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riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 04:41 PM Jan 2014

More infants die on their birthdays in the US than any other industrialized nation in the world.

Astounding! Some very good research in this article. Read more , click on the link.

http://nomadicpolitics.blogspot.ca/2013/12/one-day-of-life-death-rate-among.html#more


A comparison between Sweden -which has one of the lowest rates of one-day old deaths-and the state of Mississippi- which has the highest rate of infant mortality in the US- might provide some clues at reducing the death rate among American's youngest and most vulnerable victims.

A report released last April by the organization, Save the Children, has exposed a troubling statistic:
“The United States has the highest first-day death rate in the industrialized world. An estimated 11,300 newborn babies die each year in the United States on the day they are born. This is 50 percent more first-day deaths than all other industrialized countries combined.”
More day-old babies die in the US than in 68 other countries, including Egypt, Turkey and Peru.
The study cited premature births as being one major cause. Globally, 35 percent of all newborns that die are pre-term. In the United States, this is also true.

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More infants die on their birthdays in the US than any other industrialized nation in the world. (Original Post) riverbendviewgal Jan 2014 OP
Sickening. nt SunSeeker Jan 2014 #1
AWFUL! elleng Jan 2014 #2
The article breezes by the largest actual reasons for this: prematurity and early c-sections, LeftyMom Jan 2014 #3
the War on Women truly exists and its front line causalities are the defenseless new born babies. riverbendviewgal Jan 2014 #5
You're just reposting parts of the same flawed blog post. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #8
Good points. One of the significant problems - truedelphi Jan 2014 #7
The US has substandard *midwives* LeftyMom Jan 2014 #10
Lack of good prenatal care is the root cause of our prematurity rates. Barack_America Jan 2014 #11
Yep Aerows Jan 2014 #18
+1 redqueen Jan 2014 #12
Or the converse Aerows Jan 2014 #17
The USA is one of the only nations in the world that REQUIRES truedelphi Jan 2014 #4
That is not even close to true. Only one vaccine is administered at birth. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #6
But note - that one vaccine is the very most significantly dangerous vaccine that is truedelphi Jan 2014 #14
Oh for Christ's sake. LeftyMom Jan 2014 #15
There you go again! This spiel of yours is almost word for truedelphi Jan 2014 #21
This may be helpful riverbendviewgal Jan 2014 #9
Listening to Wexler, who is sponsored by the Vaccine Industry-owned Fed government agencies truedelphi Jan 2014 #26
Here are the Canadian infant and childrens vaccinations schedules. riverbendviewgal Jan 2014 #29
The person I currently trust, Barbara Loe Fischer truedelphi Jan 2014 #28
So it's only lower-class children that are involved in unsafe sex practices? jeff47 Jan 2014 #30
This is why we can't have nice things. Gravitycollapse Jan 2014 #31
India, on the other hand, has 309,000 hfojvt Jan 2014 #13
Good points. riverbendviewgal Jan 2014 #16
Only fetuses matter to the Rabid Right nt LiberalEsto Jan 2014 #19
Interestingly you don't see "pro-life" people marching about that problem Major Nikon Jan 2014 #20
Pro Life Activists are not pro-welfare programs. warrant46 Jan 2014 #23
They aren't even pro-life Major Nikon Jan 2014 #24
Pro-Life people believe that women who want abortions had sex outside of marriage, thus LiberalArkie Jan 2014 #25
Abortion is a relevant medical procedure. Just ask Rick Santorum. Major Nikon Jan 2014 #27
I've heard these stats before, and YarnAddict Jan 2014 #22

elleng

(130,861 posts)
2. AWFUL!
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 04:46 PM
Jan 2014

My daughter gave birth December 12, everything's fine, but she visited the doc Friday for a check up and he told her it was a close one with her son, apparently due to position of umbilical for a time during delivery.

