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William769

(55,144 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:21 PM Feb 2014

WATCH: Teen Suspended for Defending Bullied Gay Classmate ****UPDATE****

Last edited Mon Feb 10, 2014, 09:12 PM - Edit history (1)

A Florida high schooler was suspended for 10 days after a lunchroom fight in which he reportedly stepped in to defend a gay student from a bully.

Mark Betterson, a senior at East Lee County High School in Lehigh Acres, Fla., told WFTX TV that he got involved in the fray after James Griffin, 18, threw milk in a gay student's face, called him a gay slur, and began beating him.

The victim, 18-year-old Jonathan Colon, suffered bruises to the head, but Betterson believes his intervention prevented more serious injuries to Colon. According to the report, Griffin began attacking Betterson after he jumped in to defend Colon.

"It’s not fair for somebody to get beat up for something that he is," Betterson told WFTX. "I’m not going to sit there and watch someone get bullied if I used to get bullied too."

http://www.advocate.com/youth/2014/02/10/watch-teen-suspended-defending-bullied-gay-classmate

I live in this County and if I ever get the chance to run into Mark Betterson I would like to buy him lunch & ask him how I can help him with his education of higher learning after graduation.

To you Mark Betterson.

UPDATE: Suspension has been thrown out for Mark Betterson and the bully arrested.
http://www.nbc-2.com/story/24684359/defending-student-not-expelled-for-fight-at-east-lee-county-high#.Uvl3PmeYY5s

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WATCH: Teen Suspended for Defending Bullied Gay Classmate ****UPDATE**** (Original Post) William769 Feb 2014 OP
Good for him! cyberswede Feb 2014 #1
All violence is bad and it can never be justified... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #2
Even if you just take the beating, and don't defend yourself, you can still be punished... Humanist_Activist Feb 2014 #4
... William769 Feb 2014 #6
Having been bullied by kids all throughout middle and high schools, I'm particularly... Humanist_Activist Feb 2014 #15
So we should sit on our hands... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #16
Don't confuse current policy with my belief... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #22
I read this... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #24
Discovering that is what we've taken from kids... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #28
+1 rtassi Feb 2014 #50
Good for him! Vinnie From Indy Feb 2014 #3
Good. I'd be proud if he was my kid LittleBlue Feb 2014 #5
Agreed. William769 Feb 2014 #7
Cool! My parents used to live in Lehigh Acres. Proud of that student. Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #8
Kick! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #9
Good Person Gothmog Feb 2014 #10
A kid with honor. proudretiredvet Feb 2014 #11
Wow, Betterson is a hero, they should have a school holiday in his honor. Bluenorthwest Feb 2014 #12
Ship this straight to Ellen DeGeneres... ReRe Feb 2014 #13
Cheers to you Mark Betterson! MysticHuman Feb 2014 #14
K&R... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #17
Violence begets violence. Orsino Feb 2014 #18
Fuck the school...a hero stepped up and did the right thing. Rex Feb 2014 #19
Let no good deed go unpunished. lpbk2713 Feb 2014 #20
Hope Griffin got suspended too treestar Feb 2014 #21
According to the update the bully was arrested for battery. groundloop Feb 2014 #53
Good news treestar Feb 2014 #56
Zero thinking policy strikes again sarisataka Feb 2014 #23
He got in a fight at school. He got suspended. Them's the rules. Iggo Feb 2014 #25
Some would say he got suspended for attempting to break up a fight... ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #30
He could have blocked with his face I suppose... Lost_Count Feb 2014 #32
It looks like that is what happened. He tried to break up the attack (I won't even really call it a ScreamingMeemie Feb 2014 #33
My sister got suspended for hitting the guy who was harassing her in the face, once. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #45
K&R! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2014 #26
Good for Mark Betterson! Cha Feb 2014 #27
Proud of Mark Betterson - TBF Feb 2014 #29
Can Stand Your Ground Be Used Against Bullies Wolf Frankula Feb 2014 #31
Kicking for update. William769 Feb 2014 #34
K & R for bully getting arrested. Hear that Chris Christie???? nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #35
Awesome warrior1 Feb 2014 #36
The aptly named Warren DeMontague Feb 2014 #37
in 5th grade my kid took on the school bully on the playground dembotoz Feb 2014 #38
Now that is an AWESOME update!!! Behind the Aegis Feb 2014 #39
Suspension thrown out for Mark Betterson and the bully has been arrested! countryjake Feb 2014 #40
K&R Sissyk Feb 2014 #41
Thanks for the update. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #42
Mark Betterson is a hero. LeftyMom Feb 2014 #43
Good kid! Spirochete Feb 2014 #44
Congrats to the young Mr. Betterson, with thanks. flvegan Feb 2014 #46
Recommended. (nt) NYC_SKP Feb 2014 #47
Good to hear that update Pretzel_Warrior Feb 2014 #48
Huzzuh! sakabatou Feb 2014 #49
Zero Tolerance should be renamed; SamKnause Feb 2014 #51
I love that update! NealK Feb 2014 #52
Battery charges for the bigot. crim son Feb 2014 #54
Warms my heart. myrna minx Feb 2014 #55
Way to go, Mark! They_Live Feb 2014 #57
Betterson ProgressiveJarhead Feb 2014 #58
Here is the thing. Schools will continue to hide behind zero policies nadinbrzezinski Feb 2014 #59
 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
2. All violence is bad and it can never be justified...
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:27 PM
Feb 2014

Welcome to the new standard of behavior in our schools that creates an entire generation of victims...

It's better to take the beating it seems... or watch someone else take it...

