Veteran CBS host laughs in Cruz’s face after he repeatedly denies shutting down government

[kpete]

“The question I asked you was, would you ever conceive of trying to shut down the government again?” Schieffer pressed, clearly not buying in to the alternate reality.

“As I said, I didn’t threaten to shut down the government the last time,” Cruz insisted. “I don’t think we should ever shut down the government. And I repeatedly voted…”

“Well,” Schieffer interrupted, laughing out of frustration. “If you didn’t threaten to shut down the government, who was it that did?”

“President Obama,” Cruz said.

MORE plus video:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/26/veteran-cbs-host-laughs-in-cruzs-face-after-he-repeatedly-denies-shutting-down-government/

[elleng]

1. Thanks, kp,

we need all the 'laughs' we can get.

[mucifer]

2. the more Cruz repeats the lies the more the republican voters will believe him.

It totally sucks.

[LiberalLovinLug]

74. That's the part that's not so funny

There should be some scientific study on this phenomenon. Republicans know they can rely on their sheeple to stand by whatever they say no matter what. It could be a complete 180 from the previous day, makes no difference.

It doesn't matter even if their is video evidence. This pathetic tactic has almost single-handedly kept The Daily Show going with material. (But wingnuts won't watch Jon Stewart of course because FOX tells them not to)

This phenom is what will have Chris Christie bounce back like a giant beach ball. He's a victim after all, of the liberal media. Its an attack on American Family Values, when they accuse him of lying. Almost as bad as the War on Christmas.

Its why a Con like Rob Ford in Toronto might even get re-elected. His rabid supporters still believe it was the Toronto Star reporters that had it in for him who were the most responsible and they lied about seeing some crack video. He's just a normal guy like them who likes to blow off steam once in awhile which gets overblown by a vindictive media with a liberal agenda.

But it all sucks because it means progressives will always have to play with a disadvantage. We are too stubborn and smart and want the truth no matter what. So if Obama does something we don't like we shout about it, even if it makes him look bad. (no apologies here) Whereas Republican supporters turn to FOX or Rush etc. and wait for them to tell them not to worry, its actually all the other sides fault. AND THEY ALWAYS BELIEVE IT. Mostly because they can't handle the fact that they may just have been taken for fools. (which they are)

[elleng]

3. Smug asshole liar

is one of those, with that style, who garners t-bugger's support.

Schieffer did well.

[SomeGuyInEagan]

40. That's how the game works. Dems could use some of his arrogance.

Lie or not, he sticks to his guns and it gets him in the media.

Seriously, we need some big talking, big swinging, get in their face, ass kicking Dems with this kind of arrogance. I am tired of playing defense and acting as if we are dealing with ethical, logical, thoughtful people ... we aren't.

[elleng]

43. I agree we need big talking, swinging, get in face, ass kicking Dems;

arrogance, not so much, imo. Right, NO playing defense, as they are not ethical, logical, thoughtful. Problems dealing with them for Dems.

[Submariner]

82. We have Elizabeth Warren and Alan Grayson

who are close to what you describe, but they get massacred by right wing hate blogs, etc.

Warren is still the fake indian Liawatha to the Centerfold Scottie supporters in Mass.

[elleng]

83. But they've won,

and I hope will continue to do so. I expect we progressives won't allow Elizabeth Warren to be defeated. Not sure about the control we'll have over Grayson, who comes up every 2 years.

[awoke_in_2003]

90. And they get ignored by our "media". nt

[3catwoman3]

45. You took the words...

...right out of my keyboard. I will have to settle for "insufferable, arrogant prick."

[elleng]

46. With you, catwoman!

[Barack_America]

4. ...and then blatantly admits he'll hold government hostage AGAIN.

If he doesn't get something in return for voting to raise the debt ceiling.

Unbelievable.

[dixiegrrrrl]

5. Cruz actually said Obama did it?

they really believe in the playbook of the big liem, don't they?
Amazing.

and sadly, often it works.

[demigoddess]

23. they are essentially saying that

when Obama doesn't give us every single thing we want, and we shut down the government to punish him, it is Obama's fault for not giving us every single thing we want. I speak republican stupid.