And my other daughter is due in July. More to worry about, I guess.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
3. The article breezes by the largest actual reasons for this: prematurity and early c-sections,
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:02 PM
Jan 2014

and differences in counting births. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130401074921.htm

Probably a small additional factor is that there's a certain amount of birth tourism to the US from countries where assisted reproductive technologies are very limited or forbidden, and these tend to be very high risk pregnancies.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
5. the War on Women truly exists and its front line causalities are the defenseless new born babies.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:11 PM
Jan 2014

The Mississippi Distinction
In 2010, the top five states with the highest infant mortality rates were:
Mississippi
Alabama
Tennessee
Ohio
Delaware
Indiana
Louisiana
Oklahoma
South Carolina
Arkansas
All but one of those states- Delaware- is solidly Republican. It would easy to write that off as a coincidence but it's worth a look at the state with the highest rate to see if we can learn anything.

Consensus in Sweden is in favour of preventing unwanted pregnancies by the use of birth control and the primary goal is not to lower the amount of abortions, but rather the goal is that all children that are born should be wanted. The number of abortions statistically follows the number of pregnancies.
The situation is very different in the US, where the Christian Right has fought to cut funding for realistic sex education (in favor of abstinence only programs) as well as limiting access to legal abortion.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
8. You're just reposting parts of the same flawed blog post.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:14 PM
Jan 2014

Of course planned pregnancies have better outcomes. But the biggest factor in antenatal death is prematurity, and you can't even compare statistics between countries that don't count their premature births by the same criteria.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
7. Good points. One of the significant problems -
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:13 PM
Jan 2014

The ratio of decent Ob/GYN practitioners as compared to those who are less skilled.

When I was pregnant, way back in 1974, a colleague of mine insisted that my GYN/OB guy was low ranking. She recommended that I see her GYN/OB doctor, and she arranged that his staff admit me.

The problem was this - my due date was June, and that doctor was booked solid until late August.

This is not a unique situation. And it has not gotten better since the mid-seventies, but worse.

So you have whole group of people who' re dealing with sub standard doctors, and also for the poorer people in our society, our nation's AMA has seen to it that midwives are not common.

So it is not surprising that so many poorer babies have problems.

In nations that have a higher ranking in infant's survival, mid wives are a given!

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
10. The US has substandard *midwives*
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:19 PM
Jan 2014

And I'm not anti-midwife, I saw a CNM but had to birth in hospital because I was postdates. However other countries train their midwives extensively in universities in evidence based practices and would not tolerate the half-educated lay midwives who are legal to practice in most of the US.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
11. Lack of good prenatal care is the root cause of our prematurity rates.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:21 PM
Jan 2014

Our nutrition and obesity epidemic also plays a significant role.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
18. Yep
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:30 PM
Jan 2014

Other industrialized nations have universal, affordable health care. Here in the US, many women simply can't afford to go to the doctor.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
17. Or the converse
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:29 PM
Jan 2014

In which women in other industrialized countries have access to medical care because their countries have universal health care, and women don't put it off because they can't afford to go to the doctor.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
4. The USA is one of the only nations in the world that REQUIRES
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:04 PM
Jan 2014

newborn infants to receive at least half a dozen vaccines on the day they are born!

Often the parents are not even informed that the hospital's "Well Baby Clinic" will include these vaccinations.

Anyone looking into the concept of the hepatitis vaccine understands this is ridiculous!

A top world statistician, Michael Belkin, ran the numbers of the hepatitis vaccine and he found out that the dangers of the vaccine were some 3.5 times greater than any benefits.

The dangers of this vaccine include paralysis, DEATH, migraine, headaches, digestive issues, skin problems such as eczema, etc. Mr Belkin lost his four month old baby as he held her on his lap, after she had received one of the hep vaccine series.

My physician wouldn't let me have the hep vaccine when I was 43 years old, so I can only imagine the insanity of doing this to newborns.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
14. But note - that one vaccine is the very most significantly dangerous vaccine that is
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:25 PM
Jan 2014

Given!

Originally, this vaccine was supposed to be provided to kids who were twelve years old.

And suddenly Big Pharma decided that rather than making the hep vaccine a required vaccine for pre-high schoolers, this had to become mandatory for infants!

