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(46,301 posts)
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 07:31 PM Jan 2014

Ted Nugent shows his true colors...

Lily-white.

I've seen "sub-human" and "mongrel" used other places, to describe humans.
The KKK, Nazi Germany and Stormfront.

And exactly WHAT "treason" has Obama and liberals done?
You'll never get a real answer from meth addict Ted Nugent.

(Seriously, I knew a guy who was a meth addict. He looked and sounded like Nugent.)

Outdoor Channel's Ted Nugent Says "Subhuman Mongrel" President Obama Should Be Convicted Of Treason

National Rifle Association board member and Outdoor Channel spokesman Ted Nugent called President Obama a "subhuman mongrel" and argued that he and other liberal politicians should be punished for treason.

Merriam-Webster dictionary defines mongrel as "a dog with parents of different breeds."

Nugent made the comment during a January 17 interview with Guns.com at the 2014 Shooting, Hunting and Outdoor Trade Show (SHOT Show), an annual gun industry trade show that draws 60,000 firearms industry professionals. Nugent was representing the Outdoor Channel, which airs his hunting show Ted Nugent Spirit of the Wild. Nugent and Outdoor Channel recently announced a multi-year endorsement deal where Nugent will make "talent appearances on the network's behalf at top consumer and industry trade events." In announcing the deal, Outdoor Channel's CEO said that Nugent "symbolizes everything that is right in our industry."

In addition to describing "Barack Hussein Obama" as a "gangster," Nugent said the president and other liberals should be jailed and face "the just due punishment that their treasonous acts are clearly apparent":

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/01/21/outdoor-channels-ted-nugent-says-subhuman-mongr/197669

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Ted Nugent shows his true colors... (Original Post) Archae Jan 2014 OP
How Does He Get Away with It? Dirty Socialist Jan 2014 #1
Because the NRA is composed of people who think geek tragedy Jan 2014 #3
Lily White? Nah. When I think of Chicken Hawk Teddy, these are the colors that come to mind.... Siwsan Jan 2014 #2
Yeah the guy who shat himself to get out of Vietnam is calling the president a "subhuman mongrel". Initech Jan 2014 #4
Poopy Pants needs to shut up! radicalliberal Jan 2014 #5
Don't worry. AZ Mike Jan 2014 #6
The real worrisome line is the Outdoor Channel CEO's comment jmowreader Jan 2014 #7
I've heard it suggested before that Nugent was a pedophile. I think he likes his girls around okaawhatever Jan 2014 #9
taken from wikipedia...not a really reliable source but they have references to this SummerSnow Jan 2014 #11
I looked up a couple of stories too. He supposedly claimed on VH-1's Behind the Music that he was okaawhatever Jan 2014 #13
If that happened to Courtney at 12 Ken Burch Jan 2014 #15
omg, he is disgusting. No telling what else he has done to someones daughter. SummerSnow Jan 2014 #16
well his subtle walk a fine line past statements are certainly called into question. nt arely staircase Jan 2014 #8
Fuck Ted Nugent! pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #10
Have you read Ted's explanation of why he dodged the draft? jmowreader Jan 2014 #12
Yeah, and I had my draft physical the same year as Nugent pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #17
I don't remember any hippie-killing promises jmowreader Jan 2014 #24
Here's the quote: pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #25
He wouldn't have killed very many, then jmowreader Jan 2014 #41
Dear Sir Boomerproud Jan 2014 #32
Thankyou, Boomerproud pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #34
Thank you, Pinboy3niner. Boomerproud Jan 2014 #36
Your brother must be a very special guy to come through that so well pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #37
I'll certainly give him your story and welcome. Boomerproud Jan 2014 #39
No one could talk about that job pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #40
Never liked his music in junior high... Ken Burch Jan 2014 #14
Why is that shitstained, draft-dodging pedophile still alive and/or free?? Didn't he PROMISE he'd be Ghost in the Machine Jan 2014 #18
Yellow is his color. MineralMan Jan 2014 #19
+1000 pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #23
And brown. Initech Jan 2014 #26
Hey Ted Poopypants! Shouldn't you be in jail or dead by now? muntrv Jan 2014 #20
Hey Ted go back to putting the "dung" in dungarees Blue Owl Jan 2014 #21
Evil SOB! hrmjustin Jan 2014 #22
I am tazkcmo Jan 2014 #27
Why isn't he dead yet? geomon666 Jan 2014 #28
Because ol' Ted don't put his life on the line for ANYTHING pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #29
Because not even Hell wants him? Beacool Jan 2014 #31
Let's see If I got this straight. Beacool Jan 2014 #30
I hate to say it, but I have to agree with that third thing pinboy3niner Jan 2014 #33
This Spy magazine cover comes to mind. Beacool Jan 2014 #35
His true color is white? So all whites are like him? Skip Intro Jan 2014 #38

