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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsfacebook will soon lose 80 percent of its users study says
http://business.time.com/2014/01/21/facebook-is-about-to-lose-80-of-its-users-study-says/Social media like a disease that spreads wuickly then dies.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)A huge premise to accept.
More likely, social media follows something more like a technology adoption model. In that case, Facebook will be around until something replaces it, which could be Facebook version 2.
MattBaggins
(7,904 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)20% reduction by the end of 2014.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Facebook has already faded away in terms of popularity among kids and teens. They overwhelmingly use social media via smartphones (and to a lesser degree, tablets), and there are better choices than Facebook for those devices.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)greymattermom
(5,754 posts)It's so easy to block the ads on facebook. I use it to keep up with my kids and grandkids, but I use adblock. Most of my friends have stopped looking at it but haven't actually quit. How can they make money from that?
avebury
(10,952 posts)the ads on Facebook?
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)Mozilla Firefox browser. I don't see any ads on any site.
bobclark86
(1,415 posts)I use AdBlockPlus, which lets me hide elements on a page.
I also haven't seen an ad on YouTube in a year.
sendero
(28,552 posts).. but look at how fast the once mighty MySpace tanked. I agree with another poster here, as soon as something "better" (not objectively but subjectively) comes along Facebook will be toast.
glowing
(12,233 posts)But I did like the general idea of it.. And Facebook used to be limited to age. Now that everyone and everything is on it, it's kind of like e-mail. U check it so often, catch up a little bit, but there's so much crap on it, it's just another item that we must have to keep up with PTA and football and school announcements.
I remember when it was so fun to hear "you've got mail". Now, it's mindless crap most of the time to send into the trash box.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)Both my personal and work accounts are 90 percent crap that is not useful. It is a very inefficient way of communicating. I often miss messages that were kinda important because they were like needles in haystacks of bullshit.
glowing
(12,233 posts)It's used for work and personal use.. Anything job related gets shoved into an email I want to use. What's the point of maintaining 2 accounts to weed out.. So it's all in 1 spot and ridiculous. I feel like dealing with email is like having a job now.. Lol.
And yes, it's not the best way sending things about, but it's semi-private still and like the fax machine, there's still bed of it.
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)email sorts to folders, then, I occasionally check the folders. Some of it's just crap that is sometimes fun to read, but my important email gets automatically sorted into respective folders. It's not as bad now, but in my heavy work days I often had around 2,000 or so emails in my active folders.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)As well as my kids and friends in America.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Never seems to happen.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)I've forbidden my lady to go to it on my computer, she can mess up her own with the spyware and the browser misdirections that they scatter all over a computer's hard drive. Facebook is malware, and as soon as enough sheep figure that out, it'll be on a death spiral.
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)riqster
(13,986 posts)All I needed to see. Premature publication.
Let them submit it for publication and see if it withstands scrutiny.
groundloop
(11,518 posts)So, judging by that small sample size I think the author might be onto something. Plus, it gets annoying as hell hearing all about what color someone painted their fingernails or what they fed their cats for lunch.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Middle aged people seem to enjoy the pace and format of Facebook, while the teens/20s crowd has moved on to Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram, etc. But I don't see many middle aged people adopting those (at least, not that I'm aware of -- I'm one who is just sticking to Facebook).
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I watch my fiancee using Snapchat and Instagram and it seems quite silly and pointless; social media without all those confusing words and conversations.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)to leave a few years ago. Teens don't want their parents and everyone else having access as "friends." That and the spam (the "do you love Jesus" crap that goes around), non-stop advertising and tricky use of users' info were I think the beginning of the end for Facebook.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)Could be...
CFLDem
(2,083 posts)Way too much going on in my feed from way too many people I'll never see again.
I suppose I could pare down friends but I don't want to completely lose contact.
I guess mines more of an aquaintance-book than anything....
Now twitter and snapchat- those are much less annoying.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)Blanks
(4,835 posts)It's great that I can see what people that I haven't seen for decades are up to, but the format sucks for discussions.
If they had the indent for side discussions feature that is here at DU, I would like it better.
I expect something better will come along though, and everyone will migrate there. Just like they did from MySpace. I thought it might be google+, but that doesn't appear to be going to happen.
Every time they update Facebook - I like it less.
Heywood J
(2,515 posts)Now I'm off to let every one of my ICQ friends know! I might just post it on Myspace.
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)True
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)geez that's so 90's. I somehow managed to miss the myspace boat.
marlakay
(11,455 posts)Looking for someone girl or guy to hike with. We got talking over a few weeks then went out.
That was 15 yrs ago.
onenote
(42,700 posts)First, something will have to come along to replace it.
Second, unlike some earlier social media, Facebook transcended age. (How many people over the age of 40 did you know who used MySpace?) The fact that an older generation has adopted FB as a means of staying in touch with friends and family suggests to me that it isn't going to disappear all that soon. Indeed, some of the younger users abandoning it now may just return to it as they get a older.
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)I met my boyfriend at 42 on MySpace. We've been together seven years now. So, I am very grateful for MySpace I did leave Facebook a couple years ago when they added that timeline thing. It just got too visually overwhelming for me. I'm really enjoying Twitter, I follow a lot of writers, artists, and other interesting people.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)Just the human attention span. I've already seen people go through phases where they post on FB a lot and then quit. It turns out you are NOT really "staying in touch with old friends" because the old friends neither post all that much, check the site all that much, or respond to your posts all that much.
If people really wanted to stay in touch, they could exchange email addresses.
