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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBREAKING: Rand Paul, along with crazy Larry Klayman, will sue Obama administration over NSA
Ken Cuccinelli will serve as lead counsel for the lawsuit!
Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., announced in a Tuesday afternoon press release from his political action committee RAND PAC that hes following through with a promised class-action lawsuit against the National Security Agency.
Paul will file the lawsuit alleging violations of Americans' Fourth Amendment rights in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., Wednesday morning.
Its unclear if Pauls lawsuit will target the NSAs dragnet collection of phone records, its powerful Internet programs, or both.
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Its possible the Paul lawsuit will be heard in tandem with the most successful lawsuit challenging the NSA to date, a suit filed by conservative legal activist Larry Klayman. Klayman won a preliminary injunction against the phone program Dec. 16 from U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon, who deemed the data collection an almost Orwellian violation of the Fourth Amendment. Leon stayed implementation of his ruling pending appeal.
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/02/11/rand-paul-will-file-nsa-class-action-lawsuit-wednesday-in-dc?s_cid=rss:rand-paul-will-file-nsa-class-action-lawsuit-wednesday-in-dc
Most of you know Rand Paul. Here's some information for the folks who don't know Larry Klayman...
Larry Klayman, the lawyer behind NSA lawsuit, said Jews are behind gay marriage
Klayman: Jews Behind Gay Marriage, IRS Scandal
Larry Klayman is very upset that Jewish-Americans arent standing up to oppose the Muslim-in-Chief, and are instead at the forefront of a number of scandals. He said Jews are behind the promotion of anti-family institutions like gay marriage and working as President Obamas leftist Jewish government comrades and partners in crime. After calling Obama a Muslim through and through, Klayman goes on to write that the IRS scandal was perpetrated by felonious liberal Jews who should be in prison:
Read more: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/klayman-jews-behind-gay-marriage-irs-scandal
Flashback:
The conservative attorney and birther who called for a coup against President Barack Obama earlier this month has scheduled what he's describing as a "day of reckoning."
Larry Klayman wrote Monday in Renew America that he's established Nov. 19 as the date that Obama will be forced to answer for his "criminality" and "Muslim, socialist, anti-Semitic, anti-Christian, anti-white, pro-illegal immigrant, pro-radical gay and lesbian agenda."
Klayman said he hopes his supporters will "descend on Washington, D.C., en masse, and demand that leave town and resign from office if he does not want to face prison time."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/conservative-attorney-larry-klayman-sets-date-for-coup-against-obama
LOL: Klayman, the lawyer behind the NSA lawsuit, wants to sue CNN after his appearance on Tuesday
He calls a CNN host (Don Lemon) "a well-known ultra-leftist African-American political activist who pursues a LGBT sexual agenda.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024199972
Lawyer Behind NSA Lawsuit Once Sued His Own Mother, Believes Obama Is Kenyan Socialist Muslim
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024186148
Scuba
(53,475 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)If you're against the NSA's project Spy On Everyone, then you're in favor of all the same things that Rand Paul,and Larry Klayman are in favor of.
Got it?
Regards,
Third-Way Manny
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Nice try though, Third-Way...
Pholus
(4,062 posts)Please and thank you!
Marr
(20,317 posts)Your compatriots didn't miss the point.
cali
(114,904 posts)people with, over and over and over again.
Jaw droppingly disingenuous.
Amazing.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)If you defend of NSA spying, then your in favor of all the same things they stood for.
dawnie51
(959 posts)except for the moonbat baggers, I think Rand just disqualified himself for 2016 with everyone else.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Rand Paul, Ken Cuccinelli and Larry Klayman together in the same room...
What a picture!!
FSogol
(45,473 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)JRLeft
(7,010 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)He knows what he is doing, or thinks he does.
I don't doubt that he will botch it though, the lawsuit.
MFrohike
(1,980 posts)W was more of a constitutional scholar than the chia pet will ever be. He won't get past the standing issue, but plenty of idiots will be outraged when his bullshit case gets tossed because Mr. Dumbass doesn't understand law at all.*
*He could also be the most cynical politician in America as well. He could get a lot of mileage out of a guaranteed loss because too many people in this country don't bother to understand how their own judiciary works.
FSogol
(45,473 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
TheMathieu
(456 posts)And spare us the "Hitler loved dogs" bullshit.
That will not successfully deflect your treason to the left.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Union Scribe
(7,099 posts)I've read enough of the liberal-baiting party warrior crap you've spewed since showing up to be able to say that unequivocally.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)I don't consider you my ally either.
And don't even get me started on your categorical rejection of basic logic and reasoning.
madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)blue neen
(12,319 posts)You'd think that Mr. Paul and Mr. Cucinelli wouldn't want to spend the taxpayers' money.
Hypocrites.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)anti partisan
(429 posts)Then it's good that someone's there, even if its Larry "nuke Iran" Klayman.
The sad reality is that the most energy toward protecting civil liberties and privacy is coming from the Right now. We all know the reason too. That was the one good thing about Bush being President. Liberals acted like liberals.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)the 'right thing.' They'll fuck it up so bad that it will make the job for actual plaintiffs much harder, and thus, while Rand Paul gets to grandstand, his keeps his donors happy.
Do you really think this is competent legal filing?
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)make this country's legal system a bigger farce than it already is. I guess Larry suing CNN wasn't enough, huh?
Well, good luck Rand Paul and Larry Klans--I mean Klayman, in your attempt to sue the President over something that has already been proven to be legal. You'll need it.
anti partisan
(429 posts)FSogol
(45,473 posts)anti partisan
(429 posts)Different courts have come up with different rulings about the constitutionality of the program. To say one subjective interpretation has been "proven" correct is nothing short of a lie.
FSogol
(45,473 posts)anti partisan
(429 posts)(link)
Even if the Supreme Court does lean one way, it's still a matter of opinion, rather than an exact science.
If we are going to use the Supreme Court as a reason to hold our noses and vote Democrat, then we are tacitly admitting that the Supreme Court is a collective of people with political ideologies that often conflict and lead to different opinions. Considering who has been nominating the Justices, I wouldn't trust them to make what I feel is the right opinion any more than I'd trust Bush and Obama.
Fox News's primetime lineup could theoretically make up the Supreme Court, but would their authority legitimize their rulings?
FSogol
(45,473 posts)anti partisan
(429 posts)FSogol
(45,473 posts)Good luck with Civics class.
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)anti partisan
(429 posts)underthematrix
(5,811 posts)so does this mean domestic terrorist Rand Paul is suing himself?
Whisp
(24,096 posts)It's a candy factory here lately.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Rand Paul is in a position to actually, you know, use his position as a senator to DO something but in today's congress showmanship is easier than real action...
I know Rand has quite a few vocal fans here...Where have they been lately??
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Sign onto Rand Paul's petition,...after you give him a bunch of personal information AND contribute to his PAC.
haele
(12,646 posts)Get some red meat out there. Doesn't matter that he's not including the previous administration and heads who developed the system, and that suits to call it unconstitutional failed before they started back then (remember the secret NSA closet at that San Fransisco telecom site and the worker who outed the program back in the Bush administration?). So long as they can use NSA wiretaps as a cause celebe to whip up the base against this administration just in time for the November election cycle, it's worth it.
Besides, I think Rand thinks he's got another chance for the Big White House if he sues the President and the NSA now. He can run on the appearance that he's some sort of great saviour of the Constitution - see, look what he (supposedly) had the courage to do! Just like Orly Taitz! (Anyone can call a press conference and file a suit - whether or not it will get heard is another thing)
As for the lawyer Klaymen - he's just the same self-aggrandizing douche he always was.
Haele