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TheBlackAdder

(28,183 posts)
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 05:37 AM Feb 2014

Question: Can you tell when someone is using residential fuel oil in their diesel vehicle?



I grew up in a home that used fuel oil heat. My sister bought the home and replaced it with another fuel oil system a decade ago. There is a distinct odor to fuel oil which separates it from the low-sulfur diesel fuel sold for autos and trucks.

There are a group of trucks down by me that, when passing or standing by, smell like a residential heater, instead of a standard diesel vehicle or tractor trailer. The odor of these vehicles is quite pungent, leaving little doubt they are trying to evade a motor vehicle gas tax.


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In a pinch, some heating companies will say you can use automotive-grade diesel fuel in your home's heating system if you can't get your fuel oil delivered on time or don't want to pay for an emergency delivery.

Some cars, like an Audi, might know if you are using high-sulfur home oil as they also have a special additive to reduce emissions.

I'm not sure if simpler delivery trucks and tractor-trailers would work the same way.


Most fuels are colored differently to prevent accidental misuse while others produce different odors so you can tell them apart when they are being burned.


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Can you really tell the difference if you burn the two variants of oil in a truck or older diesel car?
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Question: Can you tell when someone is using residential fuel oil in their diesel vehicle? (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Feb 2014 OP
Sure, in any diesel vehicle older than 2007. n/t Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #1
Here in the UK they use different colours dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #2
The only difference is the color. longship Feb 2014 #3
Vehicular diesel fuel is low-sulfur. TheBlackAdder Feb 2014 #4
They also sell agricultural fuel for farm equipment and vehicles.... Demo_Chris Feb 2014 #5
The tax on gasoline and diesel fuels used TexasProgresive Feb 2014 #7
My Dad used to deliver fuel oil for Kerr-McGee. Archae Feb 2014 #6
Maybe if the Government hadn't forced Chrysler to abandon their turbine car solarhydrocan Feb 2014 #8

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
2. Here in the UK they use different colours
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 05:57 AM
Feb 2014

so's if it came to it the police / HM Customs could detect other than automotive diesel being used in a car or truck - considerably different tax/duty bands on differing fuel types. Never heard of a car getting a spin - trucks yes.

Odd notes here for example
http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071130014800AA1LRmQ

Had a friend with an old VW van who ran it at times using vegetable oil from Costcos. Used to get funny looks when stationary in traffic at bus stops whatever. Not nearly as funny as back in 1963 when we used to run neat RedX fuel additive through a tube into the carb while stationary - made the entire bus queue disappear in white smoke when we pulled away. Managed to make an entire filling station disappear on one occasion.

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. The only difference is the color.
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 06:01 AM
Feb 2014

Fuel oil is fuel oil, whether you call it diesel or heating oil.

I heat by fuel oil. It's the same shit that truckers pump into their tanks to drive cross country with WalMart goods. The difference is that diesel fuel is taxed (like gasoline) and heating fuel isn't.

But it's the same shit. But they color it so that one can tell the difference. I know. It's mind boggling.

TheBlackAdder

(28,183 posts)
4. Vehicular diesel fuel is low-sulfur.
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 06:10 AM
Feb 2014

It they are putting residential fuel oil in their trucks, they're skirting highway taxes and adding to the pollution.

Also, home heating oil is not held to the same purity standards, introducing impurities that could damage a vehicle. You could get stuck with junk oil or older oil.

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
5. They also sell agricultural fuel for farm equipment and vehicles....
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 06:13 AM
Feb 2014

Same diesel, but a different color or something. Apparently someone decided that big rig owners could afford monstrous taxes but farmers and ranchers could not. Taxes are the main reason diesel fuel is so expensive.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
7. The tax on gasoline and diesel fuels used
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 08:04 AM
Feb 2014

in cars and trucks is a road tax. Ag equipment rarely uses the roads and are therefore exempt. Boats are probably exempt as well.

Archae

(46,317 posts)
6. My Dad used to deliver fuel oil for Kerr-McGee.
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 06:48 AM
Feb 2014

And there was a running gag there, the lighter kerosene-type fuel oil was called "#1 fuel oil."

The more commonly used, heavier fuel oil was called "#2 fuel oil."

(You're seeing this one coming, right?)

The guys Dad worked with said it was called "#2 fuel oil" because it smelled like shit.

solarhydrocan

(551 posts)
8. Maybe if the Government hadn't forced Chrysler to abandon their turbine car
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 08:30 AM
Feb 2014

it wouldn't matter.

See, the Chrysler Turbine Car could run on unleaded gasoline, kerosene, JP-4 jet fuel, vegetable oil, peanut oil, French perfume, brandy and even tequila. Almost anything flammable.

And there was no radiator, no antifreeze, no carburetor, no pistons, no smog, and only one spark plug. And no oil changes. Ever.

But when the Feds bailed out Chrysler in 1980, a condition of the bailout was the termination of the program.



The US could be energy independent if DC wanted it so. But they do not.

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