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Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 10:54 AM Feb 2014

Being a poor woman

I have written about my family's struggle with poverty a few times here at DU. Things are so bad that I am thisclose to resorting to internet panhandling.

People in my life know I am poor. One thing that strikes me is the difference in suggestions for me and my husband.

My husband is always told to keep his chin up, keep looking for better employment, keep hoping, work hard.

The suggestions for me? Strip. Have you thought about porn? What about a webcam show where you show some skin.

Never once has anyone suggested that my husband sell his body in a sexual manner. Not once. I get those suggestions twice a week or more. I have been told by "friends" that I don't want to see my children out if poverty and I'm selfish because I will not strip or do porn.

That's fucked up.

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Being a poor woman (Original Post) Tree-Hugger Feb 2014 OP
That is outrageous! LiberalEsto Feb 2014 #1
I did. They are gone Tree-Hugger Feb 2014 #3
Why would ann--- Feb 2014 #26
These are offline friends Tree-Hugger Feb 2014 #27
I agree. Thats FUBAR. Scuba Feb 2014 #2
Thank you nt Tree-Hugger Feb 2014 #4
I apologize to you on behalf of the people of the United States of America. raging moderate Feb 2014 #5
Thank you for that. :) nt Tree-Hugger Feb 2014 #9
Seems like you need a better class of associates... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #6
They're gone Tree-Hugger Feb 2014 #10
WTH. Triana Feb 2014 #7
Thank you :) nt Tree-Hugger Feb 2014 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2014 #8
You need different people in your life. PassingFair Feb 2014 #12
They are gone Tree-Hugger Feb 2014 #15
Your husband should tell those assholes to STFU HangOnKids Feb 2014 #13
He would Tree-Hugger Feb 2014 #14
Your OP makes it sound like these are FaceBook buddies HangOnKids Feb 2014 #16
Whete did I say that in my OP? Tree-Hugger Feb 2014 #17
Ack! What horrible, unthinking things to say! ladyVet Feb 2014 #18
I talked to a friend about this Tree-Hugger Feb 2014 #20
DU Rec Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #19
IMO Mr Dixon Feb 2014 #21
My husband works 3 slave wage jobs in retail Tree-Hugger Feb 2014 #22
So Sorry Mr Dixon Feb 2014 #23
No where else to move at the moment Tree-Hugger Feb 2014 #24
That's the best ideas they could come up with? Spirochete Feb 2014 #25
In their own way they are trying to help, I guess Tree-Hugger Feb 2014 #28
You are right. Those are dangerous things to do. raging moderate Feb 2014 #29
 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
1. That is outrageous!
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:01 AM
Feb 2014

I would drop these losers out of my life permanently.

May you receive blessings of abundance and prosperity.

 

ann---

(1,933 posts)
26. Why would
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 03:26 PM
Feb 2014

you post about such person things on Facebook. I am SO glad I don't go there any more. It's a stage for exhibitionists.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
27. These are offline friends
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 07:23 PM
Feb 2014

These are "offline" friends - though we communicated via Facebook often. I just meant I deleted them off my facebook, out of my life, etc.

I will say, though, that it's no secret that we struggle. I am not ashamed to admit I am poor. While I don't go into great detail on my Facebook, with exception of private messages, I also don't take great pains to hide my struggle with poverty.

I'm not an exhibitionist.

raging moderate

(4,292 posts)
5. I apologize to you on behalf of the people of the United States of America.
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:21 AM
Feb 2014

You deserve better. Much, much better.

Keep your chin up, keep looking for better employment, keep hoping, keep working hard, and don't believe the bad things some people are saying about you.

Thank you for your courage and your perseverance. Your children will thank you for it, and they will profit by your good example.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
10. They're gone
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 05:50 PM
Feb 2014

Sadly, being poor is isolating because a lot of people eventually show their true colors or abandon you because the stress of your life is too exhausting.

I don't have time for assholes, so assholes don't get to stay in my life.

 

Triana

(22,666 posts)
7. WTH.
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 12:42 PM
Feb 2014

That's ridiculous! I'm so sorry for your situation and I hope you don't let those ignorant idiots affect you too much - or feel that your choices are limited to....that.