RKP5637
(67,107 posts)interested in the 'group experience' on FB and nebulous friends, etc. Additionally, I feel I have more control with email as to what is occurring and my privacy.
Most of the people I know who use facebook are over 40, many in the late 60's and 70's. I also note that many tend to be in affinity groups, political, High School Class, clubs, etc. I'm in my 60's and don't have the patience for Twitter and the newer social media, but then I have an attention span greater than a flea. One of the things I like about it, is that I've reconnected with a number of old friends who I'd lost contact with over the years, mostly because of moves.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Every time my friend ( 38 years old) posts a funny or a slightly rude comment, his grandma and/or mom comes on to correct him or chastise his use of swear words. I can see the kids getting tired of using the same social media as their mom. No one wants to post party pics when mom might see them.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)People have disappeared in droves, especially the young crowd. Still a lot of retirees there, and activist stuff.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)That does not look good for Facebook in the long term.
frogmarch
(12,153 posts)Not only am I treated to frequent pictures of my kids, grandkids and great-granddaughter, I can renew old friendships and stay in touch with friends and acquaintances from days of yore.
Because of Facebook Ive also reconnected with my first real boyfriend. He loved me 50+ years ago and still does. Much to mr. froggys disapproval. I like that.
babydollhead
(2,231 posts)Cha
(297,171 posts)convert. Started out slow but am gaining speed. It's fun fun fun. My son is on there with his wife.. Lots of Democratic sites for me.. plus old dear friends in NY and California.
Good connect with ol boyfriend. Reminds of a movie I just saw with Barbra Streisand and Seth Rogan .. Very Funny!
Brainstormy
(2,380 posts)the old folks have ruined it for them.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,181 posts)And that it die a horrible, painful, humiliating death.
Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)pipi_k
(21,020 posts)Twitter with honey and leave it out in the sun to attract biting ants I would.
I decided to give it a try a couple of years ago.
Most worthless piece of shit I've ever seen.
Or maybe I just feel that way because I've never liked, or been good at, "cocktail party conversation". Shallow little one-liners for people with limited attention spans.
Which probably describes nearly everyone under the age of 18 or so...
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)wercal
(1,370 posts)Link:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/18/us-facebook-ipo-lawsuit-idUSBRE9BH0VD20131218
Why are they getting sued? In short, they are accused of hiding information about problems with their business model when they went public. Most of these problems revolve around the fact that pop up ads are a lot less effective on mobile devices. I also think, as the suit progresses, Facebook will have to fess up and acknowledge that a measureable percentage of users are duplicate accounts, which will ultimately reduce their advertising rates. Quite frankly, this suit may trigger a criminal investigation...not so good for Facebook.
Anecdotally, the young people in my life are using it less (and Twitter and Instagram more). Now Instagram is owned by Facebook....but I don't think Facebook will continue to have enough cash to buy up pseudo competitors forever. Instagram will eventually be replaced by something else (Snapchat?), and that's the way I see these sites going - a rapid rise, followed by a Myspace cliff. I just can't imagine Facebook being 'cool' in ten years, since it will be what 'mom and dad' use. Something else will have taken its place - and probably a lot sooner than ten years from now.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)wercal
(1,370 posts)What is alleged is criminal - insider trading. The creative forces behind Facebook, like Zuckerberg, will be devoting their energy towards keeping this from snowballing into a criminal investigation. I think it will be a large distraction, as its more than 'just money' on the line.
And just a general sense of exasperation can drain the energy of the top brass. I can't remember the last time I saw a positive story about Zuckerberg or Facebook. All I see are stories about privacy complaints, people changing citizenship before selling stock to avoid taxes, and of course the glitches during the IPO, and now the accusations of hiding information before the IPO. Facebook may be becoming a lot less 'fun' to work at, and that slowly takes a toll.
BTW, one of the litigants in the suit is the public employee pension fund of California. This isn't some small fry who can be bought off for a half million dollars - it looks very likely to go to trial....and Facebook will get even more bad press.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)It's a classic shareholder derivative suit - "I invested in this POS and lost money, so now I'm going back to the prospectus to allege you omitted to warn about something that happened."
The suit is not about insider trading. The suit claims that FB failed to disclose that increase in mobile platforms was already eating into their revenue. Instead, they only warned that increase in mobile platforms would possibly eat into their revenue.
This kind of lawsuit is extremely common.
wercal
(1,370 posts)..then you describe insider trading.
Here is another story describing what Zuckerberg is facing. Note the article terms it (correctly) as insider trading. There is nothing ordinary about insider trading being alleged in a huge ipo like this.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Johonny
(20,840 posts)The one clear thing is social media will survive and prosper although no one knows which companies will ultimately come to dominate the market. It would be hard to bet against the company with a lot of capital to invest for the future though.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)magical thyme
(14,881 posts)I've stubbornly refused to join Facebook. However, there are a couple of clubs I would very much like to join, but their interaction is strictly facebook, so I've been toying for a few weeks with breaking down an joining Facebook.
I can pretty much guarantee, the minute I do, the death knell for Facebook will begin to toll. It's just my karma or something. Club, company, dinner party. I join something. It dies.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)you have a skill, you should consider developing it, finding ways to practice. Especially if it brings you joy.
magical thyme
(14,881 posts)Alas, the mere thought of becoming republican brings me heartburn.
And while the thought of becoming republican with the sole purpose of killing them off *does* bring me joy, that also reverses the karma. Instead of dying off, they would probably gain strength. I'd be miserable, of course, and horrified.
And everybody here on DU would consider me as something well below a turd...
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)we can do it
(12,184 posts)AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)There will be other ways of showing people my food.