz Hot Jan 2014 #3
I think it's to humiliate the woman walking by leftyladyfrommo Jan 2014 #4
Exactly. It is to reinforce dominant status. redqueen Jan 2014 #6
if he can't force her to have sex with him, he can force her to listen to him geek tragedy Jan 2014 #7
the more uncomfortable and beaten down the woman's reaction, BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2014 #16
Mostly, it's to show off their mating call to other males. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #12
Nope. It never worked with me. In_The_Wind Jan 2014 #5
... and it never worked FOR me VWolf Jan 2014 #10
Other lines will work depending on the delivery. In_The_Wind Jan 2014 #11
Kicked and recced cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #8
The interesting thing is that many MRAs also hate gender roles... ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2014 #9
it is utter bullshit to portray the MRAs and feminists as co-equal geek tragedy Jan 2014 #13
And how often does that happen? AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #14
he could ask my wife's clients, who get drug tested when trying to win geek tragedy Jan 2014 #17
Sure. Here's some supporting data. ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2014 #23
Un bloody likely. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #26
Things are clearly headed in the right direction... ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2014 #27
Fathermag.com is an extreme rightwing male supremacist shitrag. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #28
Alright. Fine. ConservativeDemocrat Jan 2014 #30
"the Violence Against Women Act which portends the widescale curtailment of men’s civil liberties" redqueen Jan 2014 #31
My 'code word' alarm is going BLEEP BLOOP WARBLE all over the place AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #33
I have a problem with it if it's going to print something an editor didn't actually check. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #29
Here are two absolute MUST READ articles about these groups. redqueen Jan 2014 #32
lol Sheldon Cooper Jan 2014 #18
Absolutely This One - Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2014 #19
That Tina Fey quote is so very apt. nt redqueen Jan 2014 #22
And then there's the cover of Time. Beacool Jan 2014 #20
K and R geardaddy Jan 2014 #24
Thank you. Beacool Jan 2014 #25
Pretty good :) shenmue Jan 2014 #34

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
21. Yeah, that artistic choice made me raise an eyebrow too.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 04:56 PM
Jan 2014

Oh well, the point is clear, in my opinion, but it's also funny.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
3. " . . . said no one ever."
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 11:37 AM
Jan 2014

That's what I've always wondered. The "Hey chickie chickie baby baby, why don't you come over here and suck my cock." Does that EVER work? And assuming it has a virtually 100% failure rate, what ARE they trying to accomplish? Honest to goddess, guys, stop it. It's puke-worthy.

redqueen

(115,096 posts)
6. Exactly. It is to reinforce dominant status.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 12:05 PM
Jan 2014

To shore up the sense of higher status in the man doing it, as well as that of the men around him, and to reinforce the woman's understanding, as well as that of any woman witnessing this happening, that women are of a lower status.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
16. the more uncomfortable and beaten down the woman's reaction,
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:23 PM
Jan 2014

The bigger the kick they get.

Proves your point.


Think back to second grade.....little boys like to upset the girls. Makes 'em look big to their friends too.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
9. The interesting thing is that many MRAs also hate gender roles...
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 01:17 PM
Jan 2014

...they just complain about it from a male perspective. The dad who loses custody to the crack-addicted ex because she's a woman, and everyone (especially the courts) know that its women who are supposed to take care of the children.

Mind you, both groups also attract lunatics from the fringes, who hate the opposite sex. But there is a lot more agreement than disagreement, and many MRAs could be also persuaded to adopt feminist perspectives if given a little encouragement.

Just a thought.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
13. it is utter bullshit to portray the MRAs and feminists as co-equal
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 01:55 PM
Jan 2014

seekers of equality.

both groups also attract lunatics from the fringes


Yeah, just like the NAACP and the "white power" movements also attract loonies . . .

The dad who loses custody to the crack-addicted ex because she's a woman, and everyone (especially the courts) know that its women who are supposed to take care of the children.


How many custody cases have you litigated?

MRAs are largely sexist assholes.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
14. And how often does that happen?
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:14 PM
Jan 2014

"The dad who loses custody to the crack-addicted ex because she's a woman, and everyone (especially the courts) know that its women who are supposed to take care of the children. "

Supporting data?

