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sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 12:28 AM Feb 2014

You be the Judge



Obama nominates second gay black judge to federal bench



After his first attempt to nominate an out African-American judge to the federal bench was blocked by Sen. Marco Rubio, President Barack Obama announced Wednesday his intent to try again. According to a release from the White House, Obama will nominate Darrin Gayles to the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida.

Gayles, who has served as a circuit court judge for Florida’s 11th Judicial Circuit since 2011 and previously served as a county judge for the same circuit from 2004 to 2011, was endorsed by the Gay & Lesbian Victory Fund for his bid for re-election in 2012. If confirmed, Gayles, much like Thomas before him, would become the first out black man in the nation’s history to serve on the federal bench.

http://theobamadiary.com/
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You be the Judge (Original Post) sheshe2 Feb 2014 OP
So...let me get this right: minorities and gays and women are never corporatists? Just white dudes? loudsue Feb 2014 #1
What am I missing? William769 Feb 2014 #4
Here ya go loudsue Feb 2014 #6
I still don't get it. William769 Feb 2014 #8
Well what good does it do to get minorities in better positions if they just represent corporate cui bono Feb 2014 #15
No one has shown me where this man has corporate interests. William769 Feb 2014 #17
Because Obama appointed him! Duh! Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #22
Which man? cui bono Feb 2014 #30
Darrin Gayles. NT William769 Feb 2014 #34
I have not had a chance to look into their backgrounds cui... sheshe2 Feb 2014 #19
You are not now and never will be the low man on the totem pole! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #16
Thats one of the reasons I love you so much! William769 Feb 2014 #18
Panti Bliss, thank you William. sheshe2 Feb 2014 #20
And~ sheshe2 Feb 2014 #21
I don't know all there backgrounds yet... sheshe2 Feb 2014 #7
But their blanket identities are on the checklist, so yay? Scootaloo Feb 2014 #28
Totally off topic JackInGreen Feb 2014 #31
I have the perfect sig for you! Scootaloo Feb 2014 #32
K&R! ty she. Whisp Feb 2014 #2
You are welcome Whisp! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #3
Thanks. William769 Feb 2014 #5
Sad to say that they both seem to be running sheshe2 Feb 2014 #9
Right back atcha! William769 Feb 2014 #11
Aaaah~ sheshe2 Feb 2014 #12
Great Graphics of who President Obama is Cha Feb 2014 #10
Amazing is it not Cha! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #13
Exactly! Cha Feb 2014 #14
Obama appointed the man who is trying to bring marriage equality to Utah! Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #23
Who is that, DI? Cha Feb 2014 #24
Robert Shelby. He ruled Utah's ban on gay marriage was unconstitutional. Drunken Irishman Feb 2014 #26
Yay President Obama and Judge Robert Shelby.. Thanks DI! Cha Feb 2014 #27
Race, gender and sexual preference are not the only important factors in appointing judges. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #25
As always, she... longship Feb 2014 #29
Elizabeth Warren: We Need to Stop Packing the Courts With Corporate Judges Scuba Feb 2014 #33

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
1. So...let me get this right: minorities and gays and women are never corporatists? Just white dudes?
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 12:31 AM
Feb 2014

So Senator Warren is wrong? What am I missing?

William769

(55,145 posts)
8. I still don't get it.
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 12:46 AM
Feb 2014

He's been in public life since 1993 and given his age...

So I ask again where does that figure into the equation with Senator Warren?

Is this going to be like pulling teeth where I have to try to pry the information out of you?

One thing I am looking at is I have been low man on the totem pole for far to long and yes that has figured into my equation.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
15. Well what good does it do to get minorities in better positions if they just represent corporate
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 01:06 AM
Feb 2014

interests?

I'm a woman and I don't want Hilary as our president just to have a female president since she's way too corporate.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
19. I have not had a chance to look into their backgrounds cui...
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 01:15 AM
Feb 2014

Have you? It's late for me and I have to work tomorrow. Will check more later.

Yet for Darrin Gayles

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrin_P._Gayles

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
16. You are not now and never will be the low man on the totem pole!
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 01:09 AM
Feb 2014

I am so sorry that you have ever been treated or made to feel that way, William.

It breaks my heart.

William769

(55,145 posts)
18. Thats one of the reasons I love you so much!
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 01:14 AM
Feb 2014

In a friendly way of course.


P.S. Watch this to get a sense of where I'm coming from.


sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
20. Panti Bliss, thank you William.
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 01:46 AM
Feb 2014

That was poignant.

