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sheshe2

(83,730 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 10:47 PM Feb 2014

4-year-old Anala Beevers Accepted into MENSA with IQ of 145



This Black History Month, we'd thought it would be great to highlight some young people who represent an impressive Black future.

Sabrina and Landon Beevers attest that their daughter, Anala, learned the alphabet at only 4 months old, and it's hard to doubt them because Anala has an IQ over 145. The New Orleans toddler was invited to join Mensa, the high-IQ society for people who score at the 98th percentile or higher on the standardized intelligence test last June. Anala is in the 99th percentile.

That was more than half a year ago. Surely, Anala is successfully multiplying fractions by now.

Video at the Link.

http://shine.forharriet.com/2014/02/4-year-old-anala-beevers-accepted-into.html

I found more here

'I'm FOUR and smarter than my parents': Toddler who can recite every capital city and boasts IQ over 145 becomes Mensa's newest member

Anala Beevers from New Orleans learned the alphabet when she was four months old and by 18 months had mastered numbers in Spanish


Brainy: Anala Beevers, aged four, who can recite the capital of every country and U.S. state


Lost in thought: The four-year-old's current preoccupation is learning the names of the planets and dinosaurs

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2380978/Toddler-Anala-Beevers-boasts-IQ-145-Mensas-newest-member.html#ixzz2sJsRlydM
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4-year-old Anala Beevers Accepted into MENSA with IQ of 145 (Original Post) sheshe2 Feb 2014 OP
She is a power house at 4 years old....abc's at 4 months..ha ha. Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #1
Dad said she was a handful, I bet she is. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #5
I'll bet we have a few congresscritters who don't know their ABCs. NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #7
Oh I feel your pain, sheshe2 Feb 2014 #9
lol. +1. nt clarice Feb 2014 #80
yea...sounds like she is likely higher than 145...probably too hard to really measure a 4 year old. Lucky Luciano Feb 2014 #98
K&R burrowowl Feb 2014 #2
I concur Mira Feb 2014 #14
Yes. Look at her eyes. Maybe it is just my imagination, but she looks really scary smart. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #62
Doesn't IQ measure higher as folks age? TBF Feb 2014 #68
IQ test scores are normed for age AngryAmish Feb 2014 #108
Right on. 2naSalit Feb 2014 #3
Wow sakabatou Feb 2014 #4
k&r handmade34 Feb 2014 #6
Good for Anala being so intelligent at four. Nice addition Cha Feb 2014 #8
Good kick off indeed Cha! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #10
More to come! DeSwiss Feb 2014 #11
I rejected Mensa membership Galileo126 Feb 2014 #12
If you knew anything about Mensa Demeter Feb 2014 #19
Thank you for speaking up. murielm99 Feb 2014 #36
I Went To A Couple Of Meeting In Chicago ProfessorGAC Feb 2014 #88
+1 spinbaby Feb 2014 #115
Where to even begin? ..... Nah, no point. nt Hekate Feb 2014 #20
I agree. Anyone with a high enough SAT score or a high enough score on pnwmom Feb 2014 #26
Why post this? Bragging? Weird to me! nt Logical Feb 2014 #28
As a Mensa member, you're not talking about me or others I know. SharonAnn Feb 2014 #46
What exactly do you do? woolldog Feb 2014 #119
I joined Mensa a long time ago but let my membership lapse soon after. Kablooie Feb 2014 #49
Sure you did. Vashta Nerada Feb 2014 #55
.that's precisely how I feel about people who allegedly turn down memberships to MENSA... LanternWaste Feb 2014 #90
. Glassunion Feb 2014 #99
This little girl really is impressive. I like her. Archae Feb 2014 #13
The monthly journal accepts paid advertising. I've never met any of those people, altho... Hekate Feb 2014 #21
It's not just advertising. Archae Feb 2014 #24
Mostly I don't read the magazine, but occasionally have found articles of interest. Hekate Feb 2014 #32
I've known about three dozen people who've self-identified as MENSA members Orrex Feb 2014 #22
Kind of like DU on a slow news day. LanternWaste Feb 2014 #91
LOL! Hekate Feb 2014 #100
Impressive little one! calimary Feb 2014 #15
Hi, calimary! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #16
Beautiful! Phlem Feb 2014 #17
How is that possible? Deep13 Feb 2014 #18
But with poorer memory, Rain Man, if I remember correctly, had eidetic memory. Humanist_Activist Feb 2014 #29
Yeah, remembered everything and could count really fast too. nt Deep13 Feb 2014 #74
George W Bush can't even say the word "nuclear". lpbk2713 Feb 2014 #23
. ReRe Feb 2014 #34
Neither can Sarah Palin indie9197 Feb 2014 #39
I suspect she has Eidetic Memory. Promethean Feb 2014 #25
Could you remind what that is again? Orrex Feb 2014 #27
Photographic Memory - TBF Feb 2014 #69
That will help you on a lot of things... kjones Feb 2014 #75
Agree - TBF Feb 2014 #78
Open up the doors and let her go as far as she wants to! kestrel91316 Feb 2014 #30
The nicest thing about Mensa is being in a group where you are "normal" at least part-time Hekate Feb 2014 #31