[SummerSnow]

28. So lets call it Stupidspeak, sounds fitting.

[dixiegrrrrl]

35. "you made me hit you"

The batterer's defense..
got it.

[FiveGoodMen]

66. That's it, exactly!

But a quarter to a third of US citizens seem to be the kind of psychopaths that will always take that side.

[elleng]

44. Yes, have been playing the big lie for decades;

got it from goebbels: If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/goebbelslie.html

[nxylas]

72. It's not just Cruz

That's the standard talking point across the wingnutosphere. I don't know if it even originated from Cruz, most likely he's just staying on-message.

[AzDar]

6. Pretty sure Cruz is insane.

I think he really believes his own bullshit.

[etherealtruth]

7. He may ver well be insane

Sadly, the teabaggers are imbeciles and will believe his crazed ramblings

[Barack_America]

8. It's not sanity he lacks. It's integrity.

[etherealtruth]

9. Possibly both (no question he lacks integrity)

... legitimate question whether he is in touch with reality.

In seriousness ... he is sane, probably intelligent and totally devoid of integrity and humanity

[The Wielding Truth]

31. Legitimate question? Shouldn't the question have been, "Don't you know that not paying our debt

will not save us money?"

To put any strings or holds on paying our debt that has already been accrued will only cost us.

If we wish to save money and improve the US economy, then we must get more money in circulation by raising minimum wage increasing food stamps, promoting national production for better trade, and stopping the give away of tax revenues to profit abundant companies and individual billionaires. We should not let our natural resources be plundered by unregulated reckless tycoons and we must must remember that if we promise to pay for things we bought on credit our word is our bond.

Am I right or is the RW correct to tie our debtors to our future spending?
I think they are twisting the issue again.

Anyone who hears this nonsense should straighten them out!

[hfojvt]

12. neither of them are insane on this

just fighting for their point of view.

Obama - pass a budget with Obamacare funded
Cruz - I will only allow a budget without Obamacare funded.

It's no more valid to say that Cruz caused the shutdown by not giving in to Obama

than it is to say that Obama caused the shutdown by not giving in to Cruz.

It depends which side you are fighting on, and how you feel about Obamacare and/or the legislative process.

We blame Cruz because we wanted him to give in to Obama. They blame Obama, or Reid, because they wanted Obama and Reid, to give in to Cruz.

[Major Nikon]

17. I disagree

Cruz wasn't legitimately using the legislative process. ACA wasn't part of the bill Cruz and Boehner were blocking. Cruz was blocking the yearly discretionary funding bill that ACA had little to nothing to do with. The ACA was already legislated and signed law which included it's own funding. The only way Cruz could stop ACA was to pass another law through both houses with either a presidential signature or a veto proof majority in the Senate.

So it really has nothing to do with which side of the issue you're on. It has to do with whether you think one house of congress should be able to obstruct nearly the whole of government as leverage to overturn an issue that had already been legislated and settled without having to go through the legitimate legislative process required to do so. Even the majority of Republicans, most of which were on the other side of ACA, did not believe that.

[A Simple Game]

19. You don't seem to understand that Obamacare is law, no if, ands, or buts.

Obamacare is law and President Obama can not get rid of it, Congress has to do that. You can try to blame Senator Reid, but there is no way President Obama is to blame for the Republicans not getting rid of Obamacare. Obamacare is law and by law must be funded.

[Bjorn Against]

20. That is a load of bullshit

You can not pretend that this is a simple matter of perspective, Obama was asking for a clean bill and Cruz was demanding the repeal of a law that had already been passed in exchange for keeping the government running.

Cruz does not have the votes in the Senate to repeal Obamacare nor can he expect Obama to sign such a repeal. The voters gave control of the White House and the Senate to Democrats and therefore Cruz is not going to get everything he wants, but to shut down the government because he does not have the votes to get what he wants is not acceptable.

You are using a dishonest false equivalence, no surprise coming from you however.