Siwsan

(26,251 posts)
2. Lily White? Nah. When I think of Chicken Hawk Teddy, these are the colors that come to mind....
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 07:40 PM
Jan 2014

Urine yellow and Fecal brown. His draft-dodging stunt stained him straight to the center of his fetid, moldy soul.

Initech

(100,042 posts)
4. Yeah the guy who shat himself to get out of Vietnam is calling the president a "subhuman mongrel".
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 07:50 PM
Jan 2014

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

jmowreader

(50,530 posts)
7. The real worrisome line is the Outdoor Channel CEO's comment
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:07 PM
Jan 2014

The fact that "Ted Nugent symbolizes everything that is right in our industry" is one of the reasons his industry is on the decline.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/number-of-hunters-in-us-declining/

Oh, and Ted? You do know that treason has a specific definition that doesn't include "any behavior hard-rightists don't like," and there's a reason your last album was seven years ago and sold less than four thousand copies in its first week. It's not that you're an asshole, it's that your music fucking SUCKS! This is an excerpt from one of the songs on Ted's last album:

I like to eat my girl scout cookies
I like to eat them all night long
I like to eat my girl scout cookies
I like to eat them all night long
I like a plate at night with a glass of milk
Them butter creams go down smooth as silk
I like a plate at night when I'm in my bed
Never let them girl scouts, never let them go to your head
I like to eat my girl scout cookies
I like to eat them all night long
I like to eat my girl scout cookies
I like to eat them all night long
That coconut just drives my wild
I get my cookies fresh from a child
That peanut butter gets stuck to the roof of my mouth
I like my girls scouts east north west and south
I like to eat my girl scout cookies
I like to eat them all night long
I like to eat my girl scout cookies
I like to eat them all night long
Girl scout cookies

I'm not sure if this is a song praising pedophilia or just the last act of a desperate man, but you know something? A guy could get rich selling "vacuum cleaner turbocharging kits" that come with a Ted Nugent CD and a tube of super glue. Just open your vacuum, glue the Ted Nugent CD into the tank, and your vac will suck ten times harder than it did before.

okaawhatever

(9,457 posts)
9. I've heard it suggested before that Nugent was a pedophile. I think he likes his girls around
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:15 PM
Jan 2014

puberty age. I guess around 12 or 13. Don't know if there's proof.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
11. taken from wikipedia...not a really reliable source but they have references to this
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:28 PM
Jan 2014

In 1978, Nugent began a relationship with seventeen-year-old Hawaii native Pele Massa. Due to the age difference they could not marry so Nugent joined Massa's parents in signing documents to make himself her legal guardian, an arrangement that Spin magazine ranked in October 2000 as #63 on their list of the "100 Sleaziest Moments in Rock".[30][31]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Nugent#Personal_life


okaawhatever

(9,457 posts)
13. I looked up a couple of stories too. He supposedly claimed on VH-1's Behind the Music that he was
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:36 PM
Jan 2014

a serial pedophile because he dated two seventeen year olds. I'll tell you what, the Pele Massa story doesn't make sense. Since when can't a 17 year old get married with their parents permission? Especially back then? If I have time I'm going to look up more info. I do know Courtney Love says she gave him a b.j. when she was twelve. He's so disgusting...

jmowreader

(50,530 posts)
12. Have you read Ted's explanation of why he dodged the draft?
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:34 PM
Jan 2014

Most of us here, if we'd have dodged the draft, we would have done it for ideology or because we didn't think Vietnamese people needed to die for the Michelin Tire and Rubber Company or because we just plain didn't want to get killed in a war against a country that posed no threat to US interests. Ted dodged the draft because he didn't want to give up playing guitar.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
17. Yeah, and I had my draft physical the same year as Nugent
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:46 PM
Jan 2014

I ended up serving, being seriously wounded by AK fire in combat, and being retired from the Army for disability.

