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Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:44 PM Jan 2014

How does a Super Bowl end up in the cold north, in New Jersey? Politics?

Just wondering and this seems the place to pose the question. Is there a political dimension to this, Republicans working the Christie 2016 campaign, ????

I got just questions, no answers, because I was just surprised to notice this is really supposed to happen in the cold insteasd of sunny south? Why and who did that?

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How does a Super Bowl end up in the cold north, in New Jersey? Politics? (Original Post) Coyotl Jan 2014 OP
It certainly isn't unprecedented that it be in the "shitty north" PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #1
Detroit and Indianapolis were both in domed/roofed stadiums. FarCenter Jan 2014 #6
I know. But that wasn't part of the OP's gripe. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #9
Yes it is. The Detroit and Minneapolis Super Bowls were in domes RB TexLa Jan 2014 #10
The lack of a dome was not part of the OP's gripe. PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #11
The other concern is for the attendees. riqster Jan 2014 #18
You should consider road conditions too. Motown_Johnny Jan 2014 #26
The NYC/ NJ area has a lot of transit options. riqster Jan 2014 #27
True, but in general, for northern Superbowls. Motown_Johnny Jan 2014 #28
Super Bowl locations are chosen years in advance. n/t tammywammy Jan 2014 #2
Because it's about time football was played in a realistic environment? riqster Jan 2014 #3
+1 LibGranny Jan 2014 #14
Yes!! pipi_k Jan 2014 #21
THANK YOU. WorseBeforeBetter Jan 2014 #24
Because football is great in the cold and weather edhopper Jan 2014 #4
How MetLife Stadium scored Super Bowl 2014, bringing the big game to N.J.: jsr Jan 2014 #5
Here are the details on the city selection process for this game: PeaceNikki Jan 2014 #7
Great info. The "voting process by the league owners" may be a misnomer. Of team owners? Coyotl Jan 2014 #13
The NFL ruling body in non-profit. edhopper Jan 2014 #15
That cold game at Tulane was supposed to take place at the Superdome. Morning Dew Jan 2014 #22
Not true. Tulane Stadium was the planned host for Super Bowl VI NoGOPZone Jan 2014 #33
You're right. My recollection failed me. :) Morning Dew Jan 2014 #37
Super Bowl location is determined four years in advance Cirque du So-What Jan 2014 #8
You build a stadium, you get a Super Bowl. A couple of years ago it was in Indianapolis, LeftyMom Jan 2014 #12
Because in the NFL, When you play football in the NFL rustydog Jan 2014 #16
Maybe people would rather visit New York. DemocraticWing Jan 2014 #17
The Super Bowl ought to be played in Green Bay meow2u3 Jan 2014 #19
do not expect green bay--not enough hotel rooms in the area dembotoz Jan 2014 #23
A Superbowl was played in Minneapolis in the 1990's tenderfoot Jan 2014 #20
Because the game was INVENTED in NJ brentspeak Jan 2014 #25
End of season football should be in cold weather. aikoaiko Jan 2014 #29
who cares as long as the lights stay on? NoGOPZone Jan 2014 #30
So stands a chance of being a hell of a lot more interesting. ileus Jan 2014 #31
The last twenty superbowls have all been played in the same place ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2014 #32
Are you saying it should never be in the north? NutmegYankee Jan 2014 #34
Crispe Creme comments on the halftime show - expect delays. Rex Jan 2014 #35
Isn't this their belated 9/11 game...? nt Wounded Bear Jan 2014 #36
 

RB TexLa

(17,003 posts)
10. Yes it is. The Detroit and Minneapolis Super Bowls were in domes
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:54 PM
Jan 2014

The two Super Bowls where there was weather issues were both in the south, here in Dallas and in Atlanta. Atlanta has never been considered for another Super Bowl after their handling of the weather issues with theirs.

