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jsr

(7,712 posts)
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 10:22 AM Jan 2014

Lt. Gov. Guadagno to Hoboken mayor: "If you tell anyone, I will deny it”

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/lupica-christie-hoboken-tale-smells-arrogant-empire-article-1.1585018

Chris Christie-Hoboken tale may spell doom of arrogant ‘Empire’
Gov. Christie needs for the Hoboken mayor to be just one more person telling lies about him for political gain, and piling on. Because if she’s not, then way too many people in the New Jersey governor’s administration start to look like they think this is ‘Boardwalk Empire’ and they’re working for Gov. Nucky.
Sunday, January 19, 2014, 11:54 PM

The Hoboken mayor is Dawn Zimmer. Not only is she a Democrat, she also first told her story on MSNBC, which the Republican Party sees as state-run television. Only now Zimmer doesn’t back up even a little bit, she continues to say she is willing to tell that story under oath, and take a lie detector test if that’s what it takes to get people to believe her about Christie, and how the hero governor of Hurricane Sandy might have turned relief money into bargaining chips.

“I’m sharing my journal,” she said Sunday on CNN. “I’m offering to testify under oath. What are they doing?”

Zimmer writes of Guadagno telling her how important the project was to Christie, then describes the message she felt Guadagno was delivering:

“The word is that you are against it, and you need to move forward or we are not going to be able to help you. I know it’s not right — these things should not be connected — but they are, (Guadagno) says, and if you tell anyone, I will deny it.”



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Lt. Gov. Guadagno to Hoboken mayor: "If you tell anyone, I will deny it” (Original Post) jsr Jan 2014 OP
disgraceful SummerSnow Jan 2014 #1
NY Daily News has been right on this! Cha Jan 2014 #2
chuck todd just confirmed that she has already denied telling zimmer that.......i'm SHOCKED!!! spanone Jan 2014 #3
She said she would and here we are! Cha Jan 2014 #4
mayor zimmer has said she would testify under oath AND take a lie detector test spanone Jan 2014 #5
I hope it comes to that.. and Kim Guadagno is Cha Jan 2014 #6
of course she will deny it and she did just minutes ago beachbum bob Jan 2014 #7
she was angry NJCher Jan 2014 #8
And she feigned personal hurt, too, bless her heart! calimary Jan 2014 #9

spanone

(135,828 posts)
5. mayor zimmer has said she would testify under oath AND take a lie detector test
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 10:36 AM
Jan 2014

wonder if guadagno will do the same?

Cha

(297,166 posts)
6. I hope it comes to that.. and Kim Guadagno is
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 10:38 AM
Jan 2014

not one of those people who can fool a polygraph!

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
7. of course she will deny it and she did just minutes ago
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 10:54 AM
Jan 2014

all this falls into the hands of the Federal Prosecutor and his office which still has Christie allies. Public corruption is tough gig to get the facts and to bring charges...this investigation more so.

NJCher

(35,659 posts)
8. she was angry
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:22 PM
Jan 2014

I watched her statement on television.

I like the idea of Kim G taking a lie detector test, too.



Cher

calimary

(81,220 posts)
9. And she feigned personal hurt, too, bless her heart!
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jan 2014

I will say this: we haven't heard the Lt. Governor add anything about herself being willing to go under oath and take a polygraph test. And we haven't seen her hand over any diary or other form of documentation. To me, that's very telling.

Wouldn't you want to jump on that, if an adversary made an accusation against you and the rule for public-relations self-defense always is "get out in front of it" - and try to trump what the opponent says by insisting YOU can certainly go under oath about this and YOU are eager to take a polygraph test too, to prove your own innocence? Wouldn't you want to go forceful and well-armed like that? Yesterday, didn't Dawn Zimmer put it directly to them "I'm willing to do this and this and this, what are THEY doing?"?

And that's a very good question. What ARE they doing? What's their response? She's willing to stick her neck out. And she's turned over her diary without question OR redaction evidently. They're just standing there making empty assertions with no proof. Forgive me but I've got a "tit-for-tat" thing going through my mind at the moment. Pardon the pun. But here, only one woman is willing to put herself and her neck on the line. The other just yaps empty crap. Sorry, Madame Lt. Gov. You've gotta do more than that in this case. Your adversary here has put it all out on the table in the open. You can't just stand there making empty assertions with no proof. This doesn't seem like any she said/she said. (HAH! ANOTHER false equivalency they're trying to pull here.)

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