Good to see you Hekate. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #33
I agree. It is the one place murielm99 Feb 2014 #37
Re aspies: There's a high tolerance for "difference" Hekate Feb 2014 #101
You don't feel "normal" around ordinary folk? Really? delrem Feb 2014 #40
I think you mean validation. However, age & chronic depression have ensured I "fit in" wherever. Hekate Feb 2014 #64
So I recently joined the 999 society. NYC_SKP May 2015 #120
Big surprise to see this old thread pop up. I hope you enjoy yourself meeting new people.... Hekate May 2015 #122
She should join one of the selective high-IQ societies. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2014 #35
What she >should< do is be a normal kid with lots of interests Hekate Feb 2014 #38
Bingo! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #44
Yep she can join those groups when she's an adult if she wants to. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2014 #83
That's why I left in college and returned in my 30s. I saw the same UU connections you did... Hekate Feb 2014 #89
You're right. Programmers too. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2014 #96
My nephew's son knew all the capitols at 4. His very r/w religious parents loudsue Feb 2014 #41
From your mouth to Gawds ear, loudsue! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #43
You should see this little guy. He looks up into his parents faces and says loudsue Feb 2014 #47
My son was five mzteris Feb 2014 #52
IQ 210 Kim Ung-Yong always impressed me doing calculus at age 4 on TV. Lucky Luciano Feb 2014 #42
“Society should not judge anyone with unilateral standards" jsr Feb 2014 #70
I read about that as well - he seems pretty well adjusted and desires a simple life. nt Lucky Luciano Feb 2014 #97
My son was reading a few months before his 3rd birthday, BobTheSubgenius Feb 2014 #45
Oh my! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #48
What did he go on to do? MrMickeysMom Feb 2014 #50
Your last line is . . . not surprising, for a child like that. pnwmom Feb 2014 #59
A lot of smart kids drop out and get a GED because they are bored. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2014 #85
She also has an IQ of OMG THAT KID IS SO CUTE I COULD POP! nt tblue37 Feb 2014 #51
She sure is, tblue. n/t sheshe2 Feb 2014 #54
My daughter learned advanced algebra at age 2, delrem Feb 2014 #53
impressive marions ghost Feb 2014 #86
does she acuse chestnuts of being lazy ? NM_Birder Feb 2014 #93
she bounces on the couch a lot delrem Feb 2014 #94
is it...an "evil" couch ? NM_Birder Feb 2014 #95
Sooo.... RobinA Feb 2014 #104
How could they tell she knew the alphabet at four months? treestar Feb 2014 #56
Mensa... People obsessed with their intelligence. nt longship Feb 2014 #57
Are you really willing to speak with authority about this, or are you just sad? NYC_SKP May 2015 #121
"I'm FOUR and smarter than my parents" -- OK, let's talk turkey here: struggle4progress Feb 2014 #58
I think every 4 year old thinks that, and she might be in a lot of ways. pnwmom Feb 2014 #60
Wisdom comes with experience, not age, but right on otherwise. n/t FSogol Feb 2014 #73
FYI, I, like most mammals can regulate my body temperature. FSogol Feb 2014 #72
If you have conscious control of your body temp, then I am impressed struggle4progress Feb 2014 #82
For heaven's sake don't showcase her! Laffy Kat Feb 2014 #61
+1 MadrasT Feb 2014 #65
Now there's a brain the right wing will be after! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #63
I have mixed feelings about this. MadrasT Feb 2014 #66
+1. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #67
Agree. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2014 #76
I sincerely hope they don't go the reality show route. arcane1 Feb 2014 #81
I hope the little smartie changes her name! Quantess Feb 2014 #71
The name is beautiful and has meaning. bravenak Feb 2014 #77
I ain't in MENSA, but I suspect that the comment referred to Ms Beevers' surname. Orrex Feb 2014 #102
That's weird. bravenak Feb 2014 #103
No. Quantess Feb 2014 #106
Kids are indeed cruel. Orrex Feb 2014 #109
You hadn't considered the "anal" in Anala? OK, obviously the parents hadn't either. Quantess Feb 2014 #110
No, I hadn't considered anal, but thanks for asking. Orrex Feb 2014 #111
Sorry, I just think it's not a good name. Quantess Feb 2014 #116
I should perhaps state clearly that I agree with you Orrex Feb 2014 #117
you get what I'm thinking. Anyway. Quantess Feb 2014 #118
I think Anala, is a beautiful name. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #113
amazing.... clarice Feb 2014 #79
I wonder how many more weeks (days?) will pass before Lunacee_2013 Feb 2014 #84
Alphabet at 4 Months ProfessorGAC Feb 2014 #87
I feel particularly humbled when I read of even the typical genius... LanternWaste Feb 2014 #92
Am I RobinA Feb 2014 #105
Why? Because her name is Anala Beevers? Quantess Feb 2014 #107
I'm Not Sure RobinA Feb 2014 #112
Kind of like walking at 6 months. Both are not physically possible. But oh, those eyes! Still libdem4life Feb 2014 #114

