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raccoon

(31,110 posts)
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 10:29 AM Jan 2014

For most Americans, the Iraq War seems to have gone down the memory hole. For this guy,

and many others, there's no way they can ever just forget about it.



Remember Ali Ismail Abbas? He lost 13 members of his family and both his arms when the US illegally invaded Iraq, in a "preemptive attack" based on trumped-up lies. Here's the link to the article about him. At least he seems to be fairly happy now. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ali-abbas-iraq-war-10-1766717

I don't know if I've ever been so disgusted with so many of my fellow Americans who cheered this illegal, immoral war on.

The American MSM totally dropped the ball on this one, and acted like the lap dogs they apparently have become.

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For most Americans, the Iraq War seems to have gone down the memory hole. For this guy, (Original Post) raccoon Jan 2014 OP
Looking forward! OnyxCollie Jan 2014 #1
K&R. PowerToThePeople Jan 2014 #2
If democrats had any courage, they would ask those who were severely wounded loudsue Jan 2014 #3
I doubt the current leadership wants to remind America of their arguments in '02... MisterP Jan 2014 #8
Thank you. yellowwoodII Jan 2014 #4
Kick & rec. theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #5
MSM dropped the ball? 90-percent Jan 2014 #6
Ah yes, and those "imbed" reporters theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #7
Tehran? Orrex Jan 2014 #11
OMG you are so right! nilesobek Jan 2014 #9
As a veteran of that war, I remember it and think about it constantly Victor_c3 Jan 2014 #10
You enlisted for noble reasons Martin Eden Jan 2014 #12

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
3. If democrats had any courage, they would ask those who were severely wounded
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 12:04 PM
Jan 2014

to help them make political commercials to remind Americans which party can't be trusted even for a minute.

There are so many commercials I would make if I had the money. Hard-hitting ones that laid the truth bare. We have the truth on our side....all the republicans have are lies.

yellowwoodII

(616 posts)
4. Thank you.
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 01:29 PM
Jan 2014

I agree with you so much. The trick is to keep the neocons from getting us into any more of these tragedies.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
6. MSM dropped the ball?
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 01:45 PM
Jan 2014

I don't think so. I think their slanted pro-war propaganda was exactly what their Military-Industrial-Congressional-Complex masters pay them to do. Josef Goebbels himself would have squealed with delight at the magnificence of their propaganda.

SUPPORT THE TROOPS!

-90% Jimmy

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
7. Ah yes, and those "imbed" reporters
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 01:47 PM
Jan 2014

Allowed to see and report only what was allowed under military supervision.

All the MSM had a field day showing us over and again the explosions and flames over Tehran.

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
9. OMG you are so right!
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:55 AM
Jan 2014

I wonder sometimes if we are all somehow collectively guilty of war crimes just for being Americans and not calling, "bullshit."

Take a long, hard look at this guy dismembered to make others rich. And the taxpayers paid for it.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
10. As a veteran of that war, I remember it and think about it constantly
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 08:16 AM
Jan 2014

I never supported or believed in the war on Iraq. I thought our response to Afghanistan was justified, but Iraq was a different thing altogether. I was a naive and young kid when I joined the Army in 1997 and I honestly thought that I would be joining a cause that would make the world a better place. I never dreamed we'd fight a war like the one we did on Iraq.

I say it to myself and to everyone who'll listen. I'm sorry for my role in the war on Iraq. I'm truly and very sorry.

I was an Infantry Platoon Leader for 13 months and I really was in a position where I could have lessened the impact on the people of Iraq.

The war on Iraq was an affront to everything I believed in, yet I found myself participating in it and taking a lead role. Again, I'm sorry.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
12. You enlisted for noble reasons
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:27 AM
Jan 2014

And once in, your duty is to carry out the mission assigned to you. I don't believe you need to apologize, but I appreciate your expression of sorrow.

On 15 March 2003 I joined 100,000 marchers in the streets of DC to protest the imminent invasion of Iraq. At one point a small group of counter-protesters started chanting SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, SUPPORT OUR TROOPS! I joined their chant, but amended to SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, BRING THEM HOME! Pretty soon all those around me joined in, and we drowned them out.

I was never so sad and ashamed of my country 4 days later when Shock & Awe was launched against Iraq, but I never blamed the enlisted men and women of our armed forces. This war was a crime against international law, against the people of Iraq, and also against Americans in uniform who put their trust in their country's leaders and were sent to kill and be killed for lies, greed, and the ambition of delusional neoconservatives.

I have not forgotten, but I fear the American people will not learn any lesson from this tragic and very costly crime.

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