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. he could ask my wife's clients, who get drug tested when trying to win
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:24 PM
Jan 2014

custody of their children away from the men who beat them up.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
23. Sure. Here's some supporting data.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:14 PM
Jan 2014

Please note, I'll not get into a duel of anecdotes, as that's not useful at all. There are terrible one-off decisions being made around custody cases every day. So let me point you to this. I think it's reasonably balanced:

"In the old days, the courts used "the best interest of the child" as the explanation for why they gave custody to one parent or the other. Old Bureau of Census statistics indicate that in the early 90s the custody continued to be 90% to the mother, 9% to other family members or child shelters, and 1% to the fathers. Usually, "best interest of the child" was shorthand for "the kids go with mom and dad gets to see the kids ever other weekend, split of the holidays, and a week or 2 in the summer."

In those days, it was exceptional for even those fathers whose ex was verifiably drug addicted, alcoholic or mentally ill, to win custody of his children. (To be fair, it should also be said that some fathers got the court to believe this even when it wasn't true--I have met many women who didn't have custody, who didn't seem to fit any of these categories.)

The courts in the old days weren't particularly shy about what they were doing with custody. One judge in the South was quoted on the record as saying he never gave custody to fathers because in his experience on the farm he had never seen a calf follow a bull around in the pasture; the baby calves only followed their mothers."


Look at that first Bureau of Census statistic. 90% vs 1%. If there was a Bureau of Census statistic that said that nationally, whenever police went to break up a bar-fight, they arrested black people 90% of the time, vs 1% of the time for whites, would you suspect the police might be possibly racist? Or, would you be a Rush fan and say that that blacks are 90 times to cause violence as whites do?

There are people who do evil and hurtful things all the times in custody cases. Including both sides lying. Constantly. I will also say that courts are being a bit more even-handed these days - which is actually a good thing. But gender roles are still heavily in play in many parts of the country concerning this. And if you're entirely in favor of gender roles when it helps you, only against it when it doesn't, then you're very much a hypocrite.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
26. Un bloody likely.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 05:35 PM
Jan 2014

In 2009, census bureau cites custodial fathers at 17.8 percent of custodial parents.

That tells us nothing about how many fathers actually sought custody.
http://www.census.gov/prod/2011pubs/p60-240.pdf

In 1997 that number was 14.9 percent
http://www.census.gov/prod/2000pubs/p60-212.pdf

So I suggest you scrap that bullshit 'Father Mag' source you just threw out.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
27. Things are clearly headed in the right direction...
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 06:13 PM
Jan 2014

...and, frankly, I'm now wondering a bit about that 90%/9%/1% stat myself. So I'll give that to you.

But while we're on the topic, do you have a problem with a magazine intended for fathers? That parenting isn't something they should be interested much in?

If so, I think I might be able to point out someone else who has serious gender role issues to you.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
28. Fathermag.com is an extreme rightwing male supremacist shitrag.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 06:19 PM
Jan 2014

Sample quote:

The worst sex abuse danger your child faces these days is not from adults or other children, but from government sex bullies.

To keep sex abuse a growth industry, its practitioners are increasingly targeting children, especially boys.


There's a section dedicated to defending convicted child rapist Roman Polanksi.

It's a website for misogynists, by misogynists.

More:
Because the last thing that presidential hopeful Biden wants is for persons to draw historic parallels between the Violence Against Women Act which portends the widescale curtailment of men’s civil liberties, and the injustices that befell wrongly-accused Black men generations ago.


ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
30. Alright. Fine.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 06:29 PM
Jan 2014

Here is something you don't see on the D.U. every day. I withdraw my quote using "FatherMag" and cede the point entirely.
I'm not a big fan of Roman Polanksi, even if he's apparently BFFs with Whoopie Goldberg.

Facts and reality do matter to me. Cite them against my current position, and I will change it. (My position, not the facts.)

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

redqueen

(115,096 posts)
31. "the Violence Against Women Act which portends the widescale curtailment of men’s civil liberties"
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 06:33 PM
Jan 2014

These groups are dangerous.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
29. I have a problem with it if it's going to print something an editor didn't actually check.
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 06:27 PM
Jan 2014

Being off by 1300% or thereabouts, depending on the year (Census is a once a decade thing) to support an agenda I'm not even sure is an issue is spectacularly disingenuous, and worthy of equal levels of derision.

I am a father, and such a thing could potentially be useful, depending on what it is crafted for, and why.

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
19. Absolutely This One -
Fri Jan 17, 2014, 02:31 PM
Jan 2014

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on edit: adding this one because it goes so well together.
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