Mira

(22,380 posts)
14. I concur
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:34 PM
Feb 2014

My kid was a powerhouse. He shocked me at 15 months reading: H - O - O - V - E - not E standing on the vaccuum cleaner. And looking at the window 2 months later saying: 6 squares. (he just inhaled Sesame Street and "got it&quot
He entered school reading at 6th grade level and 3rd grade math.
I did not allow his IQ being measured because I was a single Mom and overwhelmed already. I said I needed all my power to discipline him and remain smarter than he.

At age 18 he took a three day Mensa test.
178 was his score. I think this kid is way higher than 145.

Great story - great kid - and if given the proper head start / training / encouragement / a parent at home til age 3 / lack of grave money problems or family drama -------in my opinion our world is full of such children.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
62. Yes. Look at her eyes. Maybe it is just my imagination, but she looks really scary smart.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:48 AM
Feb 2014

What you call an old soul.

She is pretty besides. Lucky little girl. I bet her parents and people who get to know her well love her very much. She looks she has great parents. Since for humans, it is survival of the most nurtured. She will do well.

TBF

(32,047 posts)
68. Doesn't IQ measure higher as folks age?
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:14 PM
Feb 2014

She's only 4. Her parents are going to have their hands full finding resources for her.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
108. IQ test scores are normed for age
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 04:04 PM
Feb 2014

So an adult if graded for four year olds scores very high.

The problem with IQ tests and the young are twofold. First, the tests themselves are diagnostic aids trying to find out who is mentally challenged. The high end is really not designed for in these tests. Second, there is a lot of learning of the tests. In most situations you can only give any psychometric/neuropsychological test once a year, to give the subject some time to forget the test. Giving a kid an IQ test every week will greatly inflate their score.

lil AA was given an IQ test to get into a gifted school. I got a few copies of the test and made her do it a few weeks before the real test. She scored a 142. According to mr. google this makes her smarter than 99.4803893690% of all 5 year olds. She is a smart kid but not that smart. (Based upon me and her mom, accounting for regression to the mean her IQ most likely is in the 125 area.) And because we live in a fancy neighborhood, she didn't get into the gifted school! I think the cutoff was 146 this year. But it is the best school in the state which it should be if the lowest IQ in the school is !46...

Anyway, we won a lottery and got into the magnet school of our choice so we did not have to move.

2naSalit

(86,528 posts)
3. Right on.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:06 PM
Feb 2014

I wonder what she'll focus on as she gets older. Some people are just born with intellect from another place.

Galileo126

(2,016 posts)
12. I rejected Mensa membership
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:32 PM
Feb 2014

when I was a kid, but KUDOS to Anala!

I think Mensa a self-serving group of wanna-bees, who do nothing more than pat themselves on the back for being 'smart", without actually advacing humanity. I love the fact that Alana made the 'cut', but damn...I hope she moves away from 'membership' and into advancing us all.