I for one am for playing the game in the elements. I think if there is a blizzard you play. Football is supposed to be played rain, snow or shine. But the problem is games played in heavy rain or snow don't show up as well on television. That is the real concern for the NFL.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
18. The other concern is for the attendees.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:42 PM
Jan 2014

Most Super Bowl tickets go to the rich and famous, and they like their comfort.

About time those scum balls tasted some cold and damp. The few real fans in attendance won't mind a bit.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
26. You should consider road conditions too.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:11 PM
Jan 2014

When it was played here in Detroit, we had one hell of a snowstorm.

The roads would have been bad enough even without Superbowl traffic.



I am not against northern region Superbowls, but I do think safety of the people traveling there (including workers) should be a consideration.


 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
28. True, but in general, for northern Superbowls.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:21 PM
Jan 2014

I think they even have trains running right into the stadium. That would be my choice.


riqster

(13,986 posts)
3. Because it's about time football was played in a realistic environment?
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:51 PM
Jan 2014

Speaking as a Snow Belt native, I am glad to see the Super Bowl held in real football weather.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
21. Yes!!
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:54 PM
Jan 2014

Football isn't golf or tennis.

It's meant to be played in the elements.

I love rainy/snowy games.


Some of the most memorable games have been played in torrential rains and raging blizzards.

edhopper

(33,556 posts)
4. Because football is great in the cold and weather
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:51 PM
Jan 2014

Playoff games in Green Bay or Chicago are fine and can be really fun. Why not here in the Northeast.
This ain't the Pro-Bowl. It's how football is supposed to be.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
7. Here are the details on the city selection process for this game:
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:53 PM
Jan 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XLVIII#Host_selection_process

Host selection process


MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey was selected to host Super Bowl XLVIII.
Three stadiums were part of the bidding to host the game:
MetLife Stadium—East Rutherford, New Jersey[8]
Raymond James Stadium—Tampa, Florida[9]
Sun Life Stadium—Miami Gardens, Florida[10][11]

Tampa has hosted four Super Bowls (XVIII, XXV, XXXV, XLIII). South Florida / Miami has hosted ten Super Bowls (II, III, V, X, XIII, XXIII, XXIX, XXXIII, XLI, and XLIV).

During the voting process by the league owners, the South Florida/Miami bid was eliminated in the second round of voting, but it eventually took the fourth round of voting for New Jersey's bid to beat Tampa's.[4]

Super Bowl XLVIII will be the first Super Bowl held at an open-air stadium in a "cold-weather" city; previous Super Bowls in cold-weather cities were held at indoor stadiums. The coldest outdoor Super Bowl of the first 47 games was Super Bowl VI, held at Tulane Stadium in New Orleans on January 16, 1972, with a kickoff temperature of 39 °F (4 °C).[12] However, New Orleans usually has a humid subtropical climate, with January morning lows averaging around 46 °F (8 °C) and daily highs around 63 °F (17 °C);[13] also, all New Orleans Super Bowls since XII have been played at the indoor Superdome. Since Super Bowl X in 1976, all but one outdoor Super Bowl has been played in either California or Florida, the exception being Super Bowl XXX in Tempe, Arizona. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has indicated that if Super Bowl XLVIII is successful, additional "cold-weather" Super Bowls will be considered.[4][14]

Super Bowl XLVIII will be the first NFL championship game to be held in the New York metropolitan area since December 30, 1962, when the Green Bay Packers beat the New York Giants in the original Yankee Stadium, 16–7. Since then, two other major pro football leagues have held title games in the area:
1968 AFL Championship Game at Shea Stadium, December 29, 1968: New York Jets 27, Oakland Raiders 23—a rematch of the infamous "Heidi Game." The Jets went on to Super Bowl III, where they upset the Baltimore Colts, 16–7.

1985 USFL Championship Game at Giants Stadium, July 14, 1985: Baltimore Stars 28, Oakland Invaders 24. This game would turn out to be the final contest in the league's three-year history, since an attempt to move the spring/summer USFL to a fall schedule in 1986 was aborted after the USFL was awarded just $1 (tripled to $3) in its 1986 antitrust case against the NFL.

