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Democrats in the U.S. House of Representatives introduced legislation to create a voluntary public financing system for House candidates Wednesday in an attempt to combat the influence of big-money politics.
Rep. John Sarbanes, D-Md., introduced the bill, titled the Government by the People Act. The legislation has more than 100 co-sponsors including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.The proposal will make the voices of everyday citizens as important as the big donors out there, Sarbanes said Wednesday at a press conference in Washington, D.C.
Under his plan, when politicians receive donations of $150 or less, that money would be matched at a 6-to-1 ratio. Individual contributors would also be eligible for a $25 tax credit.Sarbanes told the Center for Public Integrity the matching fund would be paid for closing tax loopholes affecting industries that have all this influence.
Doing so, he continued, would allow you to underwrite a system like this for 50 years.To qualify, candidates must agree to accept no more than $1,000 per donor and raise at least 50 percent of their donations from in-state contributors. (The plan would not match any portion of donations larger than $150.)
http://www.publicintegrity.org/2014/02/06/14216/dems-introduce-plan-public-financing-campaigns?utm_source=email&utm_campaign=watchdog&utm_medium=publici-email
Thank you for trying, Rep. Sarbanes!
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)If they wanted me to believe this is something they were truly going to fight for they should have been fighting for this from the beginning, not just at election time.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Democrats can be wonderfully progressive when they know their proposals can't go anywhere and oddly "centrist" when they could actually pad those progressive policies
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)politicians do business, I just can't trust it. Why didn't they bring this up sooner? Why wait until election time? Will this be just another broken election promise? I would love to see it happen, and I hope it does. But they better not be expecting my vote just because they bring a bill up at election time that they may or may not even intend on passing.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Walter Jones of NC. They might just be trying to look like they're doing something in an election year, but there is a movement afoot in Washington to tackle campaign finance reform. Mother Jones reported on a private meeting that was held a couple months ago including Pelosi and a bunch of other Dems.
Veilex
(1,555 posts)Its very easy to find something that the base would love to have pass, but will never see the light of day, and use it as a way to drum up support for election season... then they can use it again some other year when election season comes around again.
seveneyes
(4,631 posts)Why is it not being used now to feed and house the people that have been hurt by this recession?
Triana
(22,666 posts)And their website: http://ofby.us/
Scuba
(53,475 posts)... it seems like we need a Constitutional Amendment to stop the exquisitely wealthy from spending what they want.
While I support this bill, we should not lose focus on the need for an Amendment that addresses the SCOTUS-given right of a few wealthy men to outspend all the rest of us, even with a 6-fold boost.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)involved in ccfr now .
But what about the SuperPACs? Even if we had citizen-funded elections, wont SuperPACs continue to dominate the system? And wont the 1% simply turn to them to find a way to exert their influence? Theres no doubt that Citizens United unleashed a series of decisions by courts and the Federal Election Commission (FEC) that have created a new, and even more virulent instance of precisely the corruption Ive described. Before Citizens United, Members were dependent upon the Funders to fund their campaigns. After Citizens United, members of Congress are dependent upon the Funders to fund their SuperPACs too. Not technically their SuperPACs, of course, because the whole idea of SuperPACs is that they are independent of the candidates (and if you believe that, then ...). But whether they have their SuperPAC or not, candidates for Congress must now inspire the 1% to contribute to their campaign, and to these independent groups too.
The incentives here are truly invidious. As former Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) once described it to a television reporter, every incumbent
in D.C. is now terrified that 30 days before an election, some SuperPAC will drop $ 1 million in ads against him or her. That fear inspires a logical response: Incumbents seek to secure a kind of SuperPAC insurance a guarantee that if they are attacked, an equal but opposite response will be launched. But because the incumbents cant simply turn to their own largest contributors (by definition, these contributors have maxed out), the incumbents must secure that insurance by finding a SuperPAC on their side, which has a strong enough reason to intervene to support that incumbent. And all this security has to be in place long before there is an attack. So the incumbent needs to cement the loyalty of this potentially friendly SuperPAC, in just the way SuperPACs like by voting according to the views supported by the Funders of the SuperPAC.
This is the economics of a protection racket. Long before even a single dollar is spent, the very threat that dollars will be spent has changed the behavior of the government in power. And in this obvious dynamic, the dependence of Congress upon the Funders has been radically increased.