I'm doing my best in my late 40s, but help is needed.

No one is an Island, and yet no one is an Ocean either.

Rock on, Anala...

-gali

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
19. If you knew anything about Mensa
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:49 PM
Feb 2014

you would know how totally prejudiced and uninformed you are.

But don't bother joining, with your attitude, you are sure to be a failure at it. No room for tin-plated gods there.

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
36. Thank you for speaking up.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:08 AM
Feb 2014

I have enjoyed my Mensa membership for the last eleven years.

Any time Mensa is mentioned here, a large number of people come out of the woodwork, mention how high their IQ's are, and how they have "rejected" Mensa membership. As if Mensa goes around recruiting. People investigate Mensa voluntarily, and take the test if they elect to do so.

As you know, Mensa is a social organization. They have no designs for world domination or for creating special interest groups to present or promote a point of view. There is no single point of view in Mensa.

ProfessorGAC

(64,993 posts)
88. I Went To A Couple Of Meeting In Chicago
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:47 PM
Feb 2014

That was pretty long ago. But, i'm not a joiner so the social organization thing didn't do much for me.

That's not the organization, that's me.
GAC

spinbaby

(15,088 posts)
115. +1
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 05:24 PM
Feb 2014

I've been a Mensa member for 30 years now and have always enjoyed the company of people I don't have to explain my jokes to.

pnwmom

(108,974 posts)
26. I agree. Anyone with a high enough SAT score or a high enough score on
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:24 AM
Feb 2014

one of 200 tests may apply.

They prey on insecure people who need to brag about how smart they are.

http://www.us.mensa.org/AML/?LinkServID=005EB3F7-B83A-44BA-B4FFD5114A1AC31D


SAT cut-off score

prior to 9/30/1974 1300
from 9/30/1974 to 1/31/1994 1250
after 1/31/1994 N/A


SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
46. As a Mensa member, you're not talking about me or others I know.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:50 AM
Feb 2014

The way I look at it, I have a talent that measures high on IQ tests. Some people have the physical ability to run 4 minute miles, some people have perfect pitch, etc.

These are talents and we use them in all sorts of ways. The Mensans I know are generally liberal in political philosophy, participate in community organizations, volunteer their time, and contribute their money. Some of us are successful financially, musically, academically, in leadership, or ..., etc. Some of us are not successfully by most measured criteria. In other words, we're a varied group. From financiers to hippies, from professional women to homemakers, etc..

I love spending time with both my Mensa friends and with my non-Mensa friends.

Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
49. I joined Mensa a long time ago but let my membership lapse soon after.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:56 AM
Feb 2014

All the people I met were interested mainly in impressing everyone else how intelligent they were.
The conversations were all one upsmanship style.

There was also a guy who had invented his own game because chess was too simplistic.
He kept pushing me to play him at his own game and then gloated when he won.

I went to about 3 functions and never went back.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
90. .that's precisely how I feel about people who allegedly turn down memberships to MENSA...
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:58 PM
Feb 2014

"who do nothing more than pat themselves on the back for being 'smart", without actually advacing (sic) humanity..."

Odd...that's precisely how I feel about people who tell others that they've allegedly turned down memberships to MENSA in order to advertise how clever they are.

Archae

(46,317 posts)
13. This little girl really is impressive. I like her.
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:34 PM
Feb 2014

What would really impress me, if she dropped out of MENSA.

MENSA is infested with just about any and every "paranormal" nonsense you can imagine.
Their magazine is full of ads for psychics, UFO conspiracy books, 9-11 Truthers, the works.

James Randi was in MENSA, he dropped out due to the sheer volume of crap he saw there.

Hekate

(90,642 posts)
21. The monthly journal accepts paid advertising. I've never met any of those people, altho...
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:59 PM
Feb 2014

.... I did meet a gun nut once during the Clinton administration. He told me he was going to bury his collection 6 feet under in his back yard before letting the government take them away. I looked at him in utter sincerity and said: "Good idea." Wasn't a regular.

Archae

(46,317 posts)
24. It's not just advertising.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:10 AM
Feb 2014

They had articles in their magazine about Roswell, including that "Roswell autopsy film," years after it had been exposed as a hoax.
And the articles were all, I do mean ALL, what we skeptics call an "FTB."

