Who the fuck can live off 10.10 an hour in this day and time?

[lonestarnot]

Maybe if one has four of those jobs.

[Dawgs]

1. No one, but it's still a LOT BETTER than $7.25 an hour. n/t

[lonestarnot]

2. Better yes, but not considerations in reality. How much more are CEO's making now? 65 X?

[Dawgs]

5. That's why I started by saying no one. And chances of getting even $10.10 for all are not realistic.

So, maybe we should be arguing for $15 while also fighting for what we can get. Otherwise we're just stuck with $7.25.

[tridim]

3. Obama does a good thing...

and DU instantly goes in to complain mode.

Lather, rinse, repeat. It's getting really fucking old.

[lonestarnot]

4. Did I say anything about Mr. President? He's doing the best he can with all the fuckwads n Congress

[former9thward]

30. Congress has nothing to do with this.

He is raising it by Executive Order. He could have chosen any figure.

[HappyMe]

6. The horror of it!

Raising the minimum wage!!

[lonestarnot]

9. Snort. $15.00.

[HappyMe]

11. Right.

You know that isn't going to happen any time soon.

[JNelson6563]

7. Newsflash! Many of us live on far less!

Oh yes, it's true. We are what you call "poor".

It can be an ugly world out here.

Julie

[lonestarnot]

10. How is this a fucking news flash?

[JNelson6563]

20. Um, you seemed unaware.

10.10 would be a substantial raise for many people. People who "live off" much less.

All those living off much less would be able to live even better on 10.10. Your OP makes it appear you don't know about this.

Julie

[lonestarnot]

22. I fucking go to the grocery store. I am not unaware. I am sorry Julie. When it is siphoned up to

richie rich, and they can't suck out more than 10.10 just WTF is wrong with this picture. 10.10 is not enough and I'm not falling for it!

[JNelson6563]

34. As a poor person I appreciate every step up.

I don't 10.10 as the final answer, I see it as a step in the right direction.

And I'm not falling for anything. Most notably I won't fall for kicking this thread again.

Peace--
Julie

[lonestarnot]

37. Well then I'll just take that liberty.

[LanternWaste]

8. Seven of my co-workers, at the least.

Seven of the newer co-workers in the office I work at, at the least.

[lonestarnot]

13. Are they subversive or do they want that job?

[Adrahil]

12. IMO, the problem is NOT really the minimum wage...

... yes, it's a good idea to raise the minimum wage. But the REAL answer is not simply to raise the unskilled minimum wage jobs to the level of skilled wage jobs, but to create more skilled wage jobs! Sure, raise the minimum wage to $10-12. But that won;t solve the long term problem.

Invest in infrastructure.... bridges, roads, electrical infrastructure, green energy infrastructure, SCIENCE!

[lonestarnot]

14. You left off the most important, education!

[Nuclear Unicorn]

15. "Who the fuck can live off 10.10 an hour...Maybe if one has four of those jobs."

Is that an actual call for $40/hour minimum or just spur-of-the-moment hyperbole to bolster the main point?

[lonestarnot]

17. So your make more and can't empathize. What else do you want us to know?

[Nuclear Unicorn]

31. It was serious question.

So your make more and can't empathize. What else do you want us to know?

What you should know is you shouldn't make unfounded assumptions and you look silly if your reflex reaction is outrage.

It was an honest question. Is the OP expressing a need for $40/hour or is it just a rhetorical device?

[Iggo]

16. I make considerably more than that...

...and I can't afford to live by myself.

[lonestarnot]

18. You lazy slob.

[Iggo]

19. lol

[HughBeaumont]

21. 10.10 wasn't an adequate wage in 1995.

I really can't take any argument why the minimum wage shouldn't be raised seriously, especially since 40% of workers now make less than the inflation adjusted 1968 minimum wage.

[stevenleser]

23. It makes me sick that we have to fight to even get that low of a wage for people.

[lonestarnot]

24. No shit man. Here' a cold rag for your head. Now get up and fight those fucking ALEC motherfuckers

[stevenleser]

25. ALWAYS! nt

[lonestarnot]

26. Love you stevenlasher!

[nilesobek]

27. In the old days they had "wreckers,"

people who would infiltrate businesses like that with poor pay and throw monkey wrenches in the machines to destroy the business from the inside out. We aren't far away from that.

[lonestarnot]

28. That was why I was asking up thread about the subversion.

[Taitertots]

29. I did and it sucked

[frwrfpos]

32. i make a little over 9 bucks an hour full time

And i scrape by every month. I utilize the food bank as well as food stamps. If not for them i would starve.


Its a miserable existence but par for the course in this hellhole capitalist country

In civilized countries people would riot.
In this country people are kept down by violent police and non stop propaganda

[workinclasszero]

33. Sad but true

Its a miserable existence but par for the course in this hellhole capitalist country

In civilized countries people would riot.
In this country people are kept down by violent police and non stop propaganda

God bless you, I hope your life will get better soon.

[El_Johns]

35. All my coworkers. It would be a raise. Of about $1000 a year.

[Igel]

36. Define "live."

I did it with the equivalent in the early '80s. And again in the mid '90s.

Bike and walk when the bus is too expensive. Hitch rides with friends for stuff that requires a car. They go to a warehouse store, I ride along and stock up on staples.

Lots of really cheap food. Once I rejoiced when the day after Thanksgiving the grocery store had the turkey's they'd thawed for last-minute buyers on sale for 9 cents a pound. Ran across them by accident and hauled over forty-five pounds of turkey back to my apt. Would have bought more, but by the time I managed to walk back to the store the last one was already sold. Baked them unstuffed, stripped the carcasses, froze the meat and made broth with the bones. Really, by the end of the turkey run I was really, really tired of turkey, whether meat or soup. But for 9 cents a pound it beat the beans and Jarlsberg diet I had been on.

Hot in summer. Cold in winter.

No entertainment. Apart from broadcast tv. And the library. And walks.

Clothes were cheap.

Phone was minimal landline. Cost next to nothing. Still have the phone for hurricanes, when the cell towers are out and the elelctricity's out.

The hardest part was looking at friend who eat out, go out with friends for a drink, buy non-necessary stuff (more meat; nicer clothes; transportation; beer or wine). Most of that difficulty was managing my own expectations and being content with what I had instead of busily comparing myself and judging myself against others. There were those worse off, so I had things to be grateful for and psychological space to be grateful in.

[lonestarnot]

38. It is just existing. Think of the contributions that are being lost. You speak of the existence

in past context. I hope things are better now.

[madrchsod]

39. i`d say..not very well.

it`s just enough money to keep most people off any state or federal aide. if the republicans are so worried about the freeloaders...oh wait a minute ....they could give two shits about the great unwashed.

i was making 10+ an hour in 1977...

[blackspade]

40. No shit.

But it's better than 7.25.

We need to make this front and center in the 2014 elections.
I agree though, that we should shoot higher. If we want to have at least 10.10 we should start at 15.

[Spirochete]

41. Not enough

but better than not budging at all.