[Ikonoklast]

27. The ACA was already passed into law. What Cruz wanted was a repeal of that law.

Since he couldn't get the Congress to repeal the ACA through legislative action, Cruz held the government budget hostage.

And then blamed it on the president as being his fault.

How could President Obama repeal a settled law?


Cruz got gullible people to agree with him.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

60. And why would/should be repeal a law that he championed?

Cruz was making a wholly unrealistic demand on President Obama and the Democrats in Congress. Plus, the polling has never indicated a clear desire to repeal the law nor does the public universally hate the law, only parts of it. The more people get insurance via ACA and feel the benefits, the fewer people will want it repealed. The Republicans may win some skirmishes but they have effectively lost the war.

[LuvLoogie]

30. That, sir, is a crock of shit.

[edhopper]

33. Wow

if you did not have over 30,000 post, I would think you were a troll.

[Drew Richards]

48. You need to be more subtle your agenda is showing...

[noiretextatique]

58. i will add to the chorus: bullshit!

Cruz is a Koch tool.

[LanternWaste]

65. It's no more valid to say that he caused the domestic assault on his wife...

"It's no more valid to say that Cruz caused the shutdown by not giving in to Obama than it is to say that Obama caused the shutdown by not giving in to Cruz. "


"It's no more valid to say that he caused the domestic assault on his wife by not giving in to to his wife than it is to say that his wife caused the domestic assault by not giving in to her husband... "




Six of one, half a dozen of the other-- insert distinction without a difference here.

[niyad]

67. wow-thanks. I realllly need the laughs today.

[Barack_America]

68. Only if you think launching an assault on our constitution is valid.

Which is what Cruz did. Don't forget the legitimacy of our debt is constitutionally protected.

But the bigger hypocrisy here is Cruz claiming he didn't lead a government shutdown, which he unquestioningly did.

[hfojvt]

73. I like facts, and information

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/149

[Iggo]

91. False.

[Major Nikon]

13. I don't know if he believes it or not

However, I think he believes many others will believe it and that's really the only thing that matters.

Cruz isn't stupid even though he often says and does stupid things. He's just fully understands and exploits the stupidity of his constituents. He's not like W who genuinelly was dumb as a stump.

[DhhD]

62. Brainwashing techniques used by Cruz: say it 7 times to make it a learned procedure/thought.

A repeated procedure becomes a routine/accepted thought; therefore, a practice. Cruz uses what I call, chaos switching techniques, to form multiple mindsets that are unrelated as a, forgetting, technique. To me, Cruz is a protostomic thinker-compares opposites-a sidewinder on both sides of the hexagramic poll.

[LuvNewcastle]

70. The GOP has been doing that for the last 30 years.

That's how they convinced so many people that supply-side economics works. People have been conditioned to believe that the government can't work, and Republicans have worked hard to make sure that it doesn't work.

You need to start a thread about brainwashing techniques and how some people in government use it. You're far more knowledgeable about it than I am. It's a complicated, confusing subject, but I think a lot more people need to know about it so they can spot it when certain people use it in media and government. If more people learn about this shit, I think we'll see a turning point in this war that's being waged on the people.

[jmowreader]

10. I could never be a Sunday morning talk show host

Halfway through that interview I would have beaten Ted Cruz to death with a large blunt object.

[AAO]

24. It's easier to destroy him with facts and logic

But these talk hosts don't know shit from shinola!

[Boomerproud]

11. Lies! Damned Lies!

I can't take it anymore.

[Jack Rabbit]

14. De Nile isn't just a river in Egypt

Since I believe that Senator Cruz, unlike most Tea Partiers, is too intelligent to believe his own rhetoric, then I assume that he's in denial about the effect it's having on American voters.

Bring it on, Tea Party Teddy. Bring it on.

[El_Johns]

15. God hates liars, Teddy.

[SoapBox]

16. How Christian of him to lie to all of us.

How Holy and Pious.

Asshole.

[kairos12]

18. He never gets off message and nobody seems to pin him down.

[Coyotl]

84. He's only there to say what he wants to say, so keep the questions short and stupid.

And just let him crucify himself.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. Perhaps never uttered "shut down the government" as a threat, but Cruz knew what he was doing.