Hekate

(90,642 posts)
32. Mostly I don't read the magazine, but occasionally have found articles of interest.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:41 AM
Feb 2014

Nothing quite that fancy, however.

Orrex

(63,200 posts)
22. I've known about three dozen people who've self-identified as MENSA members
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:03 AM
Feb 2014

Every single one of them fits the description that you outlined.

I imagine that all MENSA members aren't like that, but the ones who are like that constitute an off-puttingly visible minority.


YMMV

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
91. Kind of like DU on a slow news day.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 05:01 PM
Feb 2014

"MENSA is infested with just about any and every "paranormal" nonsense you can imagine..."

Kind of like DU on a slow news day...

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
18. How is that possible?
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:47 PM
Feb 2014

Why aren't we all like that? I'm pretty smart, but this kid is going to make me look like the Rain Man by comparison.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
29. But with poorer memory, Rain Man, if I remember correctly, had eidetic memory.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:31 AM
Feb 2014

Of course, not having that type of memory myself, I could be wrong.

TBF

(32,047 posts)
69. Photographic Memory -
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:18 PM
Feb 2014

my family suspected one of my aunts had it. It isn't connected with intelligence - it is a perfect recall of printed materials.

kjones

(1,053 posts)
75. That will help you on a lot of things...
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:33 PM
Feb 2014

but it won't help you figure out the pattern in a string of numbers or
reason out a logic problem.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
30. Open up the doors and let her go as far as she wants to!
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:31 AM
Feb 2014

That little girl has a future that will put most of us to shame (and I say that as another Mensan).

Hekate

(90,642 posts)
31. The nicest thing about Mensa is being in a group where you are "normal" at least part-time
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:38 AM
Feb 2014

I hope Anala's school believes in placing their children by ability, and challenging them accordingly. A peer group of sorts provides social nourishment, comfort that you are not a freak (especially after this very public announcement), and understanding that talent is spread about among others; that being really smart is a great gift that allows you to see the world differently, but that it is not the only gift there is.

Regarding the negative and ignorant comments here from people who kinda sorta passed through the organization:

Most of my life's best friends, including my husband, came from the local Mensa group. I've never traveled to Regional Gatherings, but some have done so year after year with great enjoyment. We're in a small regional group and don't have as much variety to offer as, for instance, gigantic Los Angeles to the south of us -- but when I came here 35 years ago I was in a strange place, newly divorced, and knew no one outside my job as a secretary. I needed to make friends among people who didn't think my point of view was that skewed, and where I didn't have to monitor every comment that came out of my mouth. Some discussions can get quite lively, political opinion runs the gamut, and we have certainly had our share of oddballs. Curiosity, tolerance, kindness, a broad range of interests -- those are the characteristics of my friends. But no one, not one person in my 50 years of membership, has talked about IQ as a personal trait.

sheshe2

(83,730 posts)
33. Good to see you Hekate.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:46 AM
Feb 2014

Thank you for your words. I like this...

"Curiosity, tolerance, kindness, a broad range of interests -- those are the characteristics of my friends."

Anala may have problems adjusting. She is so young, yet with the right guidance, she can do anything.


murielm99

(30,733 posts)
37. I agree. It is the one place
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:16 AM
Feb 2014

where I fit in.

I have never met anyone at a meeting or gathering who tried to impress anyone else with their intelligence. We all know that everyone there is smart! Just have a good time. Cab drivers and doctors are all treated the same. People play games, listen to a planned speaker, eat.

We have aspies in our group. I am impressed by how well they are treated.

I have gone to the HalloweeM AG. It is a good time.

Hekate

(90,642 posts)
101. Re aspies: There's a high tolerance for "difference"
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 09:13 PM
Feb 2014

In my mind it stems back to everyone's adolescence, where being different was painful. Most of us outgrow that, learn to fit in, but we remember and are accepting of those who never did. That is only my personal theory -- YMMV.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
40. You don't feel "normal" around ordinary folk? Really?
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:32 AM
Feb 2014

Don't you think there's something *wrong* about your need for that kind of verification?
It doesn't seem right to me.

Hekate

(90,642 posts)
64. I think you mean validation. However, age & chronic depression have ensured I "fit in" wherever.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:17 AM
Feb 2014

I long ago learned to smile and nod. Now -- wth -- it's just people talking, and if I have any connection to the topic I can do my part. I can always talk about the grand kids; that's universal. It used to be really painful at times while I was still working 40 hours a week, because there was just no escape. Now I have my own interests and people to share them, for which I am grateful. I hope that meets with your approval.

