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G_j

(40,366 posts)
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:25 PM Jan 2014

Foods that are Killing the Planet

Five Foods That Are Killing the Planet

Spoiler alert: Stop reading now if you can't live without Quarter Pounders, packaged pastries, or expensive sushi. —Avital Andrews

Bluefin

We'll let Pulitzer Prize–winning food critic Jonathan Gold get on his soapbox for this one:

"People need to stop eating BLUEFIN TUNA. Period. It'll be difficult because bluefin is uncommonly delicious and tends to be served at high-end sushi bars, where the fashion is to say 'omakase' and submit to the chef's will. But the numbers of these magnificent fish are dropping fast. If we don't stop eating them now, we'll stop in a few years anyway because there won't be any more." Carl Safina, who founded the Blue Ocean Institute, adds, "Because they're long-lived, bluefin populations don't stand up well to heavy fishing pressure—that's why they're so depleted. It's just too sad to eat them. Plus, big fish are high in mercury." To rein in your share of the overfishing disaster currently unfolding—bluefin stock is down by more than 96 percent from unfished levels—order a vegetarian roll instead.

Coffee

The problem with CONVENTIONAL COFFEE, according to Stephen Madigosky, an environmental science professor at Widener University, "stems from manipulating this shade-loving plant into one that's grown in full sunlight and requires substantial use of herbicides, pesticides, fungicides, and fertilizers." He adds that biologically rich forests are cleared in favor of coffee crops, which devastates tropical species, especially migratory birds. Order organic java to cut out the pesticides, and choose shade-grown to protect rainforest biodiversity. Marc Lash, sustainability ambassador for FrontStreet Facility Solutions, points out that how you take your coffee makes a difference: "At Starbucks, a black cup of coffee has a carbon footprint of about 30 grams, whereas a venti caramel latte has one of about 420 grams."


Beef

"Cheap burgers are environmental assassins," says Logan Strenchock, Central European University's sustainability officer. Feeding cows to turn them into FACTORY-FARMED BEEF often requires replacing tropical forests with fields of genetically modified corn and soy, which are laced with pesticides that pollute local waters. "It takes 10 to 14 pounds of grain-based feed for a cow to gain 1 pound of flesh," Strenchock says. "Once harvested, that flesh needs to be kept cold, consuming massive amounts of energy." If you must eat a dead cow, eat a grass-fed one, but even then, consider these words from Mary O'Brien, who directs the Utah Forests Program for the Grand Canyon Trust: "In the western U.S., cattle have the single most pervasive impact on public lands, depleting native biodiversity, increasing invasive exotics, diverting water, fouling streams, and baring the soil."

Corn

"GENETICALLY MODIFIED CORN violates so many sustainability boundaries—destroying habitats, depleting soils, breaking nutrient cycles, polluting air and water, contaminating native maize varieties, and on and on," says Douglas Fox, a professor of sustainable agriculture at Unity College. Terry Walters, author of Clean Food (Sterling Epicure, 2012), says that such monocrops "put our bee population at risk and are creating superpests." She adds that corn's unhealthy offspring, high-fructose corn syrup, "takes a huge toll on the land, requires more pesticides and fertilizers over time as soil is depleted, and requires extensive processing." Lee Greene, who runs heirloom-food company Scrumptious Pantry, adds that relying on genetically modified crops "will continue to dramatically reduce biodiversity and drive historic fruits and vegetables to extinction."

Palm Oil

"PALM OIL is one of the largest causes of rainforest destruction," says Laurel Sutherlin, a Rainforest Action Network spokesperson. According to RAN, U.S. palm oil use has ballooned by 500 percent over the past 10 years—it's now in about half of all packaged foods. Christy Wilhelmi, author of Gardening for Geeks (Adams Media, 2013), points out that this oil can be produced only in tropical areas—so huge swaths of ancient rainforest in Indonesia and Malaysia have been bulldozed to plant new palms. "Eight million acres have been cleared and burned already," Wilhelmi says, "and as a result, the orangutan is on its way to extinction." In Indonesia, deforestation-related carbon emissions—most of which are from expanding palm plantations—surpass the amount of pollution caused by all U.S. cars, trucks, planes, and ships. To avoid palm oil, read the ingredients on packaged goods, especially cookies, crackers, and instant-noodle soups.

