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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSomething most people don't understand about the NFL draft
The NFL goes through every aspect of a players life. They talk to summer job employers, ex girlfriends, old neighbors, anyone and everyone they can find from your life. They care about 3 things: Anything that can be a distraction from football for them or you, anything psychologically wrong with you, and any way that you can be forced to do something by a criminal element.
They find something on most everyone. For any strike against you, your talent must be enough to overcome it. It is much like a slave auction. The next best doesn't have to be better than you to take your spot in the draft if they have less strikes against them.
The current football related discussion here is focused on the distraction issue. To give you an example of how small a thing can be and lower your draft position I had a friend who was drafted in the 6th round, he played in the league for 7 years. After a few years a new assistant GM told him that the team he was with at the time had almost drafted him in the 3ed round but chose to pass because of his arrest record. His arrest record consisted of one drunk and disorderly charge that was dropped. He got into a bar fight when he was 19 was arrested and then let go. But that was enough for him to drop three rounds and lose a ton of money.
I'm not making any judgments or statements about the current potential draftee, the league or the teams, just sharing a little information.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)We have laws that protect gay people from employment discrimination, but not people who get into bar fights.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)What they are saying is that the NFL draft hyperscrutinzes every single aspect of your life. I'm a gay man and a football fan, but even I understand there is a great deal of entrenched good ole boy homophobia in the NFL. I just hope the young man is mentally strong enough and physically gifted enough to rise above it.
dsc
(52,160 posts)You may have such a law but I don't.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I thought winning was number one with them and therefore, say, a DUI wouldn't mean anything to them if the player was better than others without that.
hack89
(39,171 posts)due to immature or criminal behavior. Drug use is an issue because of the potential to losing the player due to suspensions. DUIs or histories of off the field violence are red flags because of the uncertainty that the players can change their behavior (young, rich, entitled and immature can be a bad combination). Aaron Hernandez is the perfect example - lots of red flags in his college days that were overlooked because of his talent.
treestar
(82,383 posts)but being gay - that doesn't raise a red flag about anything.
hack89
(39,171 posts)I personally don't think it should be an issue but apparently some teams are more tolerant than others.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Like many say, it is probably so they've been showering with gays all their lives.
I hated gym showers, but never recalled worrying about lesbians. It's like, so what? Unless someone is directly propositioned in the shower, which likely never happens.
Among adults, I don't see the problem. Kids might be another matter.
hack89
(39,171 posts)I would suspect with the enormous pressure to win and the corresponding high turnover for losing coaches, NFL coaches and general managers are conservative and risk adverse. Because this guy is not a sure fire NFL superstar, it will be easy to justify (at least in their minds) picking someone else before him.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Would trump all other considerations, including the homophobe concern about other guys in the locker room.
Are_grits_groceries
(17,111 posts)However, they will ignore almost anything if you can play.
There are people on their rosters who have committed and been found guilty of many crimes.
If Aaron Hernandez was not locked up, I wonder if he wouldn't have played for somebody if they could have gotten him on their roster.
Nothing is a distraction if they don't want it to be. If Tebow had had a great NFL start, the Broncos would have moved heaven and earth to set up a less distracting media horde. Same with the Jets.
So they should get major pushback on their 'distraction' meme and the 'he can't play' meme that they are screaming about 24/7.
The owners are for the most part white, conservative, 1% bigoted jackasses.
If everybody keeps 'understanding' the NFL and other leagues, they won't ever change.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)NFL players wind up involved in. Was the Dog killing orgy group a distraction to Vick? Or did the NFL not notice that when going through all aspects of his life?
"These are arrests and citations involving NFL players since 2000 that were more serious than speeding tickets. U-T San Diego reviewed hundreds of news reports and public records in compiling it. The list cannot be considered comprehensive in part because some incidents may not have been reported and some public records proved to be elusive. Increased media coverage of incidents also probably accounts for more incidents listed in recent years.
http://www.utsandiego.com/nfl/arrests-database/
Admittedly, that list is so long as to be cumbersome, so here's the 2013 Greatest NFL Arrest hits.......
http://www.ajc.com/gallery/sports/football/nfl-players-arrested-2013/g75d/#3130911
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)the OP has to say about that. Is jail time not a 'distraction'?
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Judging from the number of arrests of football players, they either don't do what you claim or they suck at it.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Don't you think that's somewhat of a trivialization of the true horror of auctioning slaves?
TBF
(32,053 posts)high bar with his gang tats ... so I'm guessing any rejection of Sam is going to be 100% bigotry.
Apologizing for them isn't going to help. We "understand" just fine.
CBGLuthier
(12,723 posts)to all the "bad boy" types that the NFL is rife with.
When a gay player kills his lover, as one or two NFL players have done, they can compare them but until then such comparisons are bigoted bullshit and should be condemned as such and never tolerated.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)TheMathieu
(456 posts)not for LGBT players to ignore what they are and cannot change.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)And I didn't find any insight
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)Talent is the location, location, location of the athlete industry.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)No, some teams do not comb through every aspects of a player's life, and the player is protected and can also report any probing that he feels is over the line. It is NOT as you say with every team or every player.