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Omaha Steve

(99,569 posts)
Sat Feb 8, 2014, 10:27 PM Feb 2014

Republicans and Democrats Push Senate Bill To Further The Destruction Of The USPS


http://nhlabornews.com/2014/02/republicans-and-democrats-push-senate-bill-to-further-the-destruction-of-the-usps/

By Matt Murray | February 8, 2014



Senator Coburn and Senator Carper
Image from HSGAC.GOV

Previously we reported on the fierce opposition to Senate Bill 1486 (postal reform) that was at the time, being introduced into the US Senate. This week the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee voted 9-1 to approve S1486 with provisions that will destroy good jobs, and close post offices.

“This disastrous bill would severely damage service to the people; weaken the USPS and make it ripe for privatization, and destroy good jobs throughout the country,” said APWU President Mark Dimondstein. “The APWU urges senators to vote against the bill if and when it is brought to the Senate floor for consideration.”

“Unnecessary and damaging attacks on the Postal Service’s vital networks and its employees—such as those unfortunately included in S. 1486—would only send the USPS on a downward trajectory,” said NALC President Fredric Rolando.

(The NALC also submitted this letter to the Senate spelling out the opposition to this bill.)



I am not surprised that my Senator, Kelly Ayotte (R-NH) voted for the bill, because like many others in the Republican Party, they want to privatize the USPS. HSGAC Votes on S1486 I am shocked at how some the Democratic Senators on the committee voted. Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND), Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI), Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO), and Sen. Mark Pryor (D-AR) all voted to move this legislation out of committee.

FULL story at link.

About Matt Murray
Matt Murray is the creator and an author on the NH Labor News. He is a union member and advocate for labor and progressive politics. He also works with other unions and members to help spread our message. Follow him on Twitter @NHLabor_News

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Republicans and Democrats Push Senate Bill To Further The Destruction Of The USPS (Original Post) Omaha Steve Feb 2014 OP
Carl Levin voted for this??? pangaia Feb 2014 #1
Helping out the 1% to privatize and loot the system warrant46 Feb 2014 #25
Democrats and Republicans supported the last round of destruction madville Feb 2014 #2
USPS is no longer needed. gerogie2 Feb 2014 #3
Glad you like to pay through the nose.... Historic NY Feb 2014 #4
Don't worry gerogie2 Feb 2014 #7
Ask UPS or Fed Ex what it'll cost to deliver an envelope to an address in another state. Scuba Feb 2014 #13
Yes, by charging more money and reducing service. lob1 Feb 2014 #28
But at more expense... which is precisely the reason the government is obligated to provide... LanternWaste Feb 2014 #29
Yep. And I refuse to Skidmore Feb 2014 #15
Dumbest reply today! Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #6
+1 warrant46 Feb 2014 #26
This message brought to you by hay rick Feb 2014 #11
I want it, and I don't give a fuck if it's needed or not. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #14
There is no company that will deliver mail as cheaply or to as many places as the USPS Merlot Feb 2014 #17
All those services can be replaced by private sector gerogie2 Feb 2014 #18
Absolutely not Samantha Feb 2014 #19
Letter delivery has been replaced by the Internet gerogie2 Feb 2014 #20
I stil have people in rural areas that mail me cards and letters thru the USPO Samantha Feb 2014 #21
And last mile delivery is done by the USPS for those private companies nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #34
All services the gov't provides can be replaced by PS - at a cost Merlot Feb 2014 #24
I am glad you like to pay though the nose nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #33
But, but, but WOODY ALLEN!!! Egalitarian Thug Feb 2014 #5
That is the purpose of the bullshit blizzard. TheKentuckian Feb 2014 #8
This just happened in the UK solarhydrocan Feb 2014 #9
Democrats are complicit in the privatization of our public institutions. liberal_at_heart Feb 2014 #10
So any guesses as to which specific companies will profit from this? lostnfound Feb 2014 #12
Kick Omaha Steve Feb 2014 #16
This sucks, a lot. n/t Jefferson23 Feb 2014 #22
Shameful. I don't understand how Democrats think this is going bullwinkle428 Feb 2014 #23
thats the rub RedstDem Feb 2014 #31
How is this bad for consumers? badtoworse Feb 2014 #27
severely damage service to the people; weaken the USPS and make it ripe for privatization, and destr LanternWaste Feb 2014 #30
it will cost more RedstDem Feb 2014 #32
Just sent an email to Dianne Feinstein nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #35