http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/201401/enjoy-five-foods-killing-the-planet.aspx?utm_source=insider&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter

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Foods that are Killing the Planet (Original Post) G_j Jan 2014 OP
Damn. Not coffee too. I am too addicted to that stuff. cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #1
shade-grown organic marions ghost Jan 2014 #3
I will do my best to find some cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #4
Here's an article that might help marions ghost Jan 2014 #5
Much appreciated! cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #19
if you're close to a Trader Joe's... dhill926 Jan 2014 #10
Easy to find at Stop & Shop cprise Jan 2014 #17
Ahhh, I'm so happy that I'm getting recs cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #18
they have a decent selection G_j Jan 2014 #23
Yup! 2naSalit Jan 2014 #8
This isn't toooo bad....if scarcity comes marions ghost Jan 2014 #12
Thanks for the links 2naSalit Jan 2014 #35
Me too marions ghost Jan 2014 #37
Those are unusual 2naSalit Jan 2014 #38
Hops is not uncommon marions ghost Jan 2014 #41
Have you tried green tea? siligut Jan 2014 #7
I have! Matcha is my go-to tea cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #9
Trader Joe's also has a nice Jasmine green tea. n/t cprise Jan 2014 #21
Yummmm. Jasmine tea is so good. n/t cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #22
Sometimes KamaAina Jan 2014 #31
Peet's? Good to know. siligut Jan 2014 #33
We were in downtown Oakland KamaAina Jan 2014 #34
Scared me when I saw this, elleng Jan 2014 #14
That company sounds very dedicated. I wonder cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #20
I love it, cinnabonbon. elleng Jan 2014 #24
But it doesn't say organic or shade-grown frazzled Jan 2014 #26
Best coffee I have ever had.... Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #30
Target has a really good organic fair trade coffee tabbycat31 Jan 2014 #36
k&r... spanone Jan 2014 #2
Yup 2naSalit Jan 2014 #6
K & R.... dhill926 Jan 2014 #11
It's not the food that's doing it The2ndWheel Jan 2014 #13
Exactly right, elleng Jan 2014 #15
Slim Jim's Initech Jan 2014 #16
Thank you for the 'spoiler alert' B2G Jan 2014 #25
June 2012 PBS article: Americans eat on average 270.7 lbs of meat per year. Yuck! DebJ Jan 2014 #27
I only drink Equal Exchange coffee. RoccoR5955 Jan 2014 #28
Coffee? Beef? Corn? If true, then the planet deserves to die. nt Demo_Chris Jan 2014 #29
Coffee prevents me from personally killing the planet. Glassunion Jan 2014 #32
So the Sierra Club is also pro-WOO. pnwmom Jan 2014 #39
Sounds like it's sugar and milk that are more of a problem than coffee muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #40

cinnabonbon

(860 posts)
1. Damn. Not coffee too. I am too addicted to that stuff.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:28 PM
Jan 2014

It's good that they created a list, though. It's important to raise awareness so people can make educated choices about what they eat (and in a way: financially support).

cprise

(8,445 posts)
17. Easy to find at Stop & Shop
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:37 PM
Jan 2014

Nature's Promise (S&S store brand) has a whole line of organic+fairtrade coffee that doesn't cost much more.

Newman's Own is another.

Trader Joes and Shaws have organic coffee, too.

cinnabonbon

(860 posts)
18. Ahhh, I'm so happy that I'm getting recs
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:58 PM
Jan 2014

Thank you so much! I'll go check out Trader Joe's next time I buy groceries.

2naSalit

(86,526 posts)
8. Yup!
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:55 PM
Jan 2014

I am thankful that there is a local roaster in the nearest town. He has ONLY sustainable fair trade coffee. In fact, everything he sells in his little coffee shop is fair trade, all the gifts and food stuffs... everything.

I may be poor but I'll still spend a little more for that. It's my one luxury, two good cups of coffee in the morning. The rest of the day, no matter how challenging, is easier to deal with after that... and the fact that I'm truly addicted!

When coffee goes away, as in completely unavailable, THEN I'll adapt with something else.