I met my first gay couple when I was about five. My parents introduced me. The owner of a restaurant and one of his waiters. They were always invited to our cottage in Truro . Sure I was young at the time, what the hell did I know? Yet it was acceptance, my parents knew. It made no difference, not then or now. Guess what that was a million years ago William. I am 61 years old. Accceptance by some then...yet we have to fight the battles all over again.

My dad was born in Provincetown. I spent a good portion of my summers there. I know. I really do.

You William are such a sweetheart.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
28. But their blanket identities are on the checklist, so yay?
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 03:17 AM
Feb 2014

Tokenism is not progressivism, Sheshe.

Well, okay, maybe it IS. Let me rephrase.

Tokenism is not liberalism, Sheshe.

Like you, I don't claim to know these nominees. Fair enough, we're both in the dark. But you seem to have it in your head that their racial, gender, or sexual identities are "good enough." Who needs to know anything more, apparently?

That one has a lot of melanin, that one doesn't have a dick, that one is living with someone who's the same sex, so OF COURSE their opinions, positions, and achievements don't actually matter - you're not after results, you're just trying to fill cast slots on a Saturday night sitcom.

But yaaaaay.

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
31. Totally off topic
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 03:42 AM
Feb 2014

but do you know how badly I've wanted to make a DiamondTiara handle JUST to troll you with?
All in good fun and sport, but jeeez, make a brony want to be bad.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
9. Sad to say that they both seem to be running
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 12:50 AM
Feb 2014

neck to neck.

The women folk, poor lost souls that they are. They can't seem to see the forest for the trees unless the old shriveled menz of the GOP tell what to do. Sigh, sad that we lost our collective minds and that we must wait for their sage advice.

Love ya William!

Cha

(297,154 posts)
10. Great Graphics of who President Obama is
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 12:51 AM
Feb 2014

nominating for judges, she.. thank you! I have a feeling they all are wise and good at what they do.

More on Judge Darrin Gayles from your link..

"Gayles served as an assistant district counsel at the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service from 1997 to 1998 and as an assistant state attorney in the Miami-Dade State Attorney’s Office from 1993 to 1997. He is a graduate of George Washington University Law School and Howard University.

According to Victory Fund press secretary Steven Thai, Gayles is a "qualified jurist who will also add diversity to the federal bench" and, if confirmed, "will reflect the talent and commitment that exists in communities that are underrepresented in public service."

http://www.metroweekly.com/poliglot/2014/02/obama-nominates-second-gay-black-judge-to-federal.html

http://theobamadiary.com/2014/02/06/rise-and-shine-738/

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
13. Amazing is it not Cha!
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 01:01 AM
Feb 2014

African American, Latino, Openly Gay, Native American, Asian American and Women!

Creating a judicial pool for that resembles the Nation it serves!

Thanks for the link!



 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
26. Robert Shelby. He ruled Utah's ban on gay marriage was unconstitutional.
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 03:03 AM
Feb 2014

It's currently in the appeals process.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
25. Race, gender and sexual preference are not the only important factors in appointing judges.
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 03:00 AM
Feb 2014

Elizabeth Warren is a lawyer and understands the importance of having a lawyers that represent different legal experiences on the bench. It is important to have some criminal defense attorneys as well as some former prosecutors, some lawyers who have defended corporations as well as some who have represented plaintiffs in lawsuits. In law it is not just a matter of having racial, gender, etc. diversity. You need to have diversity in terms of the legal experience of the lawyers appointed to the judiciary. That is how you get fairness for all who appear and are tried or bring claims tot he court. (Think Clarence Thomas.)

In fact, a judge of one race who has primarily represented the interests of people of another race in his practice as a lawyer may bring great balance and fairness to his judgments of people of all races. A lawyer's job is to represent his client, not to indulge in his own prejudices. Judges with a more balanced experience during their years practicing law will, hopefully, be more balanced in their approach to the cases that are tried before them.

In truth, a lot of judges are appointed for political reasons, because they belong to the right crowd or the right political party and not because they are really suited for the judiciary. And that is detrimental to all of us.

Has Obama appointed any ACLU lawyers? How many lawyers who have worked for public interest firms has he appointed? I do not know. Does anyone?

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
33. Elizabeth Warren: We Need to Stop Packing the Courts With Corporate Judges
Fri Feb 7, 2014, 09:31 AM
Feb 2014
http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2014/02/elizabeth-warren-judicial-nominations-brennan-center

Of Obama's judicial nominations so far, just ten—fewer than four percent—have worked as lawyers at public interest organizations, according to a report released Thursday by the Alliance for Justice, a network of civil rights organizations. Only 10 nominees have had experience representing workers in labor disputes. Eighty-five percent have been either corporate attorneys or prosecutors.



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