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global1

(25,241 posts)
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:05 PM Feb 2014

Why Would Crispy Keep On Still Denying Any Knowledge Of The Bridge Lane Closings If There Is A.....

chance that some bit of the subpoenaed documents can implicate him? Isn't he digging himself a bigger hole by this? Cause if anything is revealed that he in fact had some knowledge of the closing that contradicts any of his prior statements - he's toast.
Who would be advising him of this strategy to continue to deny and to try and discredit people that he in fact had something to do with their being hired?

I just don't get it.

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Why Would Crispy Keep On Still Denying Any Knowledge Of The Bridge Lane Closings If There Is A..... (Original Post) global1 Feb 2014 OP
Maybe he truly didnt know BUT that makes him incompetent bigdarryl Feb 2014 #1
I think it's very possible he might not have known - or let me restate - he knows there is Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2014 #4
I can hear it now, "if you can't control your state, then you can't control the country" SummerSnow Feb 2014 #18
The argument that if he didn't know, he is imcompetent goldent Feb 2014 #20
Because the real truth is worse Geddy Ringo Feb 2014 #2
If he really did not know, he is incompetent. Dawson Leery Feb 2014 #3
He doesn't email and rarely texts for that very reason. he doesn't want records of what was said and okaawhatever Feb 2014 #5
Plausible scenario marions ghost Feb 2014 #19
Christie's story keeps shifting in subtle ways. He said just over a month ago that no one bluestate10 Feb 2014 #6
Because every prosecutor knows ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #7
He was born in de-Nile, lives in de-Nile davidpdx Feb 2014 #8
Because, SummerSnow Feb 2014 #9
Like trickle-down economics, and it was Sadam's fault, and guns are OK. lindysalsagal Feb 2014 #12
lol...so so true. Let's call it trickle down bullshit SummerSnow Feb 2014 #17
Same reason he came out in the 2 hours presser and denied everything Cha Feb 2014 #10
I said it on day one! He didn't know! nt Logical Feb 2014 #11
He's hoping to survive with "he said she said" flamingdem Feb 2014 #13
Panic and desperation, combined with the hubris of never having been called to account before. nt tblue37 Feb 2014 #14
Well... NobodyHere Feb 2014 #15
Independents ARE watching... marions ghost Feb 2014 #21
Why does any politician lie when caught in a scandal? justiceischeap Feb 2014 #16
Because he isn't yet under oath, is why. Right now it's all P.R. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #22
Christie never sent e-mails because they are easy to produce Gothmog Feb 2014 #23
 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
1. Maybe he truly didnt know BUT that makes him incompetent
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:12 PM
Feb 2014

And has no control of his staff people.And if he runs in 2016 you can bet the other republican candidates will bring that in to light.Santorum has already brought it up

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
4. I think it's very possible he might not have known - or let me restate - he knows there is
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:22 PM
Feb 2014

no proof he knew/participated. The guy's a ex-prosecutor....he would have to be really
stupid to leave proof. Like I said before....that is why he was so pissed at Kelly - she
broke the cardinal rule - left proof

goldent

(1,582 posts)
20. The argument that if he didn't know, he is imcompetent
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 09:28 AM
Feb 2014

never seems to work. I've seen it tried many times, and bottom line, if there is no proof showing he had his hands in it, the issue will fade away.

 

Geddy Ringo

(13 posts)
2. Because the real truth is worse
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:18 PM
Feb 2014

If he ends up taking the fall for the bridge closure, maybe the investigations stop there and no one will find out the truth that they don't want anyone to find out.

(hint: an unnamed major political party played fast and loose with sandy relief money)