I'm also aware that he said he would have been good at war, and he would have killed alll the hippies in the foxholes.

Of course we'll never know about his prowess as a warrior since he was so determined to avoid that, but to most of us who have served--and to many who haven't--his flip comments about killing fellow soldiers did not go over well.

jmowreader

(50,530 posts)
24. I don't remember any hippie-killing promises
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 10:28 PM
Jan 2014

Not to say that there were none; we ARE talking Nugent, of course, and Nugent hates "hippies" so much he's been known to change the subject so he can go off on them.

He did say that he would have killed off the entire Viet Cong Army all by himself.

One thing I know, is Nugent is just so lucky he didn't go on one of those "support the troops" tours of Europe during the Gulf War and visit Berlin. My troops knew Nugent and would have been happy to take him to lunch for those comments...a knuckle sandwich with doner kebab sauce would have been the meal of the day.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
25. Here's the quote:
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 10:34 PM
Jan 2014
“… if I would have gone over there, I’d have been killed, or I’d have killed, or I’d kill all the hippies in the foxholes … I would have killed everybody,” he told the Detroit Free Press in an interview published July 15, 1990.

Fortunately, for our hero, Ted didn’t go to Vietnam.

http://blog.reidreport.com/2012/04/ted-nugent-draft-dodger/

jmowreader

(50,530 posts)
41. He wouldn't have killed very many, then
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 06:04 PM
Jan 2014

How many actual hippies served in Vietnam? For that matter how many hippies were there?

It's correct to assume soldiers did drugs especially alcohol, but you can't blame them: the war was just too weird. My platoon sergeant in Korea was in Vietnam and told us of his camp's barber. This guy had been working on base for five years and was very well liked. One fine day Sergeant D was getting a haircut when two Military Intelligence soldiers walked in. They let the barber finish the haircut, then ordered everyone else out and shot the barber - he was a colonel in North Vietnamese Intelligence and had been when they hired him. The VC had tunneled under the American 25th Infantry Division base camp and they would just randomly pop out of camouflaged holes and shoot five or six guys before retreating. I don't do drugs but if I was in the Vietnam War I probably would have - the stress and uncertainty would have done it.

Boomerproud

(7,943 posts)
32. Dear Sir
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 11:22 PM
Jan 2014

My brother was in the 9th Infantry (stationed at Dong Tam) in '68-'69. He was in Graves Registration and many of his friends were wounded in combat. I can't imagine your anger at someone like Ted Nugent and I wish he had the balls to say something like that to your face so that you could respond in kind. I hope you are okay and I send you

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
34. Thankyou, Boomerproud
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 11:37 PM
Jan 2014

I hope your brother's doing okay. I had a friend who served as a cook in Vietnam; his PTSD came from serving in Graves Reg in the States. That's a helluva job!

I'm doing okay. I have my physical deficits, but they're nothing compared to the psychological deficits. Those of us who have made it this far have learned to manage those things. Not always well, but well enough to survive. And we know a few things about survival...

Love & Peace to you and your brother.

Boomerproud

(7,943 posts)
36. Thank you, Pinboy3niner.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 11:43 PM
Jan 2014

You are very special and I will tell my brother about you. He turned 20 when he was there (he'll be 65 in May!) He has a successful business, a good marriage and 2 beautiful (grown) kids to hang his hat on-so he's doing well. All the best to you!

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
37. Your brother must be a very special guy to come through that so well
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 12:21 AM
Jan 2014

I was hard-core combat Infantry, and I couldn't do what he had to do. I wouldn't wish that job on anyone.