OK, end of defensive snark.

Every human being has an inherent need for validation, and as long as it hurts no one, why should you care if they get it from being in a bowling league or square dancing or the Lions Club? Does it bother you that some people belong to clubs relating to their ethnic heritage, and that you don't qualify? Does it upset you that you can never qualify to play in the NFL? Do you feel excluded and shamed and put-down? Do you automatically assume that the teeny tiny number of humans who can and do belong in the NFL look down on you as a lesser being? No? Then why is it only intelligence and intellectual attainment that make people feel like that?

Think about it.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
120. So I recently joined the 999 society.
Sun May 31, 2015, 03:12 PM
May 2015

Because I could, I guess. My MAT score was high enough and I felt, especially after surviving the aneurism and subsequent head surgeries, that I should treat myself to a lifetime membership and a few pins.

I joined their Facebook and LinkedIn pages and am friendly with one member in SF, but nothing I've seen that is discussed tickles my fancy.

It's interesting just to see what they talk and argue about, as well as their style of argument, or styles.

And I was troubled to see on member use a xenophobic slur to refer to an Iraqi or Syrian, "rag****".

I believe it was on their Facebook Page and they were blocked or something.

Take care, and I'll see you on the boards!



http://www.triplenine.org/HowtoJoin/TestScores.aspx
https://www.facebook.com/groups/tripleninesociety/

Hekate

(90,642 posts)
122. Big surprise to see this old thread pop up. I hope you enjoy yourself meeting new people....
Sun May 31, 2015, 04:20 PM
May 2015

Also, after having your skull worked on like that, I can see how taking on this new challenge would tickle you.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
35. She should join one of the selective high-IQ societies.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:55 AM
Feb 2014

There are some that you have to score 3 SDs above normal on an IQ test to get in. Mensa is 2 SDs which is 130. That's the top 2% of the population.

Three SDs is 145 IQ, or one person out of a thousand. There is the Prometheus Society and the Triple Nine Society, among others.

I scored 148 on a Stanford-Binet at age five, so I would qualify but I won't bother.

Hekate

(90,642 posts)
38. What she >should< do is be a normal kid with lots of interests
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:16 AM
Feb 2014

Level-headed parents and an intelligently-run school will do the rest.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
83. Yep she can join those groups when she's an adult if she wants to.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:07 PM
Feb 2014

I never joined Mensa but a lot of my friends were in it.

In the city where I lived, there was a connection between Mensa, the local community orchestra(classical musicians), and the Unitarian churches and fellowships where people knew each other.

Hekate

(90,642 posts)
89. That's why I left in college and returned in my 30s. I saw the same UU connections you did...
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:50 PM
Feb 2014

... only in my case the big overlap was with the computer programming community. Hmm, in that era programmers often started out with a formal background in music, philosophy, and/or languages, so there you have it. It also made for a nice pool of people that I, a complete non-techie with a background in literature, could have a conversation with.

I only joined in high school out of sheer curiosity, btw. Sadly, it infuriated my mother, but that's another story.

Anyway, I agree with you -- this little girl can seek them out closer to adulthood.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
96. You're right. Programmers too.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 06:26 PM
Feb 2014

Several of the people I knew in the community orchestras were programmers. Women as well as men. A few of them ran SIGs (Special Interest Groups) in the local PC organization, which had many thousands of members.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
41. My nephew's son knew all the capitols at 4. His very r/w religious parents
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:33 AM
Feb 2014

don't know what to do with him: he has told them that he doesn't want to go to church because all the stuff in the bible isn't true. He tells them it doesn't make any logical sense.

