Ed Schultz on air now 2-4-14 re: Keystone XL

[SHRED]

Justifying Keystone XL in terms of "we" and "our" like it's our oil. He's talking about energy independence as if we've nationalized energy in this country.

He's also talking about how the railroad system is unsafe to transport oil so therefore we need a pipeline. And since our environmental regs are so much better we need to refine it here.

Why is he doing this? He knows better.

[DURHAM D]

1. Maybe he thinks it will create jobs?

I watched him do the same bit on tv last week. He is under-informed.

[fredamae]

2. I Don't Know!

He fails to mention that All oil is sold from the International Market...as I understand it-How has the prior years of Oil Extraction in the US Lowered Our Costs? Increased Our Safety and Protected the Environment?

He's telling us to just "sit down-shut up-there's No hope in fighting this-to make the best of it?" Is that his message?

[SHRED]

8. He is quoting the State Department study

He is cheerleading for Keystone and is talking in condescending terms and tones about people he calls "the greens" and "enviros".

[fredamae]

17. Not One of "Them"

are offering up Any funding and ideas for Green Energy/Tech. No One. Where is the proposal to get at least and for a start get major cities to build as many Electric Charging Stations as there are Gas Stations?
A "can't refuse it" program to help fund the installation of Solar Panels on Every Roof-Top-everywhere? etc's

No-this is being sold as a singular energy source. I am going out on a limb here-but at Any time in the past did Any of the Corporation NOT make Incredible Environmental Protection/Clean-Up declarations--now-look at WV, TX MN, PA again--etc's.

My answer is No.

[PoliticalPothead]

3. Screw Ed Schultz.

I lost all respect for that man when he started being a huge dick to people who were asking him to meet with NBC workers. Accusing his critics of "income envy." Fuck him.

[alsame]

4. I suspect he's been

told that it's a done deal and he's trying to help sell it to us.

[SHRED]

5. a Whitehouse salesman I think

[alsame]

7. Yep. He's mentioned in the past

that he's been invited to WH meetings with other talking heads.

I think he's trying to soften the blow when the approval comes.

[jehop61]

6. He's a buddy

of Brian Schweizer, who is for keystone and is thinking about running in 2016 against Hilliary

[SHRED]

10. and he's from North Dakota... Lots of oil there

[bullwinkle428]

13. Even Schweitzer was throwing cold water on Ed's "jobs" argument

the other day, by saying that there would be only around 9000 construction jobs for 2 years, and then just a few hundred long-term for inspection, maintenance, monitoring, etc.

[jwirr]

18. And that is who he was talking to. I like Ed but I do not agree with him on every single thing.

Speaking of pipelines. I have posted a few times about the pipeline going through NE MN around the Cloquet/Duluth area. I think they have a problem. There is heavy equipment and workers at the site and they have the wood they used in the original project piled by the road. Now it is way below 0 degrees around here and no one does that kind of work unless there is a leak or something like that going on. I also heard by the grapevine that there is a leak.

More than likely they did not bury the pipes deep enough for this cold and they broke. Wish I knew just what is going on.

[GoCubsGo]

31. I think he also got freaked out over a train wreck.

It was this one:
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-north-dakota-oil-train-crash-investigation-20140113,0,3756870.story

I don't think he's selling out so much as convincing himself that this is the lesser of two evils for something that he believes is inevitable. And, from that perspective, I agree with him. The pipeline is the lesser of two evils. What I really wish he and everyone else would do, instead of trying to justify the pipeline, is ask why the hell we are the ones risking our environment for Canadian oil that will be sold on the international market. Why isn't this pipleline built strictly in Canada. They have refineries. They have ports. Oh yeah. They also have stricter environmental regulations, unlike this country. It's looking more and more like a fucking Third World country...

[NightWatcher]

9. Isn't he relatively new to the "liberal" talk radio scene?

I remember hearing something about him being a republican a few years ago.

Maybe he's just got some parts of the Old Eddie stuck in his new Converted Eddie body. I heard the first 5 minutes of his show and he was being brash about supporting KXL and hating on those who oppose it. Maybe he'll let them lay the pipe through his property in Fargo or close to where his drinking water comes from.

