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pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 05:45 PM Feb 2014

More snarky sexism in the Amanda Knox coverage.

It's not just in Italy or in the UK. It's here, too, just a little more subtle.

When have you ever read any media comment about Raffaele's varying hair styles?

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/01/justice/knox-extradition/

CNN Legal Analyst Paul Callan agreed that there is a long road ahead for Knox.

"More time for her hair to grow out," said Callan, who also appeared on "New Day Saturday."

"She is sporting a new hairdo, I don't know if you noticed that yesterday, in what I think is a public relations effort to sort of humanize Amanda Knox and keep that high public opinion poll that out there for her."

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Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
3. I have not followed this story at all, so I had no opinion at all untill reading on DU
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 06:05 PM
Feb 2014

The folks who think she is guilty use frothy, sexist language pulled from some dank cultural storage locker. That makes me side with her. If they had a case the venom would not be present. The truth is it's own defense but railroaders shout about sin and sex instead of evidence and proofs.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
5. You're right, Bluenorthwest. That's what tipped me off early on, too.
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 06:15 PM
Feb 2014

It's basically a modern day witch hunt. They've accused the students of being involved in a Satanic murder cult and called Amanda a "Luciferina" in court.

If you ever want to know more, here is a website that gives both sides. It's an answer to a hate site with the same name, except beginning with the word "the."

www.murderofmeredithkercher.com

And there is a short ebook that can be borrowed for free on Amazon right now, called "The Forgotten Killer." It contains reports from FBI agents and scientists who debunk the case against the students and discuss the evidence against the already convicted killer, Rudy Guede. (A burglar with no connection to the students.) It was written by an author named Douglas Preston, who was researching for a book about the first prosecutor, Mignini, when he was arrested and run out of town.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
4. I'm guessing the Amanda haters are wanting her to keep her head shaved for the electric chair?
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 06:07 PM
Feb 2014

Sorry guys, but the use of capital punishment in Italy has been banned since 1889. We are one of the few countries left that still kill our prisoners.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. Well, kinda sorta banned, except for when they used it....1926-1947
Reply to RC (Reply #4)
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 06:28 PM
Feb 2014

So the dead would say 'banned since 1947'.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category eople_executed_by_Italy_by_firing_squad

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
12. Why is it xenophobic to criticize their court system? Is the US the only country we're ever allowed
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 09:01 PM
Feb 2014

to criticize? If Amanda's case was happening here -- which it never would, since it was all based on the initial prosecutor's obsession with Satanic cults -- we would be just as upset about it. Probably more.

Do you realize that there is no protection against double jeopardy in their system, because the high court can order any number of appeals and it's all considered one long trial? (In the US jeopardy attaches in any trial that is evidentiary -- only appeals trials based strictly on legalities can be overturned on appeal.)

Do you realize that, based on their own law, they are supposed to be using the principle of "beyond a reasonable doubt" but the high court has directed the second appeals trial to instead make a judgment based on an "osmotic" principle where they judge the "totality" of the evidence? (After the first appeals court ruled that there was "no evidence" and that Amanda and Raffaele were both "innocent" of the crime.)

Do you realize that this is supposed to be all one long trial, but in both the second and third trials they introduced new evidence; and in this third trial they also introduced a whole new motive and theory of how the crime was carried out? And that the leading judge just told a reporter that, as they deliberated, they came up with a whole new motive that they used to decide guilt (one that of the defendants wouldn't have any chance to answer since it only came up in jury deliberations)?

Do you realize that in this system jurors are encouraged to read anything they want about the cases they're judging, in all forms of mass media and online, to discuss the ongoing cases with their families and friends, and go into the jury room ready to discuss everything they've run across?

Do you realize that the high court ruled that Amanda's statements were inadmissible for the criminal trial, but they allowed them to be evidence in the civil trial -- which was run concurrently and with the SAME JURORS?

Even Italians recognize that their system is in dire need of reform. It's not xenophic to agree with them.

 

Boudica the Lyoness

(2,899 posts)
9. I was thinking the other day,
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 08:29 PM
Feb 2014

it's funny how you don't hear the nasty remarks about Raffaele like you do Amanda.

I mean, has he ever been called, ‘Conniving; manipulating; woman-eater; narcissist; enchanter; duplicitous; adulterer; drug addict; an explosive mix of drugs, sex and alcohol; dirty; witch; murderer; slanderer; demon; depraved; imposter; promiscuous; succubus; evil; dead inside; pervert; dissolute; psychopath; a wolf in sheep’s clothing; rapist; thief; reeking of sex; Judas; he-devil; Lucifer...’ ?

Has he been called anything, besides guilty?



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