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Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-WI) appeals to the President to help Americans avoid freezing to death (Original Post) Scuba Jan 2014 OP
And thus the lie of our dependence on foreign fossil fuels die. Half-Century Man Jan 2014 #1
How much propane are we actually exporting? badtoworse Jan 2014 #3
This seems to be relevant Fumesucker Jan 2014 #4
I am basing my statement on the contents of Ms. Baldwin's letter. Half-Century Man Jan 2014 #8
I don't think it's that simple badtoworse Jan 2014 #12
It's an emergency for those on the edge who've already had food stamp cuts KoKo Jan 2014 #2
This is no fucking joke. I live in MN, when I tried to refill my propane tank in December, scarletwoman Jan 2014 #5
Electric space heaters? n/t moondust Jan 2014 #16
Yes, I have an electric space heater, which I'm already using in order scarletwoman Jan 2014 #18
I'm not sure you understand all the issues. Pipes burst when all you have is "space heaters." Ed Suspicious Jan 2014 #19
Oil AND Propane have gone sky high here in NY also. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #17
*kick* dammit! scarletwoman Jan 2014 #6
Cutting food stamps, cutting heating aid, pushing the TPP.. woo me with science Jan 2014 #7
+1 jsr Jan 2014 #22
One-third of the natural gas in ND is burned off at the well to make quick money on oil. Coyotl Jan 2014 #9
I like Tammy Baldwin Beringia Jan 2014 #10
kick 840high Jan 2014 #11
A senator having to write a letter like that . . . Brigid Jan 2014 #13
Letters like this are fairly SOP jaysunb Jan 2014 #14
Thank you, jay. Cha Jan 2014 #15
Senators write these letters all the time ProSense Jan 2014 #20
Recommend jsr Jan 2014 #21
This is so sad. She shouldn't even have to ask. ananda Jan 2014 #23

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
1. And thus the lie of our dependence on foreign fossil fuels die.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 10:10 PM
Jan 2014

The corporations wanted the regulations lowered to extract fossil fuels to EXPORT them for maximum profit. They NEVER intended for American fuel sources to benefit American citizens (other than themselves).

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
3. How much propane are we actually exporting?
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 10:22 PM
Jan 2014

Can you cite anything to demonstrate that propane exports are the cause of the shortage?

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
8. I am basing my statement on the contents of Ms. Baldwin's letter.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 10:50 PM
Jan 2014

In the forth paragraph she says exports have doubled. In the fifth paragraph she asks the President to use executive powers to retard the exportation of propane during the winter.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
2. It's an emergency for those on the edge who've already had food stamp cuts
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 10:16 PM
Jan 2014

and now to have to worry about how they pay heating bills if they haven't run out during this severe cold and could be already freezing to death in rural areas along with inner cities.

They sit there in DC doing their deals about how much to cut in Food Stamps so that Big Agra can keep some of their subsidies while people are suffering. I guess they feel it's up to the States to take care of it, though.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
5. This is no fucking joke. I live in MN, when I tried to refill my propane tank in December,
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 10:33 PM
Jan 2014

I could only get 150 gallons for my 500 gallon tank. Now the price has more than doubled, and the best I can do is get on a waiting list - for almost $6 a gallon if I'm lucky enough for them to deliver to me at all. There have been only 6 days in January so far when the HIGH temperature has been above zero.

I wear long underwear in my house, I have every blanket I own on my bed at night. WTH am I supposed to do if I can't even get any propane delivered? Much less manage to pay the price?

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
18. Yes, I have an electric space heater, which I'm already using in order
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 08:00 AM
Jan 2014

to keep my thermostat set low. The thing is, even in my little 20' x 32' house, space heaters alone don't really cut it when it's 25 below zero.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
17. Oil AND Propane have gone sky high here in NY also.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 03:06 AM
Jan 2014

As soon as people NEED IT the MOST, that's when they raise it. The colder it gets the higher the price. This is outrageous.

It is CRUEL and criminal what is going on in this country.

We are going to use stoves next hear because aside from the outrageous cost of fuel, we do not want to fund these criminals anymore.

Also wearing jackets and gloves and whatever it takes to stay warm.

Btw, I don't think there is a shortage here, we have no problem GETTING deliveries, but each time the price goes up.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
9. One-third of the natural gas in ND is burned off at the well to make quick money on oil.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 10:53 PM
Jan 2014

They just heat the air in ND!

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
13. A senator having to write a letter like that . . .
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 11:42 PM
Jan 2014

Truly we are fucked. Truly, irredeemably, fucked.

jaysunb

(11,856 posts)
14. Letters like this are fairly SOP
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 12:42 AM
Jan 2014

even if there's has been other communications on the subject matter. This letter just reinforces what the Presidents cabinet person or staff have already made him aware of.

These letters are a part of the officials records and does wonders for fundraising,

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
20. Senators write these letters all the time
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 10:12 AM
Jan 2014

Senator Warren wrote one too.

The Senate passed a bill allocating about $500 million to LIHEAP, and the President just signed it into law.

Markey, Warren Press Obama Admin. to Release LIHEAP Funds ASAP

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In a letter sent to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, the Senators argue that budgetary certitude created by passing the 2014 appropriations bill allows the department to immediately distribute the almost $490 million remaining in the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program (LIHEAP). Temperatures have fallen in recent weeks to dangerous levels, but home heating prices have risen more than forecast.

<...>

http://www.warren.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=319
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