MOYERS & CO" “There was a class war, and the poor people lost and the working people lost”

[kpete]

THE SCAM OF WHAT AMERICA HAS BECOME

“The horror show is we are going to be slaves to profit. Some of us are going to be higher on the pyramid and we’ll count ourselves lucky and many many more will be marginalized and destroyed,” Simon tells Moyers. He blames a “purchased” Congress for failing America’s citizens, leading many of them to give up on politics altogether.

Video & More:
http://billmoyers.com/episode/david-simon-on-america-as-a-horror-show/



Former journalist and TV showrunner David Simon excoriated not only what he described as a broken American government in an interview with Bill Moyers on Friday, but a defeated labor movement.

“The fights gone out of labor,” Simon told Moyers. “Labor’s lost the fight. Capital’s won.”

“To the victor go the spoils,” Moyer retorted.

“There was a class war, and the poor people lost and the working people lost,” Simon continued, arguing that the country did best economically when labor activists and businesses had a more level playing field, ensuring that neither of them won “all the time.”

more here too:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/31/david-simon-tells-bill-moyers-there-was-a-class-war-and-the-poor-people-lost/

[Jefferson23]

1. We have known this for a long time, we try and work around it..but it has proven almost

impossible to defeat, a “purchased” Congress. The money has been a poison.

K&R

[adirondacker]

2. “We are Reagan’s children, we are Thatcher’s children,” Simon said. “You know, ‘There is no society

there’s just you.’ We bought this stuff hook, line and sinker and we are building that. We’re getting the America we’ve paid for.”

Boy does that quote speak volumes.

[CatholicEdHead]

3. Everything goes in cycles

It is a time where Capital is more powerful than Labor, but times do change, history shows that it has gone back and forth. Labor will make a return when Capital overreaches and the pendulum will swing the other way.

[kpete]

4. I sure wish you were right,

BUT


i have been waiting 62 years for that pendulum...


peace, (still waiting), kp

[CatholicEdHead]

5. I wish I could give a time frame

But from the fall of the era of the British East Indian Company to the Gilded age of the late 1800's, to the progressive revival of Labor in the 1910s and 1930s, to the slow drop since WWII, it all goes in cycles.

Labor can make a revival, but it will be even tougher this time as international capital has learned from the past. There is a way, things will eventually turn around, I cannot give a time frame right now.

[JHB]

11. It's not just the pendulum swinging -- it's also a tug of war over where it swings from

Billions of dollars worth of resources have been devoted to yanking the pivot point rightward.

Just depending on overreach won't pull it back.

[adirondacker]

15. Thanks for stating that.

I like to think of it as a change in the center of political gravity occurring, and not in a positive way.

[liberal_at_heart]

6. K&R

[adirondacker]

7. Kay and ARRRGH!

[kpete]

9. how appropriate

and thanks,
kp

[adirondacker]

10. I ended up listening to the entire show on NPR last night on my drive to the grocery store.

It's absolutely one of the best interviews I've heard in quite some time.

I posted it in Good Reads to give it a bit more exposure.

Looking forward to hearing the second part next week.

[kpete]

12. hey thanks

I am traveling today - Moyers will be a perfect companion

thanks,
kp

[adirondacker]

13. I liked his perspective on President Obama. It's made me respect him a bit more.

David Simon is brilliant and has insight and knowledge of both "sides" and talks about it fluidly.

Enjoy!

[adirondacker]

17. super bowl bump nt

[KoKo]

8. Recommend!

[woo me with science]

14. kick

[TheFrenchRazor]

16. pretty much. nt

[jsr]

18. It is getting worse.

[Quantess]

19. Well, yeah.

K & R because it bears repeating.