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
5. He doesn't email and rarely texts for that very reason. he doesn't want records of what was said and
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:30 PM
Feb 2014

done. That's why he has people around him day and night doing the texting. He meets with people face to face or over the phone. that being said, I think the reason it took him so long to respond initially was because he was checking to see what incriminating info was out there. I think at this point there may not be a document that comes from him stating the plan (that's too obvious for a former federal prosecutor like him) but there might be a document where one person says something about him knowing. Like, Christie is okay with bridge plan, etc.
However, that investigation has opened the door to so much more. I really think he didn't expect it to get this big or else he wouldn't have denied it during that press conference on Sunday. He was confident at that point that there wasn't a smoking gun out there on him. He didn't anticipate Wildstein being as pissed as he was or having Kornacki or other journalists dig up as much as they did. I think when Christie started the whole denial thing he thought it would be over in a week or two and the blame would fall on his employees.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
6. Christie's story keeps shifting in subtle ways. He said just over a month ago that no one
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:33 PM
Feb 2014

in his office knew about what happened at Fort Lee. But tonight he said that he became aware there was a problem when Pat Foye, the New York State Executive member sent out email about the lane closings. If one believes Christie's story from tonight, he would have been in the middle of the email exchanges concerning the lane shutdowns. Christie, a person who micro-manages, knew nothing about the closures - hard to believe.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
7. Because every prosecutor knows ...
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 11:48 PM
Feb 2014

when caught in a lie ... the liar must keep telling that same lie. And for just the reason you indicate ... "Why Would Crispy Keep On Still Denying Any Knowledge Of The Bridge Lane Closings If There Is A chance that some bit of the subpoenaed documents can implicate him? Isn't he digging himself a bigger hole by this?"

It's called "reasonable doubt."

lindysalsagal

(20,670 posts)
12. Like trickle-down economics, and it was Sadam's fault, and guns are OK.
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 01:48 AM
Feb 2014

"You have to catapult the propaganda over and over.". G.W. Bush

Cha

(297,154 posts)
10. Same reason he came out in the 2 hours presser and denied everything
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:58 AM
Feb 2014

and said he knew nothing and neither did his staff. He thought he could get away with it.

Rachel caught him in at least one lie right away.

'Cause that's all he has is playing dumb.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
13. He's hoping to survive with "he said she said"
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 02:07 AM
Feb 2014

since that's his only chance. He may know there's nothing on paper to incriminate him and he'll just keep attacking hoping he looks semi innocent.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
15. Well...
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 06:10 AM
Feb 2014

IMO if a smoking gun gets revealed Christie is done anyways, no matter what he does. So he's not really "digging himself a bigger hole".

If a smoking gun doesn't get produced, Christie and his allies will just call everything a partisan smear campaign against him. The left will still hate him and the right will still love him. The moderates won't care in the end, after 2016 is still a long ways away. His stance enables him to walk away with more credibility than if he went the Wildstein route and screams for immunity.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
21. Independents ARE watching...
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 09:50 AM
Feb 2014

and everything goes back to the governor, smoking gun or not.

Also the exposure of Sandy money mishandling is beyond labels of a "partisan smear campaign."

Christie has little credibility in this. He's playing the Poor Little Me game. Doesn't get you much respect. Somebody call the Wahhhhmmmbulance.

And I don't think the right (business element) is exactly loving him. The tea party has never been big supporters amirite?

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Christie is dead meat. Watching the corrupt narcissist fool twist in the wind is refreshing. For once we get to see karma bite a big Rethug bully right in the ass.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
16. Why does any politician lie when caught in a scandal?
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 06:14 AM
Feb 2014

Look at Anthony Weiner and the story he concocted--which was quickly and easily disproved.

The problem is, even if Christie didn't know, that makes him look incompetent and there will always be doubt about what he did or didn't know following him like a plague. I doubt he'll get away from this scandal. And besides, it's always the cover-up that brings them down, hardly ever the initial act itself.

Also, this scandal has people digging and it looks as though the misappropriation of Sandy funds is going to be bigger if it can be proven.

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
23. Christie never sent e-mails because they are easy to produce
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 03:24 PM
Feb 2014

Last weeks report from the NYT discussed the fact that Christie never sends e-mails only texts because texts were harder to trace http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/29/nyregion/for-christie-politics-team-kept-a-focus-on-two-bids.html?_r=0

Mr. Christie himself tended to the smallest of details. He personally oversaw appointments to the State Board of Physical Therapy Examiners, legislative leaders said, and when he wanted to discuss something with lawmakers, he texted them himself. (He told one top legislator that he had learned from his experience as United States attorney not to email; texts were harder to trace.)

Christie was running an enterprise where he knew that e-mails were not safe. I have a feeling that we may not find any papers with Christie's fingerprints on them.
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