Response to Tree-Hugger (Original post)

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
12. You need different people in your life.
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 05:51 PM
Feb 2014

Seriously.
If they make suggestions like that, they are not worth knowing.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
14. He would
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 06:34 PM
Feb 2014

These are friends of mine that I typically see when he is working....which is what he is always doing.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
16. Your OP makes it sound like these are FaceBook buddies
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 08:19 PM
Feb 2014

Now you say you see these people while he is working. You spend face time with these people...really? Regardless, Tree-Hugger would you really have people believe that these "friends" say these horrible things to you and you don't share that information with your man? You share it on a public message board but not with your husband?

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
17. Whete did I say that in my OP?
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 10:42 AM
Feb 2014

Please direct me to the part of my OP where I said these were "facebook buddies? " I mentioned in a comment that I did a sweep of my Facebook....which is typical when you no longer have a relationship with a person. I don't know about you, but I have many friends who I see offline that I also talk to on Facebook. It's the way Facebook works.

Also, where did I say I do not share information with my man? As I said, he does not see them socially and did not hear these particular comments "live," but in no way did I say I don't share this info with him. Perhaps you misunderstand my OP?

Exactly what is your problem?

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
18. Ack! What horrible, unthinking things to say!
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 11:55 AM
Feb 2014

But, it goes to show how women are perceived in our society -- we can always spread our legs for money, right?

Good for you for not suffering the fools.

I was born poor, and except for a couple of brief periods have lived poor. I'll most likely die poor. Sucks, but such is life.

I made some poor choices -- the worst one being not getting a better education -- and I've paid for them. I've tried not to let my children suffer because of my life, but there's only so much you can do. They have to make their own choices eventually, you can only hope they do better.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
20. I talked to a friend about this
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 12:42 PM
Feb 2014

She is an advocate for the homeless and for food insecure families. Anyway, she says quite a few women have shared similar stories. I, personally, do not have a problem with strippers. I don't think it makes you a bad person or anything like that. However, it's not the right choice for me and for several reasons. And there are some out there who think you're not doing enough if you won't consider it.

I hope your situation gets a lot better.

To speak to your regret about education - poverty is happening to those with great educations. I have a college degree and a professional license (expired because I couldn't afford renewal as well as the continuing education credits needed to maintain a license) and I'm still in this situation. It sucks all around.

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
21. IMO
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 12:44 PM
Feb 2014

That sucks; I hope things get better for you however the outlook is grim IMO. Unless you work 3 slave wage jobs in retail I just don’t see much else out there, the job creators have the upper hand and they are underpaying everyone. IMO stick to your guns.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
22. My husband works 3 slave wage jobs in retail
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 12:58 PM
Feb 2014

He is definitely underpaid for what he does. It's depressing when you think about it.

I keep voting for and encouraging people to vote for folks who will work to raise the damn minimum wage.

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
23. So Sorry
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 01:10 PM
Feb 2014

IMO that is not going to happen, the system is playing it's self out as we live and breath, they want us all working 3 jobs with no benefits, they want a renter society. The only way i see to combat the system is to ban together families and pool our resources. We need to abandon our go it on our own mentality and adapt a banned together thought process. Do you have family that you can move end with that could be a start even if it's in another state. As long as we are separated, the system will continue to eat us alive.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
24. No where else to move at the moment
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 01:17 PM
Feb 2014

Though I definitely believe in sticking together and working together.

Spirochete

(5,264 posts)
25. That's the best ideas they could come up with?
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 03:06 PM
Feb 2014

Strip? Do porn? Sheesh, you'd think they'd suggest buying and selling things on e-bay or something. They may be trying to help, but they sound like idiots. And you can bet if you took their suggestions, these same "friends" would be talking about how horrible you were behind your back. They're less than zero help.

I sure hope your situation improves soon somehow. On a fixed income myself, I know being poor is no fun.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
28. In their own way they are trying to help, I guess
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 07:56 PM
Feb 2014

It's not the first time someone suggested it. What ticked me off the most this time was that it was said that I was "sefish" for choosing not to do it - that I didn't want to get my kids of poverty. I just thought that was low.

raging moderate

(4,292 posts)
29. You are right. Those are dangerous things to do.
Sat Feb 8, 2014, 12:20 PM
Feb 2014

Perhaps some women manage to emerge from those activities unscathed, but many others find themselves, and their families, the focus of very unsavory attention indeed.

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