2naSalit

(86,526 posts)
35. Thanks for the links
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 06:51 PM
Jan 2014

I'll check on those. I have some bizarre allergies so I have to be cautious of which herbs I get involved with. But the upside to weird allergies is that they made me aware of herbals and marketing schemes all in one fell swoop!

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
37. Me too
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 07:56 PM
Jan 2014

allergic to chocolate, camomile, red wine, flax seed, and certain drugs.

I have no trouble with carob, amaranth, elderberry, and some other things that are unusual, but like you I'm very cautious about introducing anything new. Allergies are very individual.

2naSalit

(86,526 posts)
38. Those are unusual
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 03:07 AM
Jan 2014

Mine, the most important one, is mint... all of them including catnip. I had to stop flying on commercial flights due to the closed air system and all those lozenges and gum and lifesavers!! Another is hops, no beer for me! I compensate with wine or spirits when the need arises! Fortunately I drink alcohol about three times a year, like during the holidays at social gatherings.

I do use herbs for medicines and just for flavor when cooking. And teas are good, I should enjoy them more, maybe I can wean myself from coffee - done it before but I got re-addicted and not regretting it yet!

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
41. Hops is not uncommon
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 08:39 AM
Jan 2014

my hubs face blows up like a chipmunk if he drinks beer. So he avoids it too. But that mint allergy is really annoying I bet, esp if it just has to be in the air (!) Wow--could you wear a face mask? That's like my friend who has chemical sensitivity and when everybody's using the dryers with those obnoxious chemical-laden dryer sheets she can't even go outside in her neighborhood to work in the yard. Excuse me for going off on a tangent but people really need to save money and wise up about those *#% polluting dryer sheets:

http://ecowatch.com/2013/04/05/why-you-need-to-ditch-dryer-sheets/

And America is finally getting the message about chemical perfumes in laundry detergent. We need to be using "All-free" or one of the Seventh Generation products or Ecos (sold at Costco). We are really stressing our bodies with having to deal with all these airborne chemicals. I'm sure you agree. And I notice that people are using less perfumed body products too. My nose is sensitive to that stuff. My hub won't even go into a store that has detectable scents in the air--he says "potpourri alert" and walks out. And those plug-in things are really diabolical--instant headaches. (Don't get me started on Febreze...)

There are so many good kinds of green tea or white tea--if you can use them to cut down on coffee (not out -- they have much less caffeine. Those barley coffee substitutes are really a hurdle (I keep wishing for the real thing). No-caffeine herbal teas are my choice, but I have to read all labels for chamomile --daisy family allergies are fairly common. I like hibiscus teas, calming and actually lowers blood pressure (but if you have low BP, may not be the best choice). Depending on your body type & BP, coffee may not be so bad. My hub has extremely low BP so starting the morning with a cup of coffee is probably all right for him. Everything in moderation.

Blah blah blah I know...but medicinal aspects of food is a fascinating topic...

siligut

(12,272 posts)
7. Have you tried green tea?
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:51 PM
Jan 2014

Or any tea, though green tea is supposed to be best for you. You can get tea at coffee houses as well.

cinnabonbon

(860 posts)
9. I have! Matcha is my go-to tea
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:57 PM
Jan 2014

I still appreciate the suggestion. The flavoured teas they sell in those shops are also amazing. It's like going on a treasure hunt in there.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
31. Sometimes
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:57 PM
Jan 2014

I was appalled the day I went with a friend to Peet's, the go-to chain in the Bay Area, and discovered that they only had bagged tea for her! The hell of it is, they sell tins of tea leaves, but won't brew them.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
33. Peet's? Good to know.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 06:01 PM
Jan 2014

I agree, all it takes is a cup of boiling water and a little finesse/timing.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
34. We were in downtown Oakland
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 06:15 PM
Jan 2014

I could have easily gone another couple of blocks to a locally-owned place that serves actual tea.

elleng

(130,862 posts)
14. Scared me when I saw this,
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:27 PM
Jan 2014

and just checked my coffee: http://cuveecoffee.com/our-process/

''All of our coffees are sourced through fair, direct relationships and represent only the highest quality coffee and sustainable farms. Our farmer-partners are committed to producing the best possible coffee, and the Cuvee team combines skill, experience, attention to detail and technology to maintain an unwavering level of quality and consistency each and every time we roast.