Why? Liability, Sherlock, liability issues. After all, almost every 12 year old in our society has court admissible PROOF that the child has developed normally. Parents have videos of their child rolling over at five mos, and blowing out the candles at two years, and of playing soccer or participating in a spelling bee. When that 12 yr old child becomes paralyzed immediately following a hep vaccine, the parents can expect a settlement from the court.

But what can a parent of a newborn do? The infant is an unknown - maybe it was just born with malfunctioning system, the hospital admin will explain to parents.

And the amount of subterfuge employed by the hospitals when an infant is harmed by vaccines is reminiscent of the old Soviet Union. Even Michael Belkin, whose status as a world class Wall Street genius gave him a leg up in terms of what happened to his family after the baby was killed, he has never gotten the paper work on the information concerning his daughter's death.

Other parents, who aren't in a "Who's Who" of prominent Americans are actually charged with "shaken baby" syndrome, and indicted and prosecuted with murder charges, as the brain swelling that occurs is identical, whether the cause is vaccine injury or the parental abuse known as shaken baby syndrome.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
15. Oh for Christ's sake.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:28 PM
Jan 2014

I'm not going to argue with you because you're obviously working with different facts on your planet.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
21. There you go again! This spiel of yours is almost word for
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:38 PM
Jan 2014

Word the answer I was given to my complaints about cigarette smoke in the 1970's.

Even after suffering a miscarriage after having to deal with the toxic atmosphere of America's corporate accounting firms in the 1970's, I was still told that if I thought that cig smoke was dangerous to me, as a non-smoker, I probably believed in little green men from Mars!

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
9. This may be helpful
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:15 PM
Jan 2014
http://shotofprevention.com/2010/05/06/why-infants-should-receive-the-hepatitis-b-vaccine-at-birth/


One of the issues that Deborah Wexler, from the Immunization Action Coalition, addresses is that many of those who become infected with the hepatitis B virus contract the disease from their unknowingly infected mother at birth. Dr. Wexler explains, “There are so many parents and healthcare professionals who think this vaccine is wrongly given at birth for an STD that might be acquired later in life. But the most important reason for it is to prevent HBV infection early in life with the possible life-long complications of chronic disease in the form of liver failure and liver cancer that affect so many who are infected at birth. I wish this message were more broadly disseminated, but it is a difficult message to discuss due to its complexity, the need to explain how medical errors might occur and why testing isn’t infallible, or how exposures could occur in an infant.”


truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
26. Listening to Wexler, who is sponsored by the Vaccine Industry-owned Fed government agencies
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:27 PM
Jan 2014

When she is not being sponsored directly by the Vaccine Industries, is like listening to Phillip Morris "scientists" on the cig isue.

Or like listening to Nancy Balzer on the MTBE issue. Balzer, a "highly acclaimed" scientist on the MTBE issue, was totally proven wrong on that issue, when John Froines' state of California approved panel of experts ruled MTBE to be extemely detrimental to human health. Balzer did not even know that when under combustion, MTBE is converted into formaldehyde. This would be equivalent to a "coffee expert" not knowing that coffee contains caffeine!

Of course, when real science flies in the face of industry expected profits, someone has to pay. In the case of MTBE, Gov Davis was recalled for not giving the Energy Industry some more "persuadable" scientists than the ones he appointed.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
29. Here are the Canadian infant and childrens vaccinations schedules.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:47 PM
Jan 2014

My children were vaccinated and there wer no problems.
I am sure there are exceptions.

http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/im/ptimprog-progimpt/table-1-eng.php

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
28. The person I currently trust, Barbara Loe Fischer
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:46 PM
Jan 2014

ioffer up the explanation about Wexler:

According to Barbara Loe Fischer, president of the non-profit National Vaccine Information Center, the Voices for Vaccines board is rounded out by another advisor (Stanley A. Plotkin) who is a vaccine developer, and two others, Alan R. Hinman and Deborah L. Wexler, with significant ties to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

That last connection isn’t as innocuous as it might sound: As Maine-based M.D. and public-health blogger Meryl Nass explains, the pharmaceutical industry “funds CDC through the conduit CDC Foundation”; in turn, CDC funds the Immunization Action Coalition, another pro-vaccination advocacy group. (Voices for Vaccines advisor Wexler also heads the IAC.)