New York City was scheduled to host Super Bowl XLIV upon the completion of the proposed West Side Stadium. When the stadium proposal was rejected, Sun Life Stadium was selected to host the game instead.

MetLife Stadium will be the first Super Bowl venue which is simultaneously home to two NFL teams: the New York Giants and the New York Jets, and thus will be the first championship game to have two host teams. The Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum (which hosted Super Bowls I and VII) was the home of the Los Angeles Rams and the Los Angeles Raiders, but not at the same time.
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
13. Great info. The "voting process by the league owners" may be a misnomer. Of team owners?
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:08 PM
Jan 2014

The NFL is a non-profit, right?

I know near zip about football.

edhopper

(33,556 posts)
15. The NFL ruling body in non-profit.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:18 PM
Jan 2014

The profit goes to the individual teams, which have the most egalitarian revenue sharing in all of sports.
Big and small markets all share equally in ticket sales and TV money. (I believe on merchandize is exempt)
Other sports would be better off if they did the same.

You do know zip.

Morning Dew

(6,539 posts)
22. That cold game at Tulane was supposed to take place at the Superdome.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:01 PM
Jan 2014

Construction delays sent the game to Tulane instead.

NoGOPZone

(2,971 posts)
33. Not true. Tulane Stadium was the planned host for Super Bowl VI
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:42 PM
Jan 2014

and the temp was under forty, the coldest to date. Super Bowl IX was the one that got moved to Tulane Stadium because the Superdome wasn't ready, temp was mid forties

Cirque du So-What

(25,923 posts)
8. Super Bowl location is determined four years in advance
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:53 PM
Jan 2014

and if it's held up north, it's supposed to be in a domed stadium, so maybe there's something to your supposition.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
12. You build a stadium, you get a Super Bowl. A couple of years ago it was in Indianapolis,
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:03 PM
Jan 2014

also because they built a new stadium.

rustydog

(9,186 posts)
16. Because in the NFL, When you play football in the NFL
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:21 PM
Jan 2014

The NFL decides whoever plays in the NFL's Super bowl ,must play in the NFL's choice of where the NFL super bowl will be held.

Did I say the NFL-required number of NFL's?

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
17. Maybe people would rather visit New York.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:38 PM
Jan 2014

Better than Dallas and Indianapolis for sure. Football's an outdoor sport anyway.

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
23. do not expect green bay--not enough hotel rooms in the area
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:04 PM
Jan 2014

as it is--opposing teams do not stay in green bay.
the trouble with being in the smallest market is that you are in the smallest market

would be coo though

the dream ticket would be miami vs tampa bay....

you could make a movie with a set up like that.

brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
25. Because the game was INVENTED in NJ
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:08 PM
Jan 2014
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1869_New_Jersey_vs._Rutgers_football_game

I can't understand people who seem perplexed and outraged that the Superbowl isn't played in some sterile arena located in some good-ol-boy Southern state or a completely boring dome in the midwest, as if the sport is exclusive to those regions and must be played in those soulless settings. The game was never meant to be played in a dome, anyways. And it is a northeastern-invented sport!

NoGOPZone

(2,971 posts)
30. who cares as long as the lights stay on?
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:28 PM
Jan 2014

Having a new stadium does seem to be a plus, the NFL must love having luxury boxes to sell

ileus

(15,396 posts)
31. So stands a chance of being a hell of a lot more interesting.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:30 PM
Jan 2014

Cold is okay, but cold and snow would make for a great super bowl.

Everything doesn't have to be political...

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,336 posts)
32. The last twenty superbowls have all been played in the same place ...
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:38 PM
Jan 2014

... on a television in the front room.

I don't know that it makes any difference to me, attending a superbowl is not in my budget.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
34. Are you saying it should never be in the north?
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:44 PM
Jan 2014

It is played every February, which is the height of winter.

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