Cuvee Coffee is committed to Quality, Sustainable and Direct Relationship Coffee. Sustainability is a popular word these days, but it is more than just a buzz word. And we take it seriously. Webster’s defines sustainability as, “of, relating to, or being a method of harvesting or using resources so that the resource is not depleted or permanently damaged.” Cuvee Coffee takes that definition one step further.

We are committed to positively impacting the quality of life for everyone who helps bring the coffee from the plant to your cup, while also preserving the natural resources that make our quality product possible. And, we only work with suppliers and partners who share our vision. There are a number of people that play an important role in making that vision a reality.''

I discovered Cuvee at a coffee shop in Chestertown, MD, liked the coffee so much I took some home, and when I'd finished with the 1/2 lb I'd bought, I contacted Cuvee directly, and have received it by mail ever since. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED! WHEW!

elleng

(130,862 posts)
24. I love it, cinnabonbon.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:17 PM
Jan 2014

Has a 'spicy,' smoky flavor, somehow different from others, and not very expensive. Available for 'beginners' in less than 1 lb packages. I've graduated to more than 1 lb. Have a grinder?

I get the decaf.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
26. But it doesn't say organic or shade-grown
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:27 PM
Jan 2014

If one is to take all three of the requirements in this article--that the coffee be certified fair trade, certified organic, and shade-gown, I'm not sure any of us could afford it (even if we could easily find it).

Just because a web site says it sources its coffee through "fair, direct relationships" does that mean it is technically "fair trade"? I don't know.

This sounds like great coffee, but I'm not going to order my coffee all the way from MD--that really adds to the carbon footprint enormously if you have to ship it via UPS or FedEx.

Life is too complicated sometimes

tabbycat31

(6,336 posts)
36. Target has a really good organic fair trade coffee
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 07:53 PM
Jan 2014

And I'm a notorious cheapskate and I could afford it.

The2ndWheel

(7,947 posts)
13. It's not the food that's doing it
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:08 PM
Jan 2014

Human ingenuity is the real culprit.

Our attempt to control life has brought us here. We got a lot of good shit out of it. We got a lot of problems because of it too.

elleng

(130,862 posts)
15. Exactly right,
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:29 PM
Jan 2014

and I predict our 'brains,' 'human ingenuity' as you put it, will finally cause the end of us all: Its only natural.

Initech

(100,062 posts)
16. Slim Jim's
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 04:31 PM
Jan 2014

Any food that contains the words "mechanically separated chicken" as a key ingredient should never be eaten by anyone.

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
27. June 2012 PBS article: Americans eat on average 270.7 lbs of meat per year. Yuck!
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 05:32 PM
Jan 2014

That's 12 ozs a day, 5 pounds a week! When you consider how much of that is 30% fatty burger,
how much fat is being consumed! I think the fat content is what shuts down my system. I can barely
get down 2-3 ozs a day; I can do 4 ozs if I have a sandwich with lean beef or low sodium sliced turkey
breast, but that's the maximum. I love a nice lean top round steak baked in the oven in beef broth for
about 35 minutes with a little A1, yum, but I just can't eatany more than 2-3 ozs no matter how yummy
it is. My body just won't do that. Several days a week I just can't stomach meat at all. So I eat at the
maximum 1.3 lbs in a heavy week, more like 1 lb a week, 52-55 lbs a year. Hubby's CKD diet means
he never has more than 3 oz a day, ever, so 68 lbs a year (and he is 6'7" tall). So together, we eat
less than half of the meat of one average American.

Beef/meat consumption wouldn't be so hard on the planet if we ate LESS of it. Heart disease, obesity,
and the consequential diabetes and CKD and other complications of diabetes would drop too.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/06/27/155527365/visualizing-a-nation-of-meat-eaters

pnwmom

(108,974 posts)
39. So the Sierra Club is also pro-WOO.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 04:50 AM
Jan 2014

How dare they criticize GMO corn? Everyone knows it's just the same as organic corn.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,300 posts)
40. Sounds like it's sugar and milk that are more of a problem than coffee
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 07:21 AM
Jan 2014

"At Starbucks, a black cup of coffee has a carbon footprint of about 30 grams, whereas a venti caramel latte has one of about 420 grams."

So the caramel (ie sugar) and/or milk are the biggies, not 'coffee'.

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