What we hav ein America is a revolving door process that sees to it that only an internally screend group of "scientists" gets to aprticipate in the studies themselfes, or announcing the studies themselves.

BTW I am not an "Anti-VAXXER. I vaccinated my child for those vaccines where the risk to benefit made sense.

The Hep vaccine was not yet formulated, an d had it been, he would not have received it, since hepatitis occurs when

One) The mother is infected with hepatitis, and passes it in utero to their child (A situation he did not face)

Two) The individual uses dirty needles through their drug habit (A situation that I, like most parents, didn't encourage my two year old to be involved with!)

Three) An individual is involved in unsafe sex practices, again a situation my middle class child was not involved in.

I was lucky that he came into the world when the 'recommendations" were for only nine vaccines a year. Now a days, infants not even a year old are supposed to have over 22 vaccines before their first birthday!

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
30. So it's only lower-class children that are involved in unsafe sex practices?
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 10:25 PM
Jan 2014
Three) An individual is involved in unsafe sex practices, again a situation my middle class child was not involved in.



I was lucky that he came into the world when the 'recommendations" were for only nine vaccines a year. Now a days, infants not even a year old are supposed to have over 22 vaccines before their first birthday!

You can claim to be an anti-vaxxer all you'd like. But when you use anti-vaxxer arguments, you demonstrate that you are one.

Tip your head back, open your mouth, and inhale. You were just exposed to a few thousand different disease-causing organisms. 22 vaccines over a year is nothing compared to what that child was exposed to merely by existing. Even if you bleach the hell out of your house.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
13. India, on the other hand, has 309,000
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:23 PM
Jan 2014

Our rate is 3 per 1,000 live births. India's rate is 11 per 1,000 live births. The rate is highest in Somalia at 18 per 1,000. Congo, Mali and Sierra Leone follow closely at 17. In Somalia, mortality before the age of 5 is 180 per 1,000 births. In the US it is 8, in Egypt it is 21, Turkey 15, Peru 18. In Bahrain it is 10 even though their first day death rate is only 1 per 1,000.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
23. Pro Life Activists are not pro-welfare programs.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:44 PM
Jan 2014

Pro Life activists are not pro-welfare programs. Pro Life activists are not pro-school lunches. They’re not pro-food stamps, pro-funding foster care or pro-taking-care-of-children-after-they’re-born. . But the Pro Life activists are laser focused on life until it becomes viable—then that “life” becomes a lazy taker and part of the 47 percent “who believe that they are entitled to health care.”

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
24. They aren't even pro-life
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:08 PM
Jan 2014

"Pro-life" is just the pretty wrapper they encase their forced-birthing turd inside.

LiberalArkie

(15,708 posts)
25. Pro-Life people believe that women who want abortions had sex outside of marriage, thus
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:26 PM
Jan 2014

should have to carry the baby to term to repent for the sin. In their viewpoint, if abortions are illegal, then there would be no sex outside of marriage. But this seems to only apply to the lower class of people. As everyone knows they are the only ones that are having that immoral sex.

Of course if they have a problem, their good friendly md from church will preform one and call it something else. I have seen that many of times in the Baptist church I used to attend. But then now days a single girl being pregnant in not such a stigma. But I did know a well off girl who did get an abortion at a Catholic hospital several years ago.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
27. Abortion is a relevant medical procedure. Just ask Rick Santorum.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 06:45 PM
Jan 2014

His wife terminated her pregnancy in the 19th week after she was told she would die if the baby wasn't removed. So rather than having an "abortion", the doctor induced labor and the resultant "baby" died a few minutes after birth. So they got to call their "abortion" something else and are still free to wag their finger at other women oblivious to the doublethink, even though what they did is nor more morally defensible than many of the women they are condemning.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
22. I've heard these stats before, and
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:39 PM
Jan 2014

I think the probable explanation is that a lot of the premature infants born here would most likely be considered miscarriages in other parts of the world.

Read a story on-line a few days ago about a 19-week old fetus, born alive, but dead within minutes. That child would be included among those statistics, but there isn't anywhere in the world where that child would hve a chance to live any longer.

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