To deny that he shut down the government, or at least tried to take credit, is disingenuous at best, but everyone who is even half-aware knows that he was happy it shut down.

[PeoViejo]

22. The end justifies the means

and a lie is just a valid means to the end that Cruz is fighting for. Lies are just another tool for the GOP kit.

God is on their side, right?

[freshwest]

25. A crazy relative at the time claimed that Obama was *unreasonable* and Obama was at fault, trying to

cut off her disabled husband and her VA benefits!!!1111!!!!

Yes, the lies work so well. And yes, she's in Texas. I had to get off the phone for my sanity.

Now she is retired and on Medicare and loving Democratic socialism. She will probably still vote GOP.

I've posted her epic rants from Glennbeckistan at DU. It would be funny if she wasn't a Bagger.

[sheshe2]

53. ...

[MADem]

26. The child with the chocolate stained face and fingers, standing over the broken cookie jar,

trying to blame an absent sibling for his crime!

It's called chutzpah, and Canadian Cruz has enough of it to float a boat!

[Taitertots]

29. The existence of people so ignorant that they believe him is a threat to our democracy

His whole argument is that Obama caused the shutdown by refusing to concede to their demands.

[MyNameGoesHere]

32. Ok I don't know why we are still interviewing this Canadian.

I mean no offense to Canadians, although I will never forgive you for Celine and Justin, but can't you guys get your citizens under control?

[Thinkingabout]

34. Yep, Cruz blames Obama with the shutdown but at the time he was telling the House

Members to be strong and not blink. When Obamacare is up and running the same type of asshole will change the name to CruzCare.

[mountain grammy]

36. If Cruz looks like Joe McCarthy, talks like Joe McCarthy and walks like Joe McCarthy

he just may be Joe McCarthy. He's just babbling bullshit now. I don't think he smart or sane. He's just as ignorant and crazy as his nutty preacher father.

[demwing]

88. He does not look anything like Joe McCarthy

he does, however, remind me a bit of Charlie McCarthy:



In the sense that Cruz is just a dumb puppet with someone's hand up his ass, controlling the flapping of his mouth and filling in all the right words in all the right places.

[mountain grammy]

89. hahaha very good! But Charlie McCarthy was funny

I guess Cruz is too, in a sick kind of way, but that picture of him sure is.

[L0oniX]

37. Elected crazy person getting paycheck from the gov ...what could go wrong.

[TheCowsCameHome]

38. The sad thing is, this nitwit actually believes himself.

Jesus H, where do these people come from?

[TRoN33]

39. Whoa!

People are literally laughing at Ted Cruz when he said he never want a government shutdown. Ted Cruz is literally being mocked from left and right for his role being against America and what this nation stands for.

It's officially, Ted Cruz is a national joke. Republicans must be very proud of him!

[spanone]

41. lying shows the true inner character of this piece of shit.

[KauaiK]

42. Cruz is delusional with a messianic ego

That he is in a position of power is frightening

[Frustratedlady]

47. I suspect Cruz has serious mental problems.

That is simply an ignorant point to try to pull off when he has been recorded time and time again.

I don't think Canada would even accept his return.

[Cha]

49. Forgive me..

Fuckin' A!

[sheshe2]

52. I just had to clean off my computer...

I could not help myself, I spit in his face as he sat there and lied.

Seriously, I did Cha!

[Cha]

55. Wow.. that's absolutely

why I don't watch that kind of thing, she. I was damn near apoplectic in 2002 when I dropped corporatemedia of any kind. I couldn't handle them saying stuff on tv that I knew wasn't true or building a "narrative" to gel with the message they wanted to push.

That's why someone pushing back on cruz is so deliriously happy inducing! And, Bob Scheiffer of all pundits.. even he couldn't take it.

“Senator, I know what Republicans were telling me — like [House Speaker] John Boehner — that this was a disaster and never again,” Schieffer shot back, frustrated but also clearly amused at the senator’s talking points."

