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From whom did you first hear the term (Original Post) applegrove Jan 2014 OP
Years and years ago. I think on P.Z. Myers' blog, "Pharyngula." Scootaloo Jan 2014 #1
Yes. For me it was DU. nt Cali_Democrat Jan 2014 #2
James Randi TlalocW Jan 2014 #3
I first saw it here on DU, 2naSalit Jan 2014 #4
No, I've heard it elsewhere. kcr Jan 2014 #5
Maybe 20 years ago 1000words Jan 2014 #6
I first heard it in some folk song Art_from_Ark Jan 2014 #7
Yes. Here on DU. n/t cui bono Jan 2014 #8
Curley, of the Three Stooges..... MADem Jan 2014 #9
On DU and it makes me laugh every time I see it. sabrina 1 Jan 2014 #10
It goes back a ways. Since there have been skeptics. immoderate Jan 2014 #11
I first heard of it on the DU too. And nobody applegrove Jan 2014 #12
All hypotheses are equal Fumesucker Jan 2014 #13
A high school science class should have given you the answer you seek etherealtruth Jan 2014 #17
I don't remember where I first heard it's, but Arkansas Granny Jan 2014 #14
J. Randi has been using it for years Revanchist Jan 2014 #15
Its been around for a while etherealtruth Jan 2014 #16
I heard it a long time ago, and originally as "woo-woo." n/t Tanuki Jan 2014 #19
I think that is likely what I heard, too. etherealtruth Jan 2014 #20
I always thought it might have come from spooky Theremin music in 1950's sci-fi, Tanuki Jan 2014 #21
I don't know the etymology ... but, you could be right! etherealtruth Jan 2014 #22
I don't remember, but it wasn't on DU sakabatou Jan 2014 #18
World of Outlaws ileus Jan 2014 #23
1989 Fla_Democrat Jan 2014 #24
in that context - yes on DU Douglas Carpenter Jan 2014 #25
From the guy who calls himself 'Sid Dithers' on DU Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #26
Nope, I saw it it on Jerry Coyne's blog. Adrahil Jan 2014 #27
Ric Flair MO_Moderate Jan 2014 #28
No. The Amazing Randi rock Jan 2014 #29
I think I first saw it here on DU with a poster called "woo me with science" a kennedy Jan 2014 #30
Woo is me. Shakeitupspear. lonestarnot Jan 2014 #31
Yes. On DU. SomethingFishy Jan 2014 #32
It was on DU LWolf Jan 2014 #33
A good friend sent me a book 20 years ago discussing the physics of "woo". I can't remember the ladjf Jan 2014 #34
Yes. Here. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jan 2014 #35
The usage is not new, the current PR effort is what's new, and that has also made it common. bemildred Jan 2014 #36
Here on DU. ananda Jan 2014 #37
Sam Harris, I think n/t PasadenaTrudy Jan 2014 #38
 

immoderate

(20,885 posts)
11. It goes back a ways. Since there have been skeptics.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 03:29 AM
Jan 2014

"Woo" originates with ghostly, spiritual things. It generalizes to things that require invoking the supernatural to "explain" them.

I know Randi uses it, but it might go back to Sagan, or Asimov. It is not a DU originated word, though, DU has some skeptics.

--imm

applegrove

(118,497 posts)
12. I first heard of it on the DU too. And nobody
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 03:56 AM
Jan 2014

Can give me a clear definition of when a hypothesis starts and woo ends. It seems to be a concept LOST lost lost IN in in TIME time time.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
17. A high school science class should have given you the answer you seek
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 07:24 AM
Jan 2014

I may "hypothesize" that rubbing bear dung and weasel urine on a person will cure their cold ... (amazingly everyone that does this miraculously recovers within 5-10 days) ... have I put forward a scientific hypothesis ... we both know I have not.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothesis ... its a place to start if you truly do not understand.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
16. Its been around for a while
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 07:03 AM
Jan 2014

It is a term that is short hand for pseudo science and quackery.

Woo (pseudoscience) it what passes for science at places like the Creation museum ... if science doesn't offer the answers "you" like ... one can always engage in pseudo science, and tailor "findings" to fit your needs.

Pseudoscience is used to confuse and obfuscate ... either by design (charlatans or those with a specific agenda), through ignorance ... or through (what I like to think of as) zealotry/mysticism.

Some woo can be fairly benign, but much of it poses a danger to others (squandering time and emotional and financial resources)

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
21. I always thought it might have come from spooky Theremin music in 1950's sci-fi,
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 07:40 AM
Jan 2014

or the sound that tv ghosts would make when waving their hands at you menacingly.

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Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
24. 1989
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 08:19 AM
Jan 2014

Dead Poets Society.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097165/quotes

John Keating: Language was developed for one endeavor, and that is - Mr. Anderson? Come on, are you a man or an amoeba?

{pause}

John Keating: Mr. Perry?

Neil: To communicate.

John Keating: No! To woo women!














 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
26. From the guy who calls himself 'Sid Dithers' on DU
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 09:08 AM
Jan 2014

I've been told it comes from James Randi, whom I do not respect in the slightest, one of the most dishonest artists of my lifetime. A man who lied harder and longer than almost anyone outside of professional politics.

SomethingFishy

(4,876 posts)
32. Yes. On DU.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:35 AM
Jan 2014

And I have never heard it used anywhere else, and I have never heard the "woo" discussion anywhere else either.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
33. It was on DU
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:46 AM
Jan 2014

by a DUer who will remain nameless, as he has passed. Way, way back in the old "Meeting Room."

I didn't know that there was a branch of fundamental skepticism before DU. I thought I was a skeptic simply because I don't drink the kool aid of conventional wisdom or any groups "group think."

Boy, did I get schooled.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
34. A good friend sent me a book 20 years ago discussing the physics of "woo". I can't remember the
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:50 AM
Jan 2014

the title, but, I read part of the book and immediately recognized that woo physics was "junk science". My friend, on the other hand
was very enthused about it. He has also drifted into "New Age Woo Science."

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
36. The usage is not new, the current PR effort is what's new, and that has also made it common.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:56 AM
Jan 2014

It is an insult and intended as such, which has much to do with the ineffectiveness of the campaign. And the fact that too many people know by experience that legally sanctioned drugs and safe, effective drugs and not necessarily the same.

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