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CK_John

(10,005 posts)
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:20 AM Feb 2014

The fate of the Senate in the midterm elections will determine who

the candidate will be in 2016.

If the GOP takes control, I doubt anyone except those looking for exposure will even run.

somebody vs "moderate Mitt" contest in 2016.

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The fate of the Senate in the midterm elections will determine who (Original Post) CK_John Feb 2014 OP
Genuinely curious here. Laelth Feb 2014 #1
It's my opinion, let Google be your friend. CK_John Feb 2014 #2
It won't. Those Democrats that have a desire today to run, will still run regardless of the midterm lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #4
That comports with my grasp of the current political situation. n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #9
Romney will not run regardless, and no matter what happens in the midterms, the repukes are going to lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #3
I think the Democrats will retain the Senate. yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #7
The one caveat is that we have to GOTV. If we come out to vote we will win. 2012 really said it lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #12
Who would want to be POTUS if the GOP controlled both houses of Congress? CK_John Feb 2014 #8
A lot of people. In fact it would be the most important job in the world if that was the case, lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #21
Can you image the deals and money to be made, of course Mitt would run. CK_John Feb 2014 #13
He really didn't want to run in 2012, but more than that, the fundamentalist christians had and have lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #22
Focused like a laser beam...the GOP's mission is to nullify each and Ninga Feb 2014 #5
I dont get what you are saying. libtodeath Feb 2014 #6
see post 8. CK_John Feb 2014 #10
That is just nonsense and defeatist libtodeath Feb 2014 #11
It is actual politics 101. CK_John Feb 2014 #14
If that was the case libtodeath Feb 2014 #15
If the GOP take both houses in 2014, what will it be like in 2016? CK_John Feb 2014 #17
Who knows,that will be 2 years after the fact and a couple months is an eternity in politics libtodeath Feb 2014 #18
"If" is a very big word, and I like to wonder outloud. CK_John Feb 2014 #19
We need the House back. marble falls Feb 2014 #16
I would use the words strongly influence, instead of determine, but tend to agree. Lurks Often Feb 2014 #20

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
1. Genuinely curious here.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:23 AM
Feb 2014

I'd like to see the analysis behind this prediction. Why would a GOP takeover of the Senate force out some Democratic candidates for President?



-Laelth

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
4. It won't. Those Democrats that have a desire today to run, will still run regardless of the midterm
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:31 AM
Feb 2014

republicans are a different story. They are fighting to try to prevent the complete take over of their party by the tea party

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
3. Romney will not run regardless, and no matter what happens in the midterms, the repukes are going to
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:28 AM
Feb 2014

do everything in their power to cut off the tea party in 2016. They are already doing it. They are shortening the debates, and moving the primaries up with that intent.

In spite of our wonderful MSM saying the the Democrats are toast, I think the Democrats will retain the Senate. The republicans continue to distinguish themselves as anti-women, anti-minority, healthcare, etc.

For the Democrats, regardless of the outcome of the midterms, it won't change those who already want to run

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
7. I think the Democrats will retain the Senate.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:32 AM
Feb 2014

I hope you are right. It would be nice if we didn't have to fight in so many red states though. That is the problem. However, we are in great shape in 2016 when the Republicans are in our shoes this election. They have a ton to fight for in 2016 and the President. So IF we do lose, it will be for 2 years and that is it which Obama will just VETO everything that cross' his desk. Not great to have but not hell. I would rather be in our position then the Republicans quite frankly.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
12. The one caveat is that we have to GOTV. If we come out to vote we will win. 2012 really said it
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:38 AM
Feb 2014

all. We were supposed to lose Missouri and some other states in the Senate, and what happened? The populous saw the republicans for what they are, and they have gotten even worse especially on women's issues, which should have been the lessons of 2012, but they learned nothing, and continue to do so. The republican mainstream is now against contraception, and abortion in the cases of rape, incest, and the life of the mother, and they have been campaigning on that.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
8. Who would want to be POTUS if the GOP controlled both houses of Congress?
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:33 AM
Feb 2014

I assume Biden would be a good soldier and run.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
21. A lot of people. In fact it would be the most important job in the world if that was the case,
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 04:31 PM
Feb 2014

because of the veto power.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
22. He really didn't want to run in 2012, but more than that, the fundamentalist christians had and have
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 04:36 PM
Feb 2014

and issue with Mormons, along with the tea party elements. The repuke party would be in full revolt against him regardless of the deals.

That is my view, and keep in mind all the screw-ups in the last election are not forgotten.

However, it could happen later, like Nixon. In my view Jeb is going to run. He has wanted it for a long time.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
5. Focused like a laser beam...the GOP's mission is to nullify each and
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:31 AM
Feb 2014

every program, bill, bi-partisan thought, presidential appointee....blah blah blah...

Their chipping away will have an affect at the polls, until and unless the Dems pick one meme and run with it....

Low information voters, stupid voters, base the vote on who makes the most noise.

That is exactly what happened in 2010, when the new, emerging Tea party captured the message and framed it such a way that Dems fell like dominos.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
6. I dont get what you are saying.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:31 AM
Feb 2014

Are you suggesting that if we get a disaster of a repuke senate that it means we are assured a repuke president too.
I dont buy that for a minute.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
11. That is just nonsense and defeatist
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:37 AM
Feb 2014

Whoever controls congress will have no impact on who runs for president,especially in an open election with no incumbent.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
15. If that was the case
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:46 AM
Feb 2014

why did VP Gore run in 2000,he thought he was just a sacrifice?
Baloney,there are people dreaming of being president for years and they dont give a crap what the make up of congress is.

libtodeath

(2,888 posts)
18. Who knows,that will be 2 years after the fact and a couple months is an eternity in politics
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:00 PM
Feb 2014

To be honest if a person thought dealing with a repuke congress was just too tough then I dont want them as president anyways.
I want someone who will fight for us and believe we will have a candidate who will.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
20. I would use the words strongly influence, instead of determine, but tend to agree.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 12:30 PM
Feb 2014

2016 will be probably be the last chance for Biden, Clinton or others of their generation to run for President, so they are in either way (presuming they choose to run at all). H

However younger Democrats, such as those that will be younger then 65ish by 2020, recognize that they will likely have another chance to run for President and not have the political negatives of having run already and lost.

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