So of course I agree that Citizens United is a real problem. And it may well be that we need to amend the Constitution to deal with that real problem. But (1) even if we do, that doesnt change the strategy that we should be following right now. And (2) in any case, Im not yet convinced that we will in fact have to amend the Constitution to deal with Citizens United. (1) The need to amend the Constitution eventually doesnt change the strategy now, because the only way we will ever have the political support in Congress to defend an election system of integrity is if we have a Congress chosen through an election system of integrity. We need, in other words, to change the way Congresss elections are funded, if were to have any chance of achieving the supermajority support that wed need to change the way the Constitution has been interpreted. The first step to changing the Constitution is to change Congress. But more important, (2) its not even clear that we need to change the Constitution to deal with Citizens United.
First, citizen funding may be enough. As the nonprofit Dēmos puts it, If candidates for federal office were mostly raising money in small contributions from average citizens, and if outside spending groups were organizing these average citizens to give them a louder voice in the political process, the sheer volume of money raised and spent might not present such a troubling problem. Even with SuperPACs, this tactic may give members of Congress enough independence to do the right (according to their constituents view) thing. And that would mean we could ignore this ignoble decision, and get on with the project of doing government well.
Lessig, Lawrence (2013-04-03). Lesterland: The Corruption of Congress and How to End It (TED Books) (Kindle Locations 515-516). TED Conferences. Kindle Edition.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)The vouchers could be used any way the voter wanted - given to a single candidate, or divided among many. Pooled with other vouchers (think Unions) or tossed in the trash.
But that would be all the money that would be allowed for campaigning, period. For those who claim this would deny them their right to free speech (e.g., spending their own money) I would argue that they would have exactly the same amount of free speech as every other citizen.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Say, 6 weeks prior to the election. Before that, no political advertising of any kind for any political office. Ideally, a parliamentary system in which multiple parties present their platforms to the public in debates only.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Would you allow the publication of a book that criticized a presidential candidate two months prior to the election?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)And if you would not allow the movie, how do you justify allowing a book but not a movie? What if it was an ebook? An audiotape of an ebook? A downloadable podcast of the audiobook?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)As in, by political candidates and parties.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Because these are about independent expenditures.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)And, pumping the parties and candidates full of money isn't going to work.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Insofar as it relates to freedom of speech, the First Amendment to this Constitution shall not apply to speech that refers to candidates in Federal or State elections, within the six month period prior to such elections.
Personally, I prefer the ACLU approach of increased disclosure rather than limiting free speech.
deacon_sephiroth
(731 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)What's your proposal, and does your proposal achieve a similar outcome?
mdbl
(4,973 posts)They obviously don't care how much someone spends on a candidate, who spent it, or where the money came from. They only believe the BS they hear on Fux Nooze or Mush Lumpballs.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)That nails it. We need all the protection we can possibly get.
PotatoChip
(3,186 posts)Madam Mossfern
(2,340 posts)I support totally public financed campaigns. People would just check off a box on their taxes that would contribute a certain amount of money to be put into the kitty, and candidates get the equal amounts to spend on their campaigns. This takes away all special influence and we'll be able to see who makes the best use of their money.
I know it's pie in the sky, but the amount of money spent on political campaigns is obscene.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)during the run up to an election? Would the cost of publishing the book count as a campaign contribution to the opposing candidate?
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Madam Mossfern
(2,340 posts)in my mind somehow, money does not equal free speech.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)CallmeJoe
(10 posts)Too bad this Koch will fight this all the way.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)when it's voluntary.
Madam Mossfern
(2,340 posts)It has to be mandatory and policy.
As far as someone writing a book.....do we really have to worry about the right-wing reading?
Honestly, how many books can be published and read in any election cycle, and those most likely to purchase or read such books are already of the same mind as the author.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)vkkv
(3,384 posts)A true democracy needs an informed voter, a voter who also knows who is funding the person that they plan to vote for and who's funding the other side as well. It is plainly obvious that politicians need to grease the wheels that are going to get them election funding, and guess what; that is not you and me.
Unless the voters here in the U.S. demand PUBLICLY FINANCED ELECTIONS because you know what? We already are paying for the election of who the corporations want in office. The money is paid in the high costs of insurance, education, prisons, crime, pharmaceuticals, energy, food (prices could sky-rocket with thanks to Mansanto) and even war.
MAKE THE POLITICIANS ACCOUNTABLE TO YOU AND ME WITH PUBLICLY FINANCED ELECTIONS THAT HAVE SPENDING LIMITS.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Thanks for posting that. That just proves that this is nothing more than election rhetoric.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)It will be fun watching the Republicans and the bought off Dems twist themselves into pretzels!
bl968
(360 posts)Public financing should be mandatory with all other donations explicitly prohibited.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)The opponents of his plan? Not so much.