Nine.

[WilliamPitt]

A shooting has been reported on the campus of Florida State College.

That's nine school shootings in a month, if my accounting is correct. On pace for 108 school shootings by New Year's Eve.

http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/florida-state-college-reports-shooting-on-campus

108.

[RC]

1. We really need to start applying the first part of the 2nd Amendment to any gun purchase.

Don't belong to a state recognized Militia, no gun.

[Electric Monk]

14. What a shitty hide just below this. That was clearly a parody of some other recent attacks on Will.

These, for example: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4416446 http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4417775

The alerter got a lucky jury who hasn't been paying attention.

[lapfog_1]

3. The report linked to this, if true, is much different than other school shootings.

Someone being beaten up (enough to put him in the hospital) gets a gun to defend himself from his attackers and shoots one of them (also now in the hospital).

Initially sounds to me like self defense.

But to the point of the number of other "traditional" school and mall shootings this year... it's insane. Even the last sentence where I used "traditional" to describe columbine style school shootings is really sickening, but maybe appropriate now.

[sarisataka]

5. Some would say

The shooter made himself judge, jury and (attempted ) executioner. He selfishly put others lives at risk to protect his own life without considering the risk to the community.

In their eyes he is as much a criminal; possibly greater since he could have injured even more people. The two attackers were focused on just one person.

[lapfog_1]

7. self preservation is one of our base instincts.

only a very very few humans rise above that to "always turn the other cheek". Many of those people we call martyrs.

Someone attacks me, I will do anything to stop the attack, including killing the attacker if needed.

As a society, we have always excused this level of violence as justified.

[sarisataka]

19. while I do agree

you will see others who do not. Regardless of circumstances, the person shot becomes the victim.

You can see below the mindset- he should have drove away... that being beaten by two people using a pool cue, perhaps making starting the car and driving a bit difficult, is irrelevant.

[Electric Monk]

20. While some automatically side with the gunner, it seems

[sarisataka]

21. So you believe

he should have let the two men continue to beat him? It appears the cue was already broken, retreat was not working...

Both sides are claiming self defense- is one side more believable?

[X_Digger]

8. I expect we'll see another self-delete from WP.

This one doesn't fit the narrative, therefore belongs down the memory hole.

[WilliamPitt]

16. It's a shooting at a school.

It stays.

Sorry to disappoint.

[sarisataka]

18. School... shooting...

anything else is details

[X_Digger]

4. Somehow I think you'll forget about this one..

.. once you realize that it appears to be self-defense.

According to Palm Bay Police Spokeswoman Yvonne Martinez, two men were beating up a third in one of the school's parking lots.

The man who was being beaten retreated to his car, where he grabbed a gun. According to witnesses, he fired his gun, wounding one person, as he was being beaten.

In the parking lot, a pool cue snapped in half lay about 50 feet from a red car with its engine still running.

The shooting comes about six weeks after a state appeals court ruled that students attending public universities can keep weapons in their cars while on campus, according to Reuters.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

9. The shooter "retreated to his car where he grabbed a gun." He should have kept retreating.

If he had time to 'grab a gun,' which I'm certain was adequately secured away in the vehicle in full compliance with local laws, he had time to drive away.

[X_Digger]

10. .. as he was being beaten?

The gun could have been in a door pocket, tucked between the seat and door, or in the center console. All perfectly legal.

You assume a lot.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

11. You're right-- I forgot this was Florida. He probably had it cocked and sitting on the dashboard.

With the windows rolled down.

[X_Digger]

17. Of course.. if it can be used in self-defense, it obviously wasn't secure enough, right? ;) n/t

[SidDithers]

6. ...

Far right, beside Dr Jill Biden is Kaitlin Roig, a teacher at Sandy Hook Elementary, who attended Obama's 2013 SOTU address.

Surely, she was there as a prop to glorify school shootings, or something.

Sid

[LordGlenconner]

12. Fuck.

[Ellipsis]

13. They're all props. n/t

[Dr Hobbitstein]

15. This happened not too far from my house.

I live in Palm Bay, about 2-3 miles from the campus. It was big news here yesterday. It was also a cut and dry self-defense shooting. Two guys beating the shit out of a guy in the parking lot, with a pool cue. The shooter is hospitalized with injuries, as is one of the assailants (with a bullet wound, of course). Everyone is expected to survive, however the one who was shot is in better condition than the shooter.

Local news report:
http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/officials-1-shot-eastern-florida-state-college-pal/nc7Ty/

Video starts to play right away.