I think there are some remarkable super kids about to take over the world. Gawd knows the world sure needs 'em.

sheshe2

(83,730 posts)
43. From your mouth to Gawds ear, loudsue!
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:38 AM
Feb 2014

Love that child.

he doesn't want to go to church because all the stuff in the bible isn't true. He tells them it doesn't make any logical sense.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
47. You should see this little guy. He looks up into his parents faces and says
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:52 AM
Feb 2014

You KNOW all that stuff isn't possible! Right???? Like, he can't get over that they believe it all.

mzteris

(16,232 posts)
52. My son was five
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:11 AM
Feb 2014

When he started refusing to go to church. Of course that was some time after his Sunday school teacher had a chat with me that he was confusing the other children with his questions and comments. Of course, she couldn't answer the questions. Lol

His matter of fact assertion - those stories are so silly. It's impossible (the flood, Noah's ark, etc) dor any of it to be TRUE! and just silly to think some old guy is quote up there floating around in some heaven place above the stars - Snort. You can't be 'above the stars', they're all over the universe! - - that gave me the courage to accept my perennial "lack of faith" and embrace the doubts I had harbored since MY childhood, but was too afraid (brainwashed) to entertain beyond some psychological justification. Religous gerrymandering of the mind, as it were.

"And a child shall lead them . . ." (No pun intended. Ok, maybe a little one.)

jsr

(7,712 posts)
70. “Society should not judge anyone with unilateral standards"
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:41 PM
Feb 2014
http://view.koreaherald.com/kh/view.php?ud=20101006000616&cpv=0

‘Record IQ is just another talent’
Former whiz kid feels happy with ordinary life despite media expectations
Published : 2010-10-06 17:10

CHEONGJU, North Chung­cheong Province ― What will people think of 16-month-old wonder child Jonathon Rader, able to play various musical instruments, if he decides not to pursue a career as a musician?

The answer seems to be “a failure,” when hearing the story from Kim Ung-yong, a 48-year-old record holder for the world’s highest intelligence quotient, in an interview with The Korea Herald.

“I was famous for having a 210 IQ and being able to solve intricate math equations at the age of four,” Kim said, adding, “Apparently, the media belittled the fact that I chose to work in a business planning department at Chungbuk Development Corporation.”

Kim says the media denounced him as a “failed Genius” but he has no idea why his life, which he considers a success, had to be called a failure.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
45. My son was reading a few months before his 3rd birthday,
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:48 AM
Feb 2014

although at a pretty rudimentary level. Before he was 5, he was reading at a high adult level, and made a friend of mine's wife cry because she couldn't understand what he was saying.

When he took a bunch of aptitude tests, he thought it would be fun to do it was fast as he could, as opposed to the best he could. The tests, however much or little you believe in that kind of thing, pegged his IQ at 162.

And.....he never finished high school.

pnwmom

(108,974 posts)
59. Your last line is . . . not surprising, for a child like that.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:34 AM
Feb 2014

People who work with gifted children know that they finish high school in lower percentages than more typical children do. It can be hard for a child at that level to find a place to fit in.

I hope he found his way ahead, even if he didn't take the usual path.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
85. A lot of smart kids drop out and get a GED because they are bored.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:44 PM
Feb 2014

A friend of mine's son dropped out and she insisted he get a GED.
He got a letter from the University of Chicago telling him they wanted to send him to Cambridge University to study physics, which he did.

That's where Stephen Hawking teaches.

The kid travels all over Europe juggling and writing papers on the physics of juggling.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
53. My daughter learned advanced algebra at age 2,
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:45 AM
Feb 2014

got a B.A. with honors in physics at age 4, and instead of pursuing a doctorate in physics and philosophy was recruited into a top secret project by a lettered agency where she now lives at an undisclosed location, working on a plan to fuck over the entire planet.

Not that I'm bragging or anything. After all, at age 1 our daughter already explained that she was not only smarter than her parents but had nothing more to learn from them - even tho' we both graduated summa cum laude in our doctoral programs.

Raising our daughter has been a humbling experience, indeed.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
104. Sooo....
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 03:32 PM
Feb 2014

When the lettered agency wreaks its havoc, do you get to be in the safehouse by virtue of being this wonder child's parents, or do you burn like the rest of us?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
56. How could they tell she knew the alphabet at four months?
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:57 AM
Feb 2014

Astounding. I wonder what she will take up in the long run. Still a kid, though - dinosaurs! Kids just love them.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
121. Are you really willing to speak with authority about this, or are you just sad?
Sun May 31, 2015, 03:30 PM
May 2015

Sad, or confused, or something else?

Gifted people of all sorts suffer from being treated as outcasts.