I doubt it's been easy for him. In the aftermath those things haunt us, and I know it had to haunt him. He really deserves credit for being able to rise above.

We were close to the same age--I turned 21 in Vietnam. And I was the officer in charge of a grunt Infantry platoon.

It's really a shame that they put us into those fucking jobs at that age.

Be sure and tell your brother 'Welcome Home' from a brother vet.

My last radio callsign in-country was pinboy3niner

2/501 Inf., 101st Abn. Div. '69-'70

Boomerproud

(7,943 posts)
39. I'll certainly give him your story and welcome.
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 12:30 AM
Jan 2014

I asked his daughter once if he ever talked about Vietnam and she shook her head. I know he thought he had it much easier than you men in the field and had (and still has) incredible respect for you. Whenever he gets the chance I know he gets together with fellow vets and has a real bond with them. As for your comment about putting you both in those jobs at that age-I know he came home a different person (as all of you did). Be well!

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
40. No one could talk about that job
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 01:22 AM
Jan 2014

Not like the rest of us who can talk about what we did.

I can understand why your brother feels the way he does about combat vets. It was their remains he handled. He gained an intimate, terrible knowledge of the costs of war.

I speak in schools about Vietnam. But I don't tell battle stories. I talk about the people involved, like the guy who got a 'laugh box' as a present from his family Christmas Day. And how we all cracked up over it that day and when he put it on the radio afterward. And about how, years later, I heard a laugh box at a party and suddenly broke down in tears.

Joe Rufty, the guy who got the laugh box, got hit by machine gun fire and went down with a sucking chest wound a month after Christmas. He didn't make it. The story I tell is more about me, and how I loved Joe, and how it felt to lose him.

I feel for your brother. He had a very important job. But how the hell do you talk about it?

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
14. Never liked his music in junior high...
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 08:37 PM
Jan 2014

...his stuff was always the kind of thing the bullies listened to.

Forty years later, he's STILL inciting bullying.

Fuck Nugent, and the one lick he rode in on.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
18. Why is that shitstained, draft-dodging pedophile still alive and/or free?? Didn't he PROMISE he'd be
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 09:17 PM
Jan 2014

"dead or in jail in a year" if Obama got re-elected??

I know it's been over 30 years ago, but I remember reading in an interview he did somewhere that his music and stage show was just that.. a show, a way that he made money... and wouldn't even allow his own daughter to listen to his music or attend his concerts. He said it was all an act and that he didn't drink, smoke or use any kind of drugs. I kind of respected him for that, and wasn't until I joined DU that I learned about his draft-dodging stunt, his pedophile ways and his politics. I went to 2 of his concerts when I was a teenager, but really only liked a few of his songs. I never listened to anything of his after the "Wango Tango" album, and can't even remember the name of the band he was in with Tommy Shaw from "Styx" because I never listened to them, either.

He's proven himself to be a world class asshole, as well as a festering boil on the crusty asshole of society!

Ghost

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
27. I am
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 10:43 PM
Jan 2014

a meth addict (13 years clean and counting) and at my worst never looked or acted as horribly as the Turd Nugget. I await your apology!

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
28. Why isn't he dead yet?
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 10:56 PM
Jan 2014

Not that I condone suicide but he promised us he would kill himself if Obama was president.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
29. Because ol' Ted don't put his life on the line for ANYTHING
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 11:05 PM
Jan 2014

We already know that if he ever were to be faced with a life-and-death situation, his only response would be a pantful.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
30. Let's see If I got this straight.
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 11:15 PM
Jan 2014

Obama is a mongrel
Liberals should be charged with treason and sent to jail.
Hillary has scrotums to spare.

Well, I hope that Nugent campaigns for the Republicans in 2014 and 2016.



pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
33. I hate to say it, but I have to agree with that third thing
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 11:23 PM
Jan 2014

Hillary has scrotums to spare.


As sexist and objectionable as that imagery is, it's kind of attractive here, in context.

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
38. His true color is white? So all whites are like him?
Wed Jan 22, 2014, 12:26 AM
Jan 2014

You ought to rephrase that part of your OP. It reads pretty racist otherwise.

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