General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMap: Publicly Funded Schools That Are Allowed to Teach Creationism.
[IMG][/IMG]
A large, publicly funded charter school system in Texas is teaching creationism to its students, Zack Kopplin recently reported in Slate. Creationist teachers dont even need to be sneaky about itthe Texas state science education standards, as well as recent laws in Louisiana and Tennessee, permit public school teachers to teach alternatives to evolution. Meanwhile, in Florida, Indiana, Ohio, Arizona, Washington, D.C., and elsewhere, taxpayer money is funding creationist private schools through state tuition voucher or scholarship programs. As the map below illustrates, creationism in schools isnt restricted to schoolhouses in remote villages where the separation of church and state is considered less sacred. If you live in any of these states, theres a good chance your tax money is helping to convince some hapless students that evolution (the basis of all modern biological science, supported by everything we know about geology, genetics, paleontology, and other fields) is some sort of highly contested scientific hypothesis as credible as God did it.
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2014/01/creationism_in_public_schools_mapped_where_tax_money_supports_alternatives.html
napkinz
(17,199 posts)http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/sciencetest.asp
2. Florida Christian School Tells Children Atheists Dont Understand Gravity Because God Did It
http://aattp.org/florida-christian-school-tells-children-atheists-dont-understand-gravity-because-god-did-it/
LiberalEsto
(22,845 posts)we have the right to demand that our taxes don't support creationist teaching.
(Or did I mean cretinist?)
jsr
(7,712 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)... By University admitting officers when considering entrance applications of students from these states.
Sid
Most teachers in my state aren't teaching this and if a student does well on his/her ACT and/or SAT then it proves he/she hasn't been taught creationism.
Basically, you're telling me that when my son applies to MIT, the admitting officers should discount his application because he is from Tennessee even though he's never been taught creationism in school.
That's about as smart as, well, teaching creationism in school.
ananda
(28,835 posts)Those poor kids...
kwolf68
(7,365 posts)I see the progeny of those who said the earth was flat are in operation. If it's a private school so I'd say who cares, but when public money or schools are teaching this dogmatic non-sense we have a problem.
The rest of the world will be laughing at us as we rush toward theocracy.
eppur_se_muova
(36,247 posts)I'm moving out of TN, back to AL. This map explains some things I've encountered here.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Over here in Knoxville - and I would wager in all the major cities (Nashville, Chattanooga, Memphis) - we're not idiots. Our schools aren't teaching that tripe.
And, for the record, the mayors and most of the city councils in all those cities are Democrats. Tennessee is no different than Pennsylvania except that our urban areas aren't quite big enough to override the votes of the village idiots in the rural areas.
eppur_se_muova
(36,247 posts)More churches than bars. Memphis is the closest island of "real" civilization, 45 min by road. (Someone at UTMartin described their situation as "splendid isolation". Well, we're more splendid.)
When I lived in PA, the running joke was that Philly and Pgh are OK, but everything in between is Mississippi ... but that was enough to turn the electoral vote Dem.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)John Prager
January 25, 2014
As the ignorance-fueled battle between the extreme right, who feel that little things like facts should not interfere with their beliefs, and those who possess a minimal amount of scientific knowledge heats up across the country we would like to step into the evil, anti-Christian, anti-God time machine and remind everyone of that time in 2011 when a Kentucky school superintendent sent a hilarious letter to the commissioner of education demanding that the evil, godless false belief known as evolution be dropped in schools in favor of the more reasonable I Dream of Jeannie method of creation.
Not only was his initial letter hilariously born of a misinformed and completely ignorant failure to understand so much as what certain scientific terms mean, but the response was the most polite smackdown that could have possibly been sent.
read more: http://aattp.org/flashback-kentucky-school-superintendents-idiotic-evolution-is-not-a-fact-letter-roasted-by-education-commissioner/
napkinz
(17,199 posts)Simone Sanner
January 25, 2014
Bill Nye The Science Guy is taking on Ken Ham, the founder of Kentuckys Creationist Museum in a debate slated for February 4th. There has been some negative feedback from the Atheist community who say that Nye lends credibility to the Creationist belief system by accepting Hams challenge to a debate.
- - -
When asked if the push to include creationism in the classroom frightened him, Nye was quick to respond, Yeah, it does. It is of deep concern. Nye continued, speaking about the countrys need to create a generation of critical thinkers and people educated in science. If the United States produces a generation of science students who dont believe in science, thats troublesome, because what makes the United States still attractive to people is the tradition of innovation, of new ideas, of optimism like Silicon Valley. Nye added, New York state has this tremendous push to bring in high-tech firms.
Nye talked about the consequences globally of the country relinquishing its arguable lead in tech and science industries, saying Without [a generation of innovators immersed in the sciences], the United States economy will slip behind and really the expectations of the world will change probably not for the better. We want to raise the most scientifically literate students that we can.
Watch the full interview with Bill Nye, The Science Guy here:
http://aattp.org/bill-nye-vs-science-denying-teapublicans-push-to-include-creationism-in-schools-frightens-me-video/
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I saw this on Facebook the other day and called my honor role son into the room. He's currently in biology, so I asked.
He laughed his head off and said the kids would think the teacher was insane if he started teaching creationism.
We're in Tennessee, btw.
Just because teachers are "allowed" to teach it doesn't mean that the vast majority are. Most teachers are well-educated and disciplined enough to know how stupid it would be to teach creationism. Give the teachers some credit. Even in "dumb" states, teachers are still better educated than most.
napkinz
(17,199 posts)A Louisiana man didnt think much about the Christian indoctrination that went on in his local schools. Growing up, he experienced it as just a harmless part of the culture. His perceptions on religion changed dramatically when his stepson, a Buddhist with Thai origins, enrolled in the 6th grade at Negreet High in Sabine Parish, Louisiana. What subsequently unfolded at the school has resulted in a lawsuit, filed by the American Civil Liberties Union on behalf of the parents, Scott and Sharon Lane, and their son, C.C.
The teacher insisted the Bible is 100% true, ridiculed the students religion.
By the end of C.C.s first week at Nagreet, he was throwing up every day on the way to school. The couples other children reported that the boy was being harassed and humiliated for his religion, and the religious beliefs with which he grew up, by the science teacher, Rita Roark. According to the children, Roark taught that the Bible is 100 percent true, God created the Earth 6,000 years ago, evolution is not only impossible but a stupid theory made up by stupid people who dont want to believe in God. For good measure, she called the Buddhist religion stupid as well.
To show just how appalling this sort of indoctrination is, Scott Lane cited a question that appeared on a science test. The question was:
ISNT IT AMAZING WHAT THE _____________ HAS MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fill in the blank with the only correct answer, of course, which C.C. didnt know. The answer, an obvious set-up by the teacher, is THE LORD. After being ridiculed the first time for not knowing the answer, the next time C.C. saw the same question on a test, he put Lord Buddha. Roark led the classroom in laughing at the boy.
read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/01/28/bible-belt-lousiana-indoctrinates-bullies-buddhist-student-religion-lawsuit-filed/