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I've only been able to catch a little of Ed schultz, but everytime, he's pushing Keystone.. (Original Post) themaguffin Feb 2014 OP
He has a different point of view from many, elleng Feb 2014 #1
Going back to his old days? ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #2
maybe. themaguffin Feb 2014 #3
He has an affinity for Brian Schweitzer? truebluegreen Feb 2014 #4
They call it "bi-partisanship" in Washington, DC! blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #5
He used to work in North Dakota. Maybe he has oil in his blood. progressoid Feb 2014 #6
I've noticed too. bravenak Feb 2014 #7
He was also a cheerleader for invading Libya. ForgoTheConsequence Feb 2014 #8
That's where he learned his bombastic bloviating method. delrem Feb 2014 #9
Th man has a right to his opinion calguy Feb 2014 #10
that's fine. none of us agree 100%, but my question came from his ramped up rhetoric... themaguffin Feb 2014 #12
Much of his research and/or justification for his position is weak Samantha Feb 2014 #11
How come no one on his show addresses the fact that the oil is going to be DebJ Feb 2014 #13

elleng

(130,641 posts)
1. He has a different point of view from many,
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:17 PM
Feb 2014

recognizes that many disagree with him, and is airing the issue.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,867 posts)
8. He was also a cheerleader for invading Libya.
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:36 PM
Feb 2014

And supports the war on drugs.

He started out as a republican talk radio host, it's no coincidence.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
9. That's where he learned his bombastic bloviating method.
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:43 PM
Feb 2014

What I especially dislike about Ed is how he appends a totally nonsensical claim to be a "progressive" to his right-wing prescriptions, as if just making that claim is enough validation.

calguy

(5,281 posts)
10. Th man has a right to his opinion
Thu Feb 6, 2014, 11:45 PM
Feb 2014

You have yours, he has his. I don't always agree with 100% of his conclusions, I bet he wouldn't agree with 100% of mine. It's called free thought. I'm personally against the pipeline but in my opinion Ed makes some credible arguments supporting his position

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
11. Much of his research and/or justification for his position is weak
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 12:03 AM
Feb 2014

He says whether we like it or not, oil is here to stay for some time. He does support solar and wind, but we are not in a position to depend on those 100 percent, so we have to accept that we need the oil. His main point is that the oil is being transported by rail, and that is totally not safe. A pipeline, he says, to transport the oil is much safer.

I thought this dirty crude oil was all Canadian oil, but he pointed out one spot where U.S. oil will be absorbed by Keystone. So what? That is supposed to offset the deleterious environmental impact?

There was a second alternative mentioned earlier in this discussion where the Canadian oil could be shipped if Keystone was not approved. My opinion: go with that alternative.

Two flaws in his discussions of late I think were in being thrown for a loop by one commentator who mentioned the flaw in the integrity of the State Department finding. So evidently, his staff looked into that, and a response was presented this evening. The State Department said a second analysis had been commissioned by a totally independent party, as opposed to a party with interests. Somehow, I found the State Department's response flat, but that might just be me. I simply did not believe it.

The other misguided point by Ed was the creation of jobs. We have previously reviewed findings from totally disinterested but responsible parties about the actual number of jobs that will be created. As I recall, the number quoted by those promoting Keystone counted a job that lasted not just one year but two as two separate jobs. After the initial work, there will be few permanent jobs because as we all know it doesn't take many people to monitor the flow of the oil through a pipeline.

In my opinion, this is all about the one hundred million dollars the Koch Brothers will realize should Keystone be approved, and that is it precisely. But hey, what do I know....

Sam

DebJ

(7,699 posts)
13. How come no one on his show addresses the fact that the oil is going to be
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 12:54 AM
Feb 2014

shipped out of the continent via the Gulf? This is no help for US energy.
I actually saw a video of the head of the oil company saying so quite some time ago.

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