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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 07:56 PM Jan 2014

Lt. Gov Kim Guadagno's LOOPHOLE in her statement


Today she said:

“I deny any suggestion made by Mayor Zimmer that there was ever any condition on the release of Sandy funds by me,” Guadagno told reporters.



It was Chrisitie's 'condition on the release of Sandy funds' - not Guadagno's.

Guadagno was delivering Christie's message.

Looks like the lawyers wrote that statement!


VIDEO here: http://www.mediaite.com/online/nj-lt-gov-dismisses-hoboken-mayors-false-and-illogical-allegations/

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Lt. Gov Kim Guadagno's LOOPHOLE in her statement (Original Post) Tx4obama Jan 2014 OP
Yup. Gidney N Cloyd Jan 2014 #1
Good catch. nt Hissyspit Jan 2014 #9
The first part of that statement doesn't work too well, either rocktivity Jan 2014 #2
They're lying and ProSense Jan 2014 #3
Yep, an addtional article excerpt below Tx4obama Jan 2014 #6
Mark Ferzan Is Another... Laxman Jan 2014 #12
Wonder how Jamie Dimon felt when he heard this one: mountain grammy Jan 2014 #19
That was just such an obvious lie, but it's being flamingdem Jan 2014 #11
Right.. that kinda proves they're lying in my book. and, Cha Jan 2014 #22
Total weasel words, just like her bully boss. nt onehandle Jan 2014 #4
I saw the video Gothmog Jan 2014 #5
The dreaded non-denial denial. longship Jan 2014 #7
Wow, she's a nasty one. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #8
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #10
These people..... DeSwiss Jan 2014 #13
That woman looks WICKED bigdarryl Jan 2014 #14
When you're smearin', bullying, and lyin' all the time.. Cha Jan 2014 #15
I could tell she was full of shit by the phoney outraged affectations in her voice arely staircase Jan 2014 #16
That's what I thought, too. Blue_In_AK Jan 2014 #21
It won't hold if she is placed under oath. She won't go to jail for Chris Soprano. kairos12 Jan 2014 #17
it depends on what the meaning of, "was", is nikto Jan 2014 #18
k/r Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #20
That was my first thought, too. Said with such bravado. Lawyer-built straw-man. blm Jan 2014 #23
She wasn't under oath. When she is - will the 5th amendment protect her too? n/t SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2014 #24
The Odd Way She Said Several Things DallasNE Jan 2014 #25
This statement was scripted by a lawyer Gothmog Jan 2014 #27
When she said that Turbineguy Jan 2014 #26
Good catch !!! Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2014 #28

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
2. The first part of that statement doesn't work too well, either
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 08:02 PM
Jan 2014
"I deny any suggestions made by Mayor Zimmer" and "I deny saying what Zimmer said that I said" are two entirely different things.


rocktivity

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. They're lying and
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 08:05 PM
Jan 2014

engaging in obfuscation. For example, after spending the last day slamming Zimmer's claim about the amount she received, a Christie official basically confirmed the amount. They insisted the city got $70 million, funds that have nothing to do with what Zimmer requested, and now, they're changing the story to say it went to residents.

They're conflating funds to create confusion.

Christie Official: Most Sandy Aid Went To Hoboken Residents, Not The City
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sandy-hoboken-relief-funds

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
6. Yep, an addtional article excerpt below
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 08:13 PM
Jan 2014


Christie’s storm czar Mark Ferzan, in a rare phone chat with reporters, said Monday that Zimmer’s claim that Hoboken got just $342,000 of the $127 million they requested was “a mischaracterization.”

“I'm scratching my head a little bit about any community that’s getting the short end of the stick,” said Ferzan, who said Hoboken actually got $70 million in recovery aid.

But of that aid money, Christie’s storm czar confirmed what Zimmer said earlier — that $43 million of the aid Hoboken got was from flood insurance money and some $15 million more came from the feds.

-snip-

Here: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/n-lt-governor-slams-false-illogical-claims-article-1.1585322


So, the 58+ million was NOT from the Sandy aid fund Christie has to hand out.



Laxman

(2,419 posts)
12. Mark Ferzan Is Another...
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 10:22 PM
Jan 2014

refugee from the Christie U.S. Attorney's office. He doesn't sneeze in public without it being cleared from the Governor's office. He "runs" the GORR- the Governor's Office of Recovery & Rebuilding. The money that Hoboken has received came from the Federal Government, not the State.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
19. Wonder how Jamie Dimon felt when he heard this one:
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 11:04 PM
Jan 2014

"In the article, published Monday, Christie likened his plight to that of Jamie Dimon, the JPMorgan honcho whose bank suffered a record $6.2 billion trading loss because of a risky rogue trader known as the London Whale.

“How could Jamie Dimon not have known about a trade that was being put on by a trader in London?” Christie mused. “Well, you know, I think it’s fairly safe to say that Jamie Dimon didn’t know that a trade was being put on and that when people lied about it, he didn’t know they were lying.”

All the rats stick together and can sink together.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/n-lt-governor-slams-false-illogical-claims-article-1.1585322#ixzz2qzwilujk

Cha

(297,154 posts)
22. Right.. that kinda proves they're lying in my book. and,
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:38 AM
Jan 2014

of course, candy crowley latched on to it. nice little Christie bootlicker.

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
5. I saw the video
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 08:12 PM
Jan 2014

She was reading a prepared statement. I have no doubt that a lawyer wrote this statement.

longship

(40,416 posts)
7. The dreaded non-denial denial.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 08:16 PM
Jan 2014

I am going to watch my All the President's Men DVD tonight in honor of the Christie administration's responses.

In that flick, Jason Robards Jr. -- as WaPo's legendary Ben Bradley -- schools his people (and the audience) of what a non-denial denial is, and when to circle the wagons.

So far, from what I've read, it's all been non-denial denial.

I've looked for a video of the scene on UTube but no success. It's a good one. It's also very appropriate to this story.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
13. These people.....
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 10:23 PM
Jan 2014

...have no idea when to STFU!

- Isn't it great!?!?!

K&R

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Guadagno -- not just close to it!!!!''
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Cha

(297,154 posts)
15. When you're smearin', bullying, and lyin' all the time..
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 10:39 PM
Jan 2014

Last edited Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:39 AM - Edit history (1)

there's got to be "loopholes".

Thanks Tx.. wanna read in a bit.. but, for now.. a kick and rec.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
16. I could tell she was full of shit by the phoney outraged affectations in her voice
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 10:42 PM
Jan 2014

thank you for finding the loophole in the wording itself.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
21. That's what I thought, too.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 12:32 AM
Jan 2014

Like those murderers on 48 Hours when they're professing their innocence before the trial.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
25. The Odd Way She Said Several Things
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 05:58 PM
Jan 2014

Pointed to her statement being prepared by lawyers. And I picked up on the "by me" when she said it.

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
27. This statement was scripted by a lawyer
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 06:08 PM
Jan 2014

It was obvious to me that this statement was scripted. The Gibson Dunn lawyer hired by Christie for his office is a crisis management lawyer and this is the type of statement that I would expect from this firm

Turbineguy

(37,319 posts)
26. When she said that
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 06:07 PM
Jan 2014

I thought it was just to set herself up to become Governor after Christie gets the chop.

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