I would have thought that people would be able to be compassionate about it and not insulting.

struggle4progress

(118,274 posts)
58. "I'm FOUR and smarter than my parents" -- OK, let's talk turkey here:
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:10 AM
Feb 2014

I think most four years olds can say that with complete accuracy and honesty -- just think what you learned from birth to four, and imagine where you'd be now if you'd kept up the same rate of learning: you'd speak a dozen languages by middle age, and you'd have amazing control of your body: shizz, you'd probably have conscious control of your heart-rate and blood-pressure, be able to sweat or not at will, and you'd consciously crank your body temperature up and down to deal with the weather

Why can't we do all that? Face it: we've been slackers

pnwmom

(108,974 posts)
60. I think every 4 year old thinks that, and she might be in a lot of ways.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:36 AM
Feb 2014

Unimportant ways, like being an encyclopedia of dinosaurs.

But real wisdom, as opposed to minds like little calculators, does come with age.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
61. For heaven's sake don't showcase her!
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:37 AM
Feb 2014

She will spend the rest of her life trying to live up to high expectations. Let her be four-years-old!

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
66. I have mixed feelings about this.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 05:16 AM
Feb 2014

I was a "special" kid and the expectations that went along with that nearly destroyed me.

Forty some years later and my parents are still apologizing.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
71. I hope the little smartie changes her name!
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:44 PM
Feb 2014

Awful name... although clearly her parents are doing something right, they sure picked a lousy first name for her.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
77. The name is beautiful and has meaning.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:46 PM
Feb 2014

Anala
The name Anala is a baby girl name.
Hindi Meaning:
The name Anala is a Hindi baby name. In Hindi the meaning of the name Anala is: Fiery.

You would probably hate mine too. I've only met one other Bianca in my life, but I've met a few Anala's. Nice girls too.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
106. No.
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 03:49 PM
Feb 2014

Although the combination of the first and last names WILL guaranteed, subject her to some teasing.
I just don't get someone calling their child a variant of anal. At least, that's what I first thought of, when I saw Anala- "anal". Hey, I'm just being honest here. I think it's an unfortunate name.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
110. You hadn't considered the "anal" in Anala? OK, obviously the parents hadn't either.
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 04:47 PM
Feb 2014

Nobody will be able to pronounce the name well enough to anyone's satisfaction.

Orrex

(63,200 posts)
111. No, I hadn't considered anal, but thanks for asking.
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 04:55 PM
Feb 2014

In terms of pronunciation, "un-NAH-lah" seems pretty satisfactory, but what do I know?

Though now that you've mentioned it, the unfortunate joke is impossible to un-see.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
116. Sorry, I just think it's not a good name.
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 10:54 PM
Feb 2014

I "stole" the name Quantess from a little black girl, because it's such a great name. Now that is a good first name!

Anala is not a good first name, it just reminds me of "anal", sorry. I don't intend to pick on the girl's name the whole time, but I think she'd be wise to change it to something less anal sounding.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
118. you get what I'm thinking. Anyway.
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 11:27 PM
Feb 2014

My grand suggestion, to those who are expecting daughters: name your daughter Quantess. That is an excellent first name! Please, nothing that reminds us of an anus.

sheshe2

(83,730 posts)
113. I think Anala, is a beautiful name.
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 05:14 PM
Feb 2014

It means Fiery, I would say that it suits her.

I like yours too, Bianca.

Lunacee_2013

(529 posts)
84. I wonder how many more weeks (days?) will pass before
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 04:12 PM
Feb 2014

she starts asking her parents questions they literally can't answer.

145 IQ at age four? Wooo, damn! She's just a few points behind me and I'm 28! Her parents should write down everything they did with her and make a book. I know I'd buy it. If I ever have a kid, or kids, I want them to be like Anala. We should figure out the factors behind brilliant children like her.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
92. I feel particularly humbled when I read of even the typical genius...
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 05:06 PM
Feb 2014

I feel particularly humbled when I read of even the typical genius, but reading of a four year old whose IQ is vastly greater than mine takes that humility into uncharted waters of humazing (humility + amazing-- a new word I coined for less than clever people like myself).

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
112. I'm Not Sure
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 05:12 PM
Feb 2014

what her name has to do with it. Alphabet at 4 months? Four month olds can't even see that well, let alone communicate letters. If she did know the alphabet, how would we know? I dunno, seems a tad much.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
114. Kind of like walking at 6 months. Both are not physically possible. But oh, those eyes! Still
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 05:18 PM
Feb 2014

a darn smart little girl. Sounds like her parents are on the right track giving her opportunities. The hardest will be keeping egos and expectations within the chronological and emotional age range.

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