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pscot

(21,024 posts)
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 11:12 PM Feb 2014

Moses Farrow defends Woody Allen

One of Woody Allen's adopted children, Moses Farrow, has explicitly offered his support to the embattled film-maker, saying in an interview with People magazine: "Of course Woody did not molest my sister."

Moses, 36, is one of two children Allen adopted with Mia Farrow – the other being Dylan, the subject of the child sex abuse allegations – and has now reacted to the letter Dylan published accusing Allen.

Speaking of Dylan and Allen, Farrow told People: "[Dylan] loved [Allen] and looked forward to seeing him when he would visit. She never hid from him until our mother succeeded in creating the atmosphere of fear and hate towards him." He says that on the day the abuse is alleged to have occurred there were several people present in the house the whole time and "no one, not my father or sister, was off in any private spaces". Dylan alleges the abuse took place in an attic.

He continued: "I don't know if my sister really believes she was molested or is trying to please her mother. Pleasing my mother was very powerful motivation because to be on her wrong side was horrible."

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/feb/05/woody-allen-dylan-farrow-moses

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Moses Farrow defends Woody Allen (Original Post) pscot Feb 2014 OP
Who knows what the truth is, but it is clear this entire family needs intense therapy Heather MC Feb 2014 #1
I do reddread Feb 2014 #3
Replace the story Texasgal Feb 2014 #2
are we supposed to give the catholic church the benefit of the doubt? frylock Feb 2014 #5
No. I guess you didn't understand. Texasgal Feb 2014 #7
I didnt and I apologize frylock Feb 2014 #8
Maybe it might have been better for all involved if they had handled their problems in private. sabrina 1 Feb 2014 #4
Yes, it definitely would have. Farrow says she didn't want to go to court because it would El_Johns Feb 2014 #6
it was allen that went to the press and used the media to threaten, unless he got his way. seabeyond Feb 2014 #9
Nov 1992. Written by the same friend of Mia's who wrote the recent VF article on the same topic. El_Johns Feb 2014 #10
you accused mia of going to the media. clearly it was allen that used that to hurt his family. seabeyond Feb 2014 #11
Not clear to me. You mentioned the 60 minutes interview, as showing the Allen started trying the El_Johns Feb 2014 #13
prosecution, i am not seeing mia making this decision, though as a parent, i am sure she was part. seabeyond Feb 2014 #12
If Mia & Maco wanted to try the case, they should have tried it in court, not in the media. El_Johns Feb 2014 #14
they explained why they did not try the case, and that is a norm. do not act like it is not. seabeyond Feb 2014 #15
Because it "might harm Dylan." Like the rest of the media circus, the multiple investigations and El_Johns Feb 2014 #16
there was a verdict when the judge said no custody, no visitation, no supervised visitation. courts seabeyond Feb 2014 #17
I hope you never serve on a jury. Or anything else. El_Johns Feb 2014 #18
i am kinda feeling the same that you never sit on a child molestation case. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #19
Ditto. What would be the point, when you've already made up your mind that every accusation El_Johns Feb 2014 #20
and that you have made up your mind that all are merely false claims, silly girls. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #21
More horseshit. I've never said any such thing or anything that could be construed to mean El_Johns Feb 2014 #22
lol. adn when did i say every accusation of molestation is true? you can play, and you cant. seabeyond Feb 2014 #23
You're not the one who said "I stand with the child every time"? El_Johns Feb 2014 #24
Trash bin is my friend... nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #25

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
4. Maybe it might have been better for all involved if they had handled their problems in private.
Wed Feb 5, 2014, 11:31 PM
Feb 2014

This seems to be a very dysfunctional family. And no one outside of it knows anything at all about them other than what they decide to tell the public and what they decide not to.

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
6. Yes, it definitely would have. Farrow says she didn't want to go to court because it would
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 06:28 AM
Feb 2014

have damaged her child, but she was very willing to try Allen in the media, both in 1992-93 and today, 20 years later. I wonder how much damage that has done and will do to everyone concerned.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
9. it was allen that went to the press and used the media to threaten, unless he got his way.
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 10:40 PM
Feb 2014

barbara walter special ring a bell?

Woody Allen took a different tack: He used a “frivolous” custody suit, expert witnesses, and a media blitz that reportedly intimidated his daughter and dissuaded Mia Farrow from pressing criminal charges. On August 5, 1992, Dylan told her mother of her molestation. Eight days later Allen filed his custody suit, hiring expert witnesses to discredit his young daughter. Allen’s side portrayed Dylan as a confused fabulist and former partner Farrow as a hysterical, vengeful ex—allegations that anonymous sources relayed to media to generate headlines like “Mia’s Daughter May Have a Reality Problem” despite a gag order.

Allen’s tactics didn’t win him custody or even visitation rights, but his scorched-earth strategy scarred Dylan and deterred Farrow from pressing criminal charges. The custody battle lasted nearly a year. A criminal trial could take even longer and would be yet harder on Dylan and her siblings, especially if their privacy couldn’t be guaranteed. No doubt prospects for a fair criminal trial seemed dim; the challenge of convincing a jury of Allen’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, insurmountable.

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2014/02/woody-allens-advantage-how-the-law-protects-celebs-accused-of-abuse/283595/


amazing how you can just flip facts on its ear.
 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
10. Nov 1992. Written by the same friend of Mia's who wrote the recent VF article on the same topic.
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 10:46 PM
Feb 2014

Each monthly issue comes out before the month it's labeled as. IOW, the Nov issue comes out at the end of October.