[otohara]

11. When He Gets Defensive

and starts with the name calling -- the enviros, and I'm gonna crap on you!

Click - buh bye defensive angry Ed.

[bullwinkle428]

14. Bingo - start questioning his progressive credentials, and he gets

really, really nasty.

[GoCubsGo]

32. That was my reaction when I heard "enviros" today.

Adios, Ed. You have had some good things to say in the past, but I ain't tolerating this kind of shit.

[SHRED]

15. a woman was just on ...

... and trying to explain that oil goes on to the international market. He was still loud mouthing how oil produced here somehow changes our dependence on foreign oil.

He is either wilfully ignorant or a purposeful liar.

[G_j]

16. his argument, although he does not put it in these terms,

we are being held hostage between the choice of a pipeline and unsafe rail transport.
An horrendous devil's bargain. He can't step out of the box and acknowledge that the oil companies are intent on screwing us one way or the other. Tar-sands are far too toxic to mine in the first place. He doesn't get it.

[okaawhatever]

26. My question is will killing the Keystone Pipeline stop the tar-sands from being mined? I keep

feeling like two issues are being conflated. Yes the tar-sands oil is evil, but will it continue to be mined if Keystone isn't approved? If you know please fill me in.

[G_j]

33. oh yes

it certainly will. That is why we are being held hostage, so to speak.

[SHRED]

19. Boehner and Schultz united for K-XL

[solarhydrocan]

20. How many times does former republican Shultz talk about

how successful Germany has been with their solar program?

These paid pimps can blab all day without even breathing a word about a real demonstrated solution.





Solarpark Neuhardenberg



Solarpark Finsterwald



Solarpark Kothen



Solarpark Lieberose



Solarpark Senftenberg

Solar power in Germany http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_Germany

Germany is the world's top photovoltaics (PV) installer, with a solar PV capacity of 35.082 gigawatts (GW) at the end of September 2013.[2] The German new solar PV installations increased by about 7.6 GW in 2012, and solar PV provided 18 TWh (billion kilowatt-hours) of electricity in 2011, about 3% of total electricity.[3] Some market analysts expect this could reach 25 percent by 2050.[4] Germany has a goal of producing 35% of electricity from renewable sources by 2020 and 100% by 2050.[5

Germany set a world record for solar power production with 24.0 GW produced at midday on July 21, 2013.[14][15] Approximately 1.3–1.4 million solar power systems helped to set this record

[G_j]

21. he just quoted the headline of this article, I believe

then he blows it off and says something like, there is lots of stuff out there, both the oil companies and the "enviros" put stuff out there...

This is published in the Smithsonian Ed...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024442047

[FoxNewsSucks]

22. Maybe the oil advertising $$$$ on NBC is behind this

I generally like Ed Schultz' show, and it's been really hard listening to this. It sometimes doesn't sound like he believes this new-found "safety issue" crap either, but it's what he's been told to say.

[procon]

23. Is it linked to his support of unions?

Ed Schultz is a vocal champion of union causes, and he's paid a handsome sum by those groups for his efforts on their behalf. Coupled with the number of big unions that are pushing for construction of the Keystone XL pipeline, it seems plausible that he would also support that project.

[nadinbrzezinski]

24. He is parroting

The administration. On this one this starts at the WH

[Whisp]

28. bull

plus shit.

I know you can't see this but others will.

The admin (by this I know you mean Evil Obama and his Orcs) is not pushing this. It is in fact, pissing off people like the Kochs and the Clintons for not approving it yet.

[luckykate54]

25. Yesterday I heard him on the radio

stating his favor of the pipeline I couldn't believe it. Then I watched him on TV and he said the same thing. I thought he was smarter than that. I may not watch him anymore.

[truebrit71]

27. Will not be listening to Ed Shultz anymore...

..Support for KXL is a deal-breaker for me...

"enviros"? Really Ed - How about you go fuck yourself...

[Whisp]

29. if Ed caves to threats or bribing on this

which he obviously has,
can you imagine the grief Obama has been getting on this since 2009, and he still has not caved?
So much for Caver in Chief, for those of Lesser spines and minds.

Koch Grief was unleashing the teaparty in 2010. And Bill Clinton's little childish tantrums against Obama could be explained by this as well.