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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 01:52 PM Feb 2014

American CEO's/Rich Do Not Care If American Workers Are Broke & Can't Buy Stuff

I keep hearing the meme that American workers will not be able to buy things at such low wages. When will we realize that the most economically influential Americans DO NOT CARE. After all they have emerging markets and potential middle classes in emerging markets in Asia and Africa that they can sell to. And they have 5 billion customers that do NOT include US consumers.

American workers are no longer on the radar when it come to business investment that means new jobs. New jobs and new technology and research are headed overseas. Americans only get the scraps. The GOP and its business allies support this new economic order. The Dems are ill equipped to appose the situation because they will face billions in money against them and the voters will still go to GOP because of guns, religion, abortion, racism and just plain pig headed stupidity.

We can talk about American workers being poor and unable to buy. THEY DO NOT CARE. THEY DO NOT CARE. And they have said they do not care. American CEO's make most money by eliminating American jobs and sending them overseas. They get a bonuses. They get tax breaks.

So unless American voters actually go out and support pro worker candidates and legislation nothing will change. No matter how bad the economic situation is too many voters vote cultural issues and guns. Blind racism is an epidemic in this country. The mind set of voters has to change where elections are not even close in favor of progressive candidates.

Remember the GOP given power will create jobs for Americans. That fact is if you are willing to move overseas to get on. Learn to speak Chinese or some other foreign language if you want a job. Then be prepared to move to another country.

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American CEO's/Rich Do Not Care If American Workers Are Broke & Can't Buy Stuff (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis Feb 2014 OP
You're picking up on the sadism BeyondGeography Feb 2014 #1
They don't remember what happened the last time they tried to sell stuff LibertyLover Feb 2014 #2
Finding pro-worker candidates isn't so much of a problem Fumesucker Feb 2014 #3
Such An Observation Is True. TheMastersNemesis Feb 2014 #5
My niece has moved to Germany. postulater Feb 2014 #4
Their Folly IS Their Plan. We Are Mistaken Because Their Actions ARE NOT Folly To Them. TheMastersNemesis Feb 2014 #6
You are right of course. And it seems endemic to the capitalist format of economic relationships. postulater Feb 2014 #8
Just a reminder, SamKnause Feb 2014 #7
You Are Correct On All Counts TheMastersNemesis Feb 2014 #9
I will never understand the anti union crowd. SamKnause Feb 2014 #10
Interestingly, moondust Feb 2014 #11

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
2. They don't remember what happened the last time they tried to sell stuff
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 01:57 PM
Feb 2014

to the 3rd World. Remember the idea of oil for the lamps of China? Yeah, it didn't work out well at all for American businesses.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
3. Finding pro-worker candidates isn't so much of a problem
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 02:00 PM
Feb 2014

Pro-worker officials on the other hand seem to be almost vanishingly rare.

It's rather like the particle/wave duality of a photon, you get pro-worker rhetoric when testing for electability but when testing for bipartisanship the pro-corporate spin is observed.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
5. Such An Observation Is True.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 02:08 PM
Feb 2014

Progressive pro worker candidates would be a lot more common if they won elections convincingly. I live in a district where our rep must act center right to win. There are so many stressed and marginalized voters they won't vote pro labor. My take is that their mind set is all about racist. The GOP keeps playing the same theme that pro labor somehow means such candidates will give your tax money to lazy takers. The implication is that they are minorities.

The mental set is like virus you cannot get rid of and voters act on it. The most economically challenged people I run into are so jaded by hate they will VOTE GOP even if they are told by the GOP itself they will economically shoot them.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
4. My niece has moved to Germany.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 02:05 PM
Feb 2014

And a friend of my daughter is studying Indonesian so she has a job when she graduates. Overseas of course.

My daughter graduated as a civil engineer and can't find work here.

American corporations have used up our resources and our work force and are taking their jobs and production to places with lower labor costs and lots of consumers. They should no longer be considered as American corporations.

You are right, they don't care. Yet we continue to think that they will if we just convince them of their folly.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
6. Their Folly IS Their Plan. We Are Mistaken Because Their Actions ARE NOT Folly To Them.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 02:11 PM
Feb 2014

Unless the issue is forced federally and companies are penalized for moving jobs off shoring will continue.

SamKnause

(13,101 posts)
7. Just a reminder,
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 02:17 PM
Feb 2014

President Obama is the one trying to fast track the TPP.

P.S. President Obama signed 3 new "Trade Deals"; South Korea, Colombia, and Panama.

I believe in honest and fair criticism.

Bill Clinton signed NAFTA.

Both sides are so far up the ass of the CEO's, Wall Street, the military industrial complex, and global corporations that we the people are of little concern.

Both sides aid and abet monopolies.

Both sides aid and abet corruption.

Social issues (equality for all, equal pay for women, abortion, contraception, etc.) and religion and the only divides that I can find that separate the two parties.

Corporations are people (fuck you Supreme Court) and they have more rights than you, or I.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
9. You Are Correct On All Counts
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 05:19 PM
Feb 2014

Social issue now are the divide between the parties. And the Dems have moved right out of necessity on economics. With the fall of the unions and wages the Dems have only corporations and business left for money to stay competitive. It was all planned.

I still believe that if the voters would support truly progressive policies the Dems would be there. A lot of people now do no believe in unions or government regulation after years of propaganda linking such ideas as communistic. That claim of course in not true.

So labor and employment is now naked before the wolves so to speak. The trade agreement are a mistake for just about every nation. They are designed to create a one world economy where there will always be cheap labor somewhere to exploit.

SamKnause

(13,101 posts)
10. I will never understand the anti union crowd.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 05:39 PM
Feb 2014

I disagree with everything the Tea Party and the Republicans stand for.

The Progressives and the Democratic party have let the Tea Party and Republicans steamroll them.

They have moved so far to the right, they are useless.

Add the corruption of both parties to the mix and it is just infuriating.

When the United States Post Office goes down for the count and their union disappears, there will be no coming back for unions, or workers in the US.

It sickens me.

I am looking forward to leaving this planet.

I feel as if I don't belong here.

Too many battles, struggles, and stress.

Poverty has sucked the very life out of me.

moondust

(19,976 posts)
11. Interestingly,
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 06:13 PM
Feb 2014

old bigot Pat Buchanan is roughly on the same page, though careful to conveniently begin his timeline with Bush I so as to downplay his own responsibility when working for Nixon, Ford, and hero Reagan:

~

At the Cold War's end, the GOP reached a fork in the road. The determination of Middle Americans to preserve the country they grew up in, suddenly collided with the profit motive of Corporate America.

The Fortune 500 wanted to close factories in the USA and ship production abroad — where unions did not exist, regulations were light, taxes were low, and wages were a fraction of what they were here in America.

Corporate America was going global and wanted to be rid of its American work force, the best paid on earth, and replace it with cheap foreign labor.

While manufacturing sought to move production abroad, hotels, motels, bars, restaurants, farms and construction companies that could not move abroad also wanted to replace their expensive American workers.

Thanks to the Republican Party, Corporate America got it all.

~more~

http://www.creators.com/conservative/pat-buchanan/how-the-gop-lost-middle-america.html

Did Nixon really go to China on behalf of corporations salivating at the potential for unlimited cheap labor and billions of customers?


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