Allen's 60 minutes interview aired November 22, 1992.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2620744/

The item you linked from the Gainesville Sun is a blind item and reports one fact; that Farrow fired Dylan's psychologist. It may be that Allen was the leaker or it may not, but leaking one fact is rather different from what Mia & her friend do below:



There was an unwritten rule in Mia Farrow’s house that Woody Allen was never supposed to be left alone with their seven-year-old adopted daughter, Dylan. Over the last two years, sources close to Farrow say, he has been discussing alleged “inappropriate” fatherly behavior toward Dylan in sessions with Dr. Susan Coates, a child psychologist. In more than two dozen interviews conducted for this article, most of them with individuals who are on intimate terms with the Mia Farrow household, Allen was described over and over as being completely obsessed with the bright little blonde girl. He could not seem to keep his hands off her. He would monopolize her totally, to the exclusion of her brothers and sisters, and spend hours whispering to her.

She was fond of her daddy, but if she tried to go off and play, he would follow her from room to room, or he would sit and stare at her. During the school year, Allen would arrive early at Mia Farrow’s West Side Manhattan apartment, sit on Dylan’s bed and watch her wake up, and take her to school. At her birthday party last July, at Farrow’s country house in Bridgewater, Connecticut, he promised that he would keep away from the children’s table so that Dylan could enjoy her birthday party with her friends, but he seemed unable to do that. Allen, who was a fearful figure to many in the household, was so needy where Dylan was concerned that he hovered over her through the whole party, and when the cake arrived, he was right behind her, helping to blow out the candles...

http://www.vanityfair.com/magazine/archive/1992/11/farrow199211

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
11. you accused mia of going to the media. clearly it was allen that used that to hurt his family.
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 10:51 PM
Feb 2014

this post has NOTHING to do with what i replied to.

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
13. Not clear to me. You mentioned the 60 minutes interview, as showing the Allen started trying the
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 10:58 PM
Feb 2014

case through the media, and I've just shown that it aired at least one month AFTER MIA'S INTERVIEW IN VANITY FAIR.

The November issue comes out in October. Which means that Farrow was working on it in early October at the latest. That's a little under two months after the supposed molestation in August.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
12. prosecution, i am not seeing mia making this decision, though as a parent, i am sure she was part.
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 10:52 PM
Feb 2014
In an unusual move, criticized at the time, Maco went public with his belief that even though there was probable cause to charge Allen with a crime, he would not do so because of the traumatic effect that testifying in court could have on the young girl.

Despite the latest uproar, Maco, who spent more than 30 years as a prosecutor -- first as an assistant state's attorney in Bridgeport, then in the Office of the Chief State's Attorney, and later as state's attorney in Litchfield -- has not changed his opinion.

http://www.newstimes.com/policereports/article/Prosecutor-in-Woody-Allen-case-back-in-the-5201622.php
 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
14. If Mia & Maco wanted to try the case, they should have tried it in court, not in the media.
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:01 PM
Feb 2014

Maco's office, btw, commissioned the Yale-New Haven clinic.

The one whose report didn't find evidence of molestation.

And who started re-trying it in the media this time? Why, Mia and Ronan.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
15. they explained why they did not try the case, and that is a norm. do not act like it is not.
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:04 PM
Feb 2014

when you have a society, and example we are seeing on du, right here and now, that blames the victim or assumes she is lying, this is what happens. to put a 7 yr old thru that would be troubling to say the least.

the judge took care of it.

NO custody
NO visitations
NO supervised visitations.

that never happens unless there is a huge problem with lots of distrust.

the verdict came in without putting the child thru trauma and the VICTIM was taken care of.

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
16. Because it "might harm Dylan." Like the rest of the media circus, the multiple investigations and
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:13 PM
Feb 2014

exams, etc etc etc didn't. Like "sharing" Dylan's video as soon as it was made with "a reporter and two producers from a New York television station" didn't.

There WAS NO "verdict," BECAUSE THERE WAS NO TRIAL. The custody case was not a trial of whether Allen molested Dylan, even though your team keeps pretending it was.

Allen got visitation with Satchel/Ronan.

Moses was allowed to decide for himself.

Allen wasn't given visitation with Dylan since she was reacting badly to seeing him but the door was left open.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
17. there was a verdict when the judge said no custody, no visitation, no supervised visitation. courts
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:21 PM
Feb 2014

never deny the right of the father to visitation if there is nothing there. never.

the judge took care of it.

guilty.

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
20. Ditto. What would be the point, when you've already made up your mind that every accusation
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:26 PM
Feb 2014

of molestation is true?

And when you've already demonstrated you are willing to bend facts and evidence to push your own POV?

Like a parent is never denied visitation. Ever.

Horseshit.

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
22. More horseshit. I've never said any such thing or anything that could be construed to mean
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:33 PM
Feb 2014

that by a normal person.

I don't think WOODY ALLEN molested Dylan. That view is specific to THIS CASE.

I have noticed you & your friends' use of such accusations as a tactic of argumentation, however.

Like the one who implied I was a pedophile.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
23. lol. adn when did i say every accusation of molestation is true? you can play, and you cant.
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:44 PM
Feb 2014

it is fine for you to fling the horseshit but by gosh.... no one better fling it your way, right?

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