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TBF

(32,041 posts)
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 10:14 PM Feb 2014

Zuckerberg Donates $992 Million To Charity That Funds Planned Parenthood

Nice to see some of his money being donated to good causes -- and it will be interesting to see if the fundies now decide to boycott Facebook --


Zuckerberg Donates $992 Million To Charity That Funds Planned Parenthood

February 12, 2014

The anti-choice site, Life News, reported that Facebook co-founder, Mark Zuckerberg, and his wife, pediatrician Priscilla Chan, donated 18 million shares of Facebook valued at $992 million to the Silicon Valley Community Foundation (SVCF) in Mountain View, California in 2013. The couple previously donated 19 million Facebook shares to the same foundation in 2012.

SVCF describes itself as a “comprehensive center of philanthropy.” They partner with donors to fund for profit and non-profit organizations around the world. The anti-choice site noted there are many words that describe the values of the foundation but the one they focused in on was “collaboration.” Planned Parenthood was pointed out as one of the organizations that benefit from donations.

http://samuel-warde.com/2014/02/zuckerberg-donates-992-million-charity-funds-planned-parenthood/

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Zuckerberg Donates $992 Million To Charity That Funds Planned Parenthood (Original Post) TBF Feb 2014 OP
Credit where credit is do. iandhr Feb 2014 #1
I hear you - TBF Feb 2014 #2
It *is* due. Where can I send a thank you note? LiberalAndProud Feb 2014 #12
I agree with you. iandhr Feb 2014 #14
The fundies will stay on FB. They love how Zuckerberg flipped the bird at the US to not pay taxes. freshwest Feb 2014 #3
There seem to be 2 groups - TBF Feb 2014 #4
That's a lot of money.... penultimate Feb 2014 #5
Overall I fault the system TBF Feb 2014 #6
Evil? yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #28
They did not donate cash PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #7
It's still not chump change. hobbit709 Feb 2014 #8
If they can unload it while it still has value PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #10
Its not chump change but there is also a huge reduction in taxes. former9thward Feb 2014 #15
Not even paper. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2014 #9
True, just a data entry PowerToThePeople Feb 2014 #11
Fair point - TBF Feb 2014 #13
That money could have bought healthcare for many many families. just sayin.nt clarice Feb 2014 #16
That's a very interesting comment TBF Feb 2014 #17
No, none at all.........nt clarice Feb 2014 #19
Yes, if only organizations like planned parenthood provided health care. n/t hughee99 Feb 2014 #18
You know what I meant....why the snarky comments? nt clarice Feb 2014 #20
It sounded like you were implying that the money was donated to an unworthy cause. n/t hughee99 Feb 2014 #21
I didn't mean that at all.....I just thought that using... clarice Feb 2014 #22
There's people all over the world who don't have food, hughee99 Feb 2014 #25
No good deed goes unpunished. HappyMe Feb 2014 #29
You are correct clarice Feb 2014 #32
No matter which charity you give money to, someone else Ilsa Feb 2014 #42
Why do you have to second guess his donation? clarice Feb 2014 #44
oooops, meant 1st amendment. nt clarice Feb 2014 #45
Guns? Ilsa Feb 2014 #46
Got four of them. nt clarice Feb 2014 #47
I was asking: Why is contributing to PP a gun issue? Ilsa Feb 2014 #48
I corrected myself in the next post. nt clarice Feb 2014 #49
What about his lawyers? penultimate Feb 2014 #50
Women are in families too - TBF Feb 2014 #34
That is not what I said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! clarice Feb 2014 #36
Maybe you could clarify - TBF Feb 2014 #39
Or maybe don't be offensive! JTFrog Feb 2014 #40
How much of that money will directly impact those in need joeglow3 Feb 2014 #24
While i agree on the overhead, if Zuckerberg were to take it on himself to distribute $1 billion hughee99 Feb 2014 #26
It IS buying healthcare for many, many families. Ilsa Feb 2014 #41
Ok...ONE MORE TIME... clarice Feb 2014 #43
It's sick that that can even happen. No person should have that much money. mucifer Feb 2014 #23
This is the real point. We live off of whatever the rich deign to give us, like a pet... nt Romulox Feb 2014 #27
While I agree on theory (re how much money TBF Feb 2014 #35
There is nothing greedier than giving away almost a billion dollars to charity... THAT PIG! penultimate Feb 2014 #53
what, he couldn't find another $8 million in the sofa cushions? unblock Feb 2014 #30
Some of the DU responses are amazingly churlish Hekate Feb 2014 #31
It's interesting Hekate - TBF Feb 2014 #37
Awesome! nt ZombieHorde Feb 2014 #33
Yes, I thought so too! :) nt TBF Feb 2014 #38
Good news! flamingdem Feb 2014 #51
Good man! More billionaires need to follow his example. nt ladjf Feb 2014 #52
It is good to know that people with so much money Dawson Leery Feb 2014 #54

TBF

(32,041 posts)
2. I hear you -
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 11:39 PM
Feb 2014

I'm not crazy about so much money in so few hands, but at least he's doing something positive with his wealth.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
12. It *is* due. Where can I send a thank you note?
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:27 AM
Feb 2014

Maybe I'll send a couple $ myself, as a token of my appreciation.

This is a Good Thing. </MarthaStewartVoice>

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
3. The fundies will stay on FB. They love how Zuckerberg flipped the bird at the US to not pay taxes.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 12:07 AM
Feb 2014
That's what they're really about.

TBF

(32,041 posts)
4. There seem to be 2 groups -
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:39 AM
Feb 2014

1 - old school republicans who, as you say, are greedy fucks and don't want to pay their price at being part of society (taxes) - Jeb Bush et al

2 - freaky fundy folks - who think they can use their bibles to control everything around them (not to be confused with folks who are simply religious and/or spiritual) - Ted Cruz et al


I was thinking of the 2nd group but agree that the first group is still very powerful.


penultimate

(1,110 posts)
5. That's a lot of money....
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:58 AM
Feb 2014

He could have bought a B-2 bomber instead.... Which is actually more in line with what I'd expect from an evil evil evil evil person like Mr. Zuckerberg.

TBF

(32,041 posts)
6. Overall I fault the system
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:03 AM
Feb 2014

as opposed to the individual. But yes at least he gives to progressive causes which is quite unlike the evil Koch crooks.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
28. Evil?
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:30 PM
Feb 2014

He gave the most money of any American. I hardly believe he is evil. Smart as hell. Ingenius as heck. Evil….no way.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
7. They did not donate cash
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:03 AM
Feb 2014

The donated paper. In order to get cash, the charity has to sell the paper into the market. Doing so puts downward pressure