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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsChristie's Camp Fires Back: The Facts on Hoboken's Sandy Recovery Aid
* Hazard Mitigation funding is federal funding specifically targeted to prevent and mitigate against future hazards and flooding. This is not funding for Sandy rebuilding efforts.
* Municipalities across all 21 counties in New Jersey have requested a combined $14 billion worth of funding specifically for Hazard Mitigation projects.
* Mayor Zimmer and Hoboken requested over $100 million in Hazard Mitigation funding, or roughly over one-third of all available statewide resources or roughly the entire pool of money available specifically for municipalities for a city that is only two square miles.
* Hobokens other grant requests have not been denied. The State along with the Obama Administration continue to work with Mayor Zimmer on Flood Mitigation efforts as more resources become available in the months ahead.
http://www.newjerseynewsroom.com/state/christies-camp-fires-back-the-facts-on-hobokens-sandy-recovery-aid
More figures at the link -- long article.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)I read about 10 of them since yesterday. They're simply press releases for Christie.
On edit, I suspect by your response you want to believe Christie's bullshit.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Frankly, Zimmer's proposal to spend $70 million to put floodwalls around Hoboken and install pumps to emulate New Orleans sounds like a non-starter. It' hard enough to get barrier beach residents to give up their view of the ocean. Getting Hoboken residents to approve a flood wall along the Hudson would seem to be impossible.
http://cnnac360.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/4-23-13-letter-zimmer-christie.pdf
http://cnnac360.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/5-8-13-letter-zimmer-christie.pdf
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Those are lies from Christie's minions. So if you're looking for "actual data, rather than just opinion," why are you relying on lies from Christie officials?
I mean, the article you posted is basically repeating what Christie officials are pushing.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)It seems like you would look for that data somewhere other than a Christie press release.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)thing to accomplish if Christie hadn't vetoed this:
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/04/christie_vetoes_sandy_oversigh_1.html
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)with the bridge thing but I'm sure they will also be looking into whether "friendly" local officials got more funds after Sandy also. Glad they combined those two investigations as Christie could have tied them up in court complaining there were two competing investigations.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)Until Christie releases all the numbers there is a lack of objective data, but only a total moron would believe a Christie press release would be objective.
pnwmom
(108,925 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)of shoreline who need this- not individual wealthy people's beach homes. Do you not see the difference?
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)You'd also have to protect Hoboken station and train yards, the ferry terminal, and generally coordinate with Jersey City and Weehawken since they are also on the flats along the Hudson below the Palisades.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)compared to the ridiculous amounts awarded to home owners down the shore that work to prevent others from ever actually seeing the shoreline. thanks for the correction, but the shoreline is just a tad under 1.5 miles.
What would ever make you think residents do not want added protection? What is wrong with a seawall? I have never heard this claim from anyone. Not once.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Federal oath...and administer a lie detector test if Christie team is so sure of the truth
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)That 70 million they cite did not come from Christie, most of it came from insurance payouts to people who have been paying insurance premiums for years. For the administration to try to take credit for people getting insurance money shows how desperate they are.
warrior1
(12,325 posts)dbackjon
(6,578 posts)The Facts? As posted by Christie and his thugs
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)dbackjon
(6,578 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)I guess they have to get to 30,000 posts before they get the dkf treatment
dbackjon
(6,578 posts)Arugula Latte
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geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024043011
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023541901
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2869210
2. I've received emails from Nigeria, and they generally seem to be from individuals with low IQ
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nations_and_intelligence
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Very telling. Yes indeed.
GeorgeGist
(25,294 posts)lpbk2713
(42,696 posts)But in reality they are only piling more bullshit on to a pile that is already a mountain high.
Niceguy1
(2,467 posts)Be easy to fact check it out. The article says that there is $300 million available for prevention project's and that Hoboken requested $100 million of it...obviously that isnt going to happen
spanone
(135,637 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)means its sitting in the circular file.
Squinch
(50,774 posts)suggest that Hoboken wasn't frozen out.
Lots and lots of figures. Few of which have anything to do with the subject at hand, none of which change anything that Zimmer said.
Sorry. Your boy is still toast.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)okaawhatever
(9,453 posts)doesn't seem like a democratic voter, among other things.