"Lying" point.

Slimy piece of fascist shit.

What!?! Sorry, she..

[sheshe2]

56. Bob Scheiffer, did good!

I tend to rant a bit myself these days, sooooo much stupid so little time, Cha.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

61. I was waiting to see the smoke from his pants at any time.

Wonder where he found asbestos pants to match his suits at?

[sheshe2]

79. Specialty shop in West Texas, would be my guess.

One that is know for outfitting the Teabaggers, LFR.

[dixiegrrrrl]

77. I admire your restraint

Back in the 70's, when I was very young, I threw an ashtray at the tv because Nixon's face was all over the screen, lying his ass off.
The man gave me waves of revulsion, just to look at him.

Poor child groom came home from work and simply could not understand what being cooped up in a house all day with 2 kids and then having to look at Nixon could do to a woman.
but he promptly went out and bought another tv, a newer one, so I figured it was a win-win deal.

I am afraid I did put the ex thru some changes......

[sheshe2]

78. :) Thanks dixiegrrrrl~

Wow! An ashtray in Nixon's face and right through the screen! Good arm!!!!! I must admit the spittle dripping down his face worked well for me, and I can't afford a new computer!

[pacalo]

50. Call it the way it is: It was a blackmail tactic & Obama stood up to them.

Congress created the financial mess with their expensive knee-jerk wars & now they're wanting to force Obama to inflict the financial blowback on the most vulnerable citizens.

[madamesilverspurs]

51. Listening gear...

[kiranon]

54. Sen. Cruz is extremely dangerous. He lies with impunity and is

very smart. He knows exactly what he is doing. His fellow Republicans need to out him for who he truly is or they will rue the day that they didn't. He is a dictator in the making. IMHO.

[Cha]

57. I want this to come back and BITE his Sociopathic

a$$. Where would these assholes be without corporatemedia inviting them on

I thank Bob Schieffer for laughing at him and correcting him. Kinda like VP Biden did to Eddie Muenster.

thanks kp

[Quixote1818]

59. Why don't they ever remind Cruz that Congress sets the budget in the fucking first place

Don't vote it through if you don't like it and once it's been set we have a legal obligation to pay our fucking bills.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

63. Wolf would play along.

[Dash87]

64. Only a major asshole would be the lead proponent of something, and then

disavow knowledge of it and blame it on someone else when it goes bad. What an utter tool!

[Barack_America]

69. "I didn't do it, but I'll do it again".

To summarize this interview.

Major asshole indeed. If you're going to pull this shit, at least have the integrity to stand behind your actions.

[90-percent]

71. Question

Won't the BIG TRUTH defeat the BIG LIE every single time?

I'd rather be fighting on the side of truth and facts and reason than have to make my case based on lies!

-90% Jimmy

[pansypoo53219]

75. NOT A LAUGHING MATTER. just call the fucker a lier.

[mdbl]

85. or at least say "Have you no shame Sen Cruz?"

[Gothmog]

76. Carnival Cruz is a nut case

I do not think that Cruz realizes that people are laughing at him when he makes this claim

[czarjak]

80. Senator Puchita

An Hispanic white supremacist. Good one Teddy.

[LuckyLib]

81. Just once, I'd like to hear "that's not the way

it played out, Senator. Surely you recall that you said .. ."

Followed by "why can't you own up to what you said and did??"

[decrepittex]

86. It never ceases to amaze me

how Republicans can continually deny their involvement in the government shutdown. Even their own Speaker of the House said it was his own party who did it. Yet just a few days ago a friend I was talking to, a Republican, was bitching about Obama shutting down the government. I asked him if he really believed it was Obama and not Ted Cruz and the Teaparty/Republicans. Now he thinks I'm a biased Democrat, which I suppose I am. Actually I'm a former Ind. who no longer even considers voting for anyone with a R by his name. Do they not listen or do they refuse to hear?

[blkmusclmachine]

87. To the history books! Revise!

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[yuiyoshida]

92. CRUZ IS clearly OUT OF TOUCH with Reality ...

Typical Tea bagger.