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First, I want to express my gratitude to all you great folks for your kind, generous, compassionate, and often delightfully funny outpourings on my post of yesterday morning, as well as for the various PM's I got from loving and concerned DUers.. Here's the link to that thread.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024458859
The day was filled with being carted around & I didn't have much time or energy to be online at all or to make the appropriate responses inside that thread, so I got to read through the entire thing in these early morning hours after being awoken at 3 and 4:30 am for my vitals to be taken, and knowing that it would be useless to try to get back to sleep because I could be woken again at any moment for another blood draw.
Anyway, since I got to read about 24 hours worth of the whole thread, I was struck by how great everyone on this board is. I should have known, of course--and on a sort of theoretical level I did know, but it really came home to me as I read through all those wonderful posts. Democrats/liberals/progressives/democratic socialists are good people. All those traits I mentioned in the opening line come naturally to them. It's a tribe that I take great pride in belonging to.
And now the update. I may be getting discharged today. My hospitalist physician said that according to his reading, the stress test did not indicate the need to do an angiogram, plasty or bypass. There is significant heart damage from at least two previous (and euphemistically named) "events," but coronary blockage does not seem to be playing a role in the ongoing situation. The hospitalist did add the caveat that he is speaking as a generalist, and was unwilling to fully commit to his interpretation of the results until they are reviewed by a cardiologist, which is supposed to happen sometime today.
On another front, though, my dear wife, who has cancelled her counseling client sessions to be with me as much as possible, developed an oral/jaw pain that forced her to go to the dentist yesterday. She got a root canal, and then came to the hospital to be with me.
As the Novocain from the dental procedure wore off, she became very painfully aware that there was still a huge amount of pain. Tongue and finger explorations have convinced her that the tooth that received the root canal is no longer a source of pain, but that the culprit is an adjacent tooth. She will be trying to get in to the dentist today for another root canal.
Folks, it doesn't rain but that it pours. Now I'm lying here thinking of what must have been a horrible night for her, and wondering if she was able to contact the dentist. Our dentist is the kind of guy who will come in on a weekend to treat a patient in acute pain, so her best bet is to try him before coming in to the emergency room here in order to get an appointment with the on-call dentist. I know that she has some Tylenol 3, enough to help her somewhat through the night, but Migod this is being a rough year.
panader0
(25,816 posts)your wife's dental problems will be fixed. You dodged a bullet by getting treatment when you did, and will be on the mend.
Things will get better from here. All the best.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)particularly by the humans in my world
-- by having the loving support of my wife, -- by having so many great people come forward from my local circle of friends -- by the outpourings of sentiment, prayers, wishes, etc. from the people in this online community, -- by having great care from a remarkable hospital staff (not a lemon in the bunch), and on and on.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)But the only positive thing is that from here it is all downhill
sendero
(28,552 posts)... that you may get to go home and hope your wife's dental issues are short-lived!
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)Everyone deserves at least the level of medical care you received.
Just a plug for Single-Payer.
I hope the rest of your Year turns out better. Just reading about your puppies stressed me out.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I recognize how fortunate I have been to have a good but expensive supplemental insurance plan in addition to Medicare. How could anyone wish less for any of our fellow-humans? Your sentiment is exactly the sort of thing I was referring to in my opening comment on the generous nature and compassion that are such distinguishing characteristics of the members of this tribe of ours. The tribe without narrow tribalism, so to speak.
spanone
(135,789 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)TBF
(32,003 posts)the dogs, your heart issues, and your wife's dental issues.
That's 3 so you're good now. Rest up and follow whatever the cardio tells you to do!
brer cat
(24,523 posts)You and Mrs. are having an awful time. I hope for better, healthier times very soon.
Sharing your sorrow for your fur babies.
TexasProgresive
(12,155 posts)Despite your grief at the loss of your sweet companions, Gus and Honey and the health troubles of your wife and self I hear a tone of strength. My thoughts are with you and your wife.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)Mrs. JPR's toothfers' problems will be positively resolved.
Be well! As I posted mins. ago, there are more loving cold, wet noses in your future.
BTW, you've lightened my load by sharing yours.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Demeter
(85,373 posts)Tell her to get a bite guard....I had the same issues.
Granted, if a tooth has been filled, it's likely to go after 40+ years, but grinding speeds the process.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)I so relate to your advice. Got a bite guard and my troubles stopped.
Julie
Greybnk48
(10,162 posts)I read your post yesterday and felt sick and could not think of anything to write that didn't sound trite. I'm going to ignore that and just say I'm so, so sorry about your dogs. What a loss, but I guess it would be fair to say that Honey wouldn't have been good without Gus, which blunts the loss a tiny bit. I read your story to my husband, primarily because we had an 85 lb. Golden years ago named Honey. Then we got to the part about you. He sends his concern as well.
I am very happy to hear your news today and I sincerely hope the cardiologist concurs with the hospitalist. Stress from a loss can do awful things to us and your heart was already compromised a bit. I hope your blood pressure is back to planet Earth norms, that will help! I also feel for your poor wife, big time. Not to minimize your woes in any way, but she's lost two beloved dogs (like you), AND her husband's seriously ill! I can't imagine dealing with both at the same time, not to mention having severe toothaches, among the worst pain out there!! You both need a respite of some sort.
Both of you please be well soon! You've had enough already. We need good DUers like you J.R. and good fellow Wisconsinites like you both to fight off the Walker Mafia! Take care. Colleen
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Throughout this whole health thing, I've been actually much more concerned with my wife's emotions than with my own. I was shot, nearly fatally, in Vietnam in 1967 when I was 23, and at some level came to terms with my own mortality. I have done Tibetan forms of Buddhist meditation for years now, and I view each day as a gift. I enjoy life on this planet and am in no hurry to leave it, but am on the other hand not terribly afraid of death for myself. My greatest concern over this whole thing comes from the prospect of leaving her alone, especially so soon after our loss of the dogs.
Greybnk48
(10,162 posts)and take really good care of yourself. You're needed.
I know what you mean about coming to terms with mortality. I've had cancer (7 years ago) and it changed me and how I feel about death too. I know what you mean about worrying more about who you'll leave behind and if they'll be ok. You're a good man/husband JR.
Colleen
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)I am so, so sorry for your very recent losses. I have an 18 month old Labrador retriever, and I can't imagine our life without him.
I'm never unamazed by the love between spouses, even through suffering. You and she are lucky to have one another.
I'm so glad you're on the mend and will be discharged soon.
I don't know how I missed your thread yesterday, but I hate that I did. And I completely agree with how it rains and pours. It felt like the first four weeks of 2014 were like that for me. One thing after another. And expensive, too.
Good luck!
HelenWheels
(2,284 posts)I also missed your post from yesterday. I think this has been a rough year for a lot of us but yours sounds worse than most. Hope things get better for you and stay that way.
elfin
(6,262 posts)"It could be worse. It could be worse. It could be worse."
Yes, it could be, AND it could be happening a few months from now, ruining a long-awaited relief from Winter. This way, you will both be mended in time to enjoy the season.
PS - Please do NOT do any snow shoveling with your compromised ticker.
We really care and really don't want any more bad crap coming your way.
loudsue
(14,087 posts)I'm keeping you and the Mrs. in my heart and mind.
The Wizard
(12,534 posts)I've found oxycodone to be most effective. I used it for a week before seeing a dentist, and it pulled me through.
It dulled the pain of a serious infection that had gotten into the skull.
colorado_ufo
(5,730 posts)We are all cheering for you both!
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Spring will arrive, and there's fishing to be done, and butterfies and birds to watch, and cats to be played with.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Overseas
(12,121 posts)I am glad to hear you may be discharged soon and that you have a good dentist to help your wife.
Thank you for your posts over the years.
Sending best wishes for a smooth recovery for you and your dear wife.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)(((Hugs))) to both you and Mrs. Backline...
Hang in there
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Ir ran, it poured buckets...we are hoping it is very well over.
RKP5637
(67,086 posts)you, get well soon!
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)I am so very sorry for everything you and your family are going through. I wish you continued healing, peace and comfort.
prairierose
(2,145 posts)feeling better and that your wife's dentist can solve her problems so that she feels better soon too.
Take care of yourselves and I hope your year gets better.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)You'd better get yourself healthy again, dammit! Please DO take care of yourself!
My great sympathy to your dear wife - I heartily hope her tooth problems are speedily remedied.
And my heartfelt condolences for the loss of your two canine companions. I know they must be sorely missed.
Such a blasted hard winter this has been up here in the north country for all of us, and I am so sorry to hear about all the additional suffering you and Mrs. Jackpine are having to endure.
Sending love and light to you both, and my wishes for brighter times ahead.
sw
kaiserhog
(167 posts)Your dogs were two of the luckiest on the planet. You can rest assured of that. God Bless You.
P.S. Wish your wife a speedy recovery from her root canal.
Ellipsis
(9,124 posts)Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)but my husband and I are also having a bit of a mensi horribilis ourselves. Having said that, I have to echo what you said about DUers. Almost exactly a year ago when I announced that my husband had FINALLY found a job (as I was to do the same a month later) after having been out of work for 3-1/2 years, I got SO MANY well wishes and HEARTS! Boy, did I get HEARTS! I just sat there and blubbered at the huge outpouring of generosity and good wishes. Let it carry you through these challenging times.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)Nothing compared to what JR is going through, though.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)What a crazy thing to have happen.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)I hope you and your family get through this mess and have a much better time of it than you have lately! I'm so sorry to hear all of this, my friend!
KoKo
(84,711 posts)if I'd known would have wished you both well in the posts that I missed.
Blatedely to you...
Lots of us can use these hugs these days. Jackpine's post is a reflection of the bizarre circumstances many of us are dealing with.
I'm glad better days are ahead for you. It goes up and down...
Sustainability.....is the goal. 's
villager
(26,001 posts)Hopefully, you have turned the corner on your 2014 early on.
Here's to recovery and recuperation -- and finally being able to offer a good home to new dogs!
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Healing vibes incoming! [url=http://www.freesmileys.org/emoticons.php][img][/img][/url]
indepat
(20,899 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)Kiss your wife, and say I love you. That's the best thing you can do!
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I don't think we've let a day go by without at least once saying "I love you." It' just something we've always done.
In my mind, it's one of the most important and useful things you can do, letting your loved ones know how much you care.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Some ideas are more active than others.
http://www.21cmagazine.com/Jack-Sarfatti-Weird-Science
Don't will it so, just know it will be so.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)At risk of triggering the Rabid Reductionists, I will say that I've always had an interest in this kind of stuff. As far as Will versus Know, that's an idea I tangentially explored many years ago when I was writing a book that examined the ways in which the Germanic peoples used the Runic alphabet in magic and divination.
One of the rules I think the ancients followed was to always state the desired effect as an accomplished fact.
For example, a guy who set out to carve a bone comb might first carve a line of runes that read "Thorfastr made a good comb" as a spell to avoid his breaking off any teeth or whatever while fashioning it. Modern academic runologists read this as some sort of boast, but I read it as an incantation.
Don't will it; don't plead for it. Know it.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...he found himself transformed in his bed into a gigantic insect.
First there is an insect. Then there is no insect. Then there is.
http://bloodmilk.tumblr.com/post/51211652068/franz-kafka-interviewing-gregor-samsa-and-friend
Back at ya, Jackpine Radical! From the way we read it, that story, also, is about cosmic consciousness.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Don't leave your roaches lying around.
AllyCat
(16,140 posts)So sorry you lost your dogs.
proud patriot
(100,704 posts)dembotoz
(16,785 posts)missed yesterday post as well
hang in there
funny thing about teeth
about 30 years ago i was married to a lovely woman with leukemia
with leukemia they had to do a number of spinal taps because of her lung problem-long story, they couldn't snow her much
so i would sit there and clench my teeth while she screamed.
there were times i could hear them cracking.
my teeth are just shit today
so take care of your wifes.....
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)of your two beloved dogs, then worrying about your health only to add the pain she herself had to endure.
I don't think enough attention is given to grief as a real source of stress that can result in health issues. Pets are so much a part of people's lives that when they leave it truly is a great loss.
But it seems you have had three in a row and hopefully are on the way to complete recovery. And maybe some new, lost puppies who badly need as loving a home as you gave to the two you lost.
Take care both of you
countryjake
(8,554 posts)When I first read your original thread, I wanted to mention how bad I felt for your wife, losing her beloved woofies AND worrying over you, but felt giving you props for healing yourself was more important. Now that you're going home, hold her tight, talk together about the wondrous times you shared with Gus and Honey. Nothing is better at reducing stress than digging up good memories, bringing a smile back to your face. Love and Peace.
I hope that your days will get better now and here's another great big hug, for both you and your wife!
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Another
Look at the folks here on DU from different points of views ..looking out for you and your wife!
The Power of the COMMONS of POWER! The "MEME THINK"..or those who Think Together/Drink Together and Break Bread Together (or get along ONLINE TOGETHER) have..a Common Soulness...an essence of being together somewhere, somehow in the times they live in. Particularly when they are DREADFUL TIMES! 's
hue
(4,949 posts)Love to both of You!!!
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)On the mend! Only place to go is up!
I was in the clinic yesterday when I read your post, and same spouse with cataract surgery yesterday had a tooth yanked a couple of weeks ago (could have gone with the root canal, but the dentist said it might have to be done again later-sorry to break that to your wife!)
Anyway, did they talk to you about aspirin therapy? I take a whole one a day, my doc said "the stroke guys" like a whole one, the "heart guys" say 1/2.
I look forward to seeing you here again. We need all the good Wisconsinites we can get!
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)DirkGently
(12,151 posts)your wife's dental situation gets resolved soon. My folks just went through a weird cluster of those -- synchronized tooth pain after a vacation resulting in one root canal each -- then Dad needed another one a month later.
2014 has GOT to get better from here.
Be well.
- DG
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)May you enjoy good health for all your days from here on out.
Hekate
(90,551 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)But what lousy news about your wife. I hope her pain is relieved by the time I write this.
All the best from everyone on DU. Get well soon.
barbtries
(28,769 posts)don't let it get you down!