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
4. Even if you just take the beating, and don't defend yourself, you can still be punished...
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:35 PM
Feb 2014

for "instigating" the fight. Zero tolerance is just bullshit.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
15. Having been bullied by kids all throughout middle and high schools, I'm particularly...
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 06:01 PM
Feb 2014

sensitive about it, it really does destroy your self esteem.

It took me a long time to come to terms with it, and I would like schools to be able deal with this in a more reasonable and rational way.

 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
22. Don't confuse current policy with my belief...
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 06:45 PM
Feb 2014

If my son came home and said "Dad, I saw this kid getting the stuffing knocked out of him. It wasn't for fun. It wasn't a fair fight and I thought he was really going to hurt him. I jumped in the fight to keep him from getting really hurt. I think they are going to suspend me"

Well, I'd buy that boy a puppy to spend his week at home with and that principal and that council meeting would get an earful. I don't think it would make a whit of difference but they'd get it and in front of my boy as well.

Young men need to know what right looks like and defending the weak is one of those things and my son will know that I have his back 100% when he makes the right and ethical choice.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
24. I read this...
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 07:36 PM
Feb 2014

and re-read our other post. I think I just misunderstood you. You are absolutely right. My grandson got in trouble because he defended an overweight kid who was receiving a rough time. I made sure he knew I was proud of him. Luckily he didn't have to do much- he is a big kid so the others backed off with just a good shove. Bullies usually back down to people who stand up to them.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
5. Good. I'd be proud if he was my kid
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:35 PM
Feb 2014

In fact, I'd reward him.

Fuck the schools who stand by and do little or nothing. They're as bad as the bullies.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
8. Cool! My parents used to live in Lehigh Acres. Proud of that student.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:39 PM
Feb 2014

Lee County is so conservative that it is even more of a credit to him that he was brave enough to step in.

 

proudretiredvet

(312 posts)
11. A kid with honor.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:53 PM
Feb 2014

Please know how proud I am of you. It is great to see someone do the right thing for someone else. This is my America.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
12. Wow, Betterson is a hero, they should have a school holiday in his honor.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 04:04 PM
Feb 2014

How can we send DU hearts to him?

MysticHuman

(219 posts)
14. Cheers to you Mark Betterson!
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 05:33 PM
Feb 2014

Thank you for taking a stand. Shame on the school for not supporting your actions.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
18. Violence begets violence.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 06:31 PM
Feb 2014

I could admire a minimal application of violence that heads off something worse, but the details of just what was done to whom and when are lacking. A willingness to put oneself in danger to protect another is pretty cool.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
19. Fuck the school...a hero stepped up and did the right thing.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 06:34 PM
Feb 2014

SO fucking easy to stand in the crowd and watch some helpless person get beat down by assholes. So hard to step up and do the right thing!

HERO.

Iggo

(47,546 posts)
25. He got in a fight at school. He got suspended. Them's the rules.
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 07:38 PM
Feb 2014

That said, totally worth it.

Enjoy your vacation, Mark.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
30. Some would say he got suspended for attempting to break up a fight...
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 08:09 PM
Feb 2014

...and I am guessing this school has something blather about "zero-tolerance" and "no place for hate" on it's webpage.

From the news:

" According to the report, Griffin began attacking Betterson after he jumped in to defend Colon."

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
33. It looks like that is what happened. He tried to break up the attack (I won't even really call it a
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 08:38 PM
Feb 2014

fight because it appears one-sided) and the aggressor turned on him. To me, he was suspended for getting attacked.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
45. My sister got suspended for hitting the guy who was harassing her in the face, once.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 12:58 AM
Feb 2014

Dad picked her up and took her out for ice cream.

An ambulance picked him up and took him to the ER and then to surgery.

She had a really great week off of school.

TBF

(32,033 posts)
29. Proud of Mark Betterson -
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 08:07 PM
Feb 2014

my son is only six but he's a good kid and he's also big. He's got one kid in his class who is a trouble-maker and he actually asked me if he could punch him back if he started anything. This was in reference to a kid who acts out so much that at least 2 families I know of have gotten their daughters moved out of the class by threatening legal action against the school. I told my son he should never start anything but he can finish it if he has to. We are not putting up with that nonsense.

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
31. Can Stand Your Ground Be Used Against Bullies
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 08:24 PM
Feb 2014

in states that have SYG laws?

Of course the law will say NO, minors aren't people.

Wolf

dembotoz

(16,797 posts)
38. in 5th grade my kid took on the school bully on the playground
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 10:05 PM
Feb 2014

he defended a classmate.
I heard about it from other parents on my kids hockey team

they were very proud of him

i still am

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
40. Suspension thrown out for Mark Betterson and the bully has been arrested!
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 11:43 PM
Feb 2014

Fantastic news!

A principled young man, brave beyond his years.

flvegan

(64,407 posts)
46. Congrats to the young Mr. Betterson, with thanks.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 01:16 AM
Feb 2014

Cheers to you and your parents, sir.

So, Griffin is 18. Charged as an adult for HATE CRIMES, anyone?

If/when convicted, fuck you little shit.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
59. Here is the thing. Schools will continue to hide behind zero policies
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:01 PM
Feb 2014

what the kid needs to do... is not quite defend his friend. It is document, document, document. And both families should then sue the school system in the courts. This will not stop until this is taken out of the schools and fought back in the only place where administrators and school officials will get it, the court system.

Bullies will continue to hide behind stupid rules until they are exposed to the wider public, or sued over. That is the only fight back school districts understand.

And I am glad this had a happy ending, but that is so rare, it probably had to do with the court of public opinion.

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