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
25. Helping out the 1% to privatize and loot the system
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:20 PM
Feb 2014

It won't be long until this happens

UNION BUSTING !!

madville

(7,408 posts)
2. Democrats and Republicans supported the last round of destruction
Sat Feb 8, 2014, 10:40 PM
Feb 2014

Democrats and Republicans both supported the last round of destruction in 2005, Democrats like Ted Kennedy in the Senate and Waxman in the House were co-sponsors back then.

 

gerogie2

(450 posts)
3. USPS is no longer needed.
Sat Feb 8, 2014, 11:06 PM
Feb 2014

We can all send correspondence over the Internet and pay bills online. Private companies can take over all package delivery in CONUS. The State of Alaska and Hawaii would have to set up their own system of delivery.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
4. Glad you like to pay through the nose....
Sat Feb 8, 2014, 11:27 PM
Feb 2014

apparently your not aware that the USPS delivers places the other paid companies don't. In Fact they deliver for them. Not everyone has the internet or even the service for it.

The post office didn't let down its customers at Christmas but the big private companies di.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
13. Ask UPS or Fed Ex what it'll cost to deliver an envelope to an address in another state.
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 09:22 AM
Feb 2014

I'll stick with the USPS, thanks very much.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
29. But at more expense... which is precisely the reason the government is obligated to provide...
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:42 PM
Feb 2014

But at more expense... which is precisely the reason the government is obligated to provide these services. Unless of course, you think the military should be privatized...

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
17. There is no company that will deliver mail as cheaply or to as many places as the USPS
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 10:01 PM
Feb 2014

And no, we don't all correspond over the internet and pay bills online. Go to a post office any time of day and you'll see a lot of people mailing packages and taking care of other business like passports.

People use the USPS because they know they won't pay through the nose for the services offered. Private companies have proven themselves to work for their own best interest and PROFIT. Once they have a monopoly on delivery they'll be just like the cable/internet/phone companies, holding us hostage to plans we don't want, with surcharges and penalty fees galore. And executive paychecks that would keep a small country solvent.

 

gerogie2

(450 posts)
18. All those services can be replaced by private sector
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 01:47 AM
Feb 2014

The Internet has eliminated the need to send correspondence physically. It is time to phase out the post office and let the private sector take over package delivery.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
19. Absolutely not
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:35 AM
Feb 2014

The U.S. Government allowing so many aspects of the work it performs to be privatized is a concept which in itself should be opposed at every turn.

Sam

 

gerogie2

(450 posts)
20. Letter delivery has been replaced by the Internet
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:44 AM
Feb 2014

Delivering correspondence physically is no longer needed thanks to the Internet. The private sector can handle package deliver because the buyer pays the cost of shipping. 90% of all package deliver done by the USPS is done by private companies between cities.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
21. I stil have people in rural areas that mail me cards and letters thru the USPO
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 02:14 PM
Feb 2014

But that is not the point for me. I am done watching private businesses carve out chunks of services performed by the U.S. Government for performance (and monetary gain) by them. So I am not going to support the privatization of anything, especially Social Security and the Post Office.

Sam

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
34. And last mile delivery is done by the USPS for those private companies
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 05:02 PM
Feb 2014

by the way, the USPS is in the Constitution.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
24. All services the gov't provides can be replaced by PS - at a cost
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:17 PM
Feb 2014

and that cost will be huge to the citizens - excuse me - consumers of America.

Business run for profit, and that profit is then given to CEOs and shareholders. It's not reinvested in the company or it's employees. It's not invested in infrastructure.

So, you got a pothole in the street? Call a private company to come fill it and pay the bill. House on fire - hope you've paid your fire company dues. Someone breaking in to your house? Hope you can afford private security guards, or you're SOL. Friend or relative in prison - they'll be dialing for dollars to all their family for basics like food and toilet paper on phone lines that cost 3 or 4 times the normal rate.

Oil company wants to put an oil rig on your front lawn - good luck fighting that! and when that oil pipeline bursts, good luck getting the company that caused it to clean it up without someone regulating it.

BTW, if people depend on the internet for ALL their postal needs, what happens when the internet starts jacking up prices and charging per email?

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
33. I am glad you like to pay though the nose
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 05:01 PM
Feb 2014

and some people STILL pay for bill using the USPS.

By the way, even at one dollar, it would still be a bargain.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
5. But, but, but WOODY ALLEN!!!
Sat Feb 8, 2014, 11:38 PM
Feb 2014

PUTIN IS A BAD MANN!!!
POPE GLORIANA!!!
REPUBLICANS ARE BAAAAD!!!
CHRISTIE!!!
CATZ LIKE BRGRZ!!!
THERE'S GUNZ!!!!

OK, sorry. this is just one of the real things going on that few are even aware of because of the blizzard of bullshit. I can't trash them faster that they can be posted.
& R

I'm going to do something else now.

solarhydrocan

(551 posts)
9. This just happened in the UK
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 01:10 AM
Feb 2014

privatization of the Royal Mail

Key players: Goldman Sachs and UBS

Royal Mail privatised for up to £1.5bn less than City estimates of its value
Sean Farrell theguardian.com, Friday 7 February 2014


Estimates of value ranged from £4bn to £4.8bn ahead of government selloff for £3.3bn, business department reveals

...The investment banks that advised on the sale, Goldman Sachs and UBS, told MPs on the business select committee in October that the flotation took place when financial markets were jittery and with the threat of a nationwide strike looming over Royal Mail.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/feb/07/royal-mail-privatised-city-estimates-value

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024458923


Goldman Sachs and UBS are "Too big to fail" Will they be "advising" the US on the sale of the USPS? Maybe Dianne Finesteins husband knows

Claim: The husband of Senator Dianne Feinstein chairs a company that brokers sales of USPS facilities.

TRUE http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/blum.asp



liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
10. Democrats are complicit in the privatization of our public institutions.
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 01:21 AM
Feb 2014

And every single democrat who does deserves to be primaried.

lostnfound

(16,169 posts)
12. So any guesses as to which specific companies will profit from this?
Sun Feb 9, 2014, 01:35 AM
Feb 2014

Fedex and UPS obviously, but what about the infrastructure? Will it be sold off to the most politically-connected at a dime on the dollar?

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
23. Shameful. I don't understand how Democrats think this is going
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 02:23 PM
Feb 2014

to generate more votes for Democratic candidates this fall.

 

RedstDem

(1,239 posts)
31. thats the rub
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:58 PM
Feb 2014

no matter who you vote for, you get the same thing.

Hilliary 2016 rah rah rah!!!

just venting, this is the worst.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
30. severely damage service to the people; weaken the USPS and make it ripe for privatization, and destr
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:45 PM
Feb 2014

“This disastrous bill would severely damage service to the people; weaken the USPS and make it ripe for privatization, and destroy good jobs throughout the country,” said APWU President Mark Dimondstein...





It's in the story posted in the OP for those with a sincere curiosity rather than pushing a small l libertarian agenda...

 

RedstDem

(1,239 posts)
32. it will cost more
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:59 PM
Feb 2014

in a nut shell.

plus the price of labor drops again, making your buying power drop with it.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
35. Just sent an email to Dianne Feinstein
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 05:11 PM
Feb 2014

I know, I know that was funny, She will put family interests before the people, but... I also contacted boxer.

They will do this in the end. It will only stop when the American people have had it. I do not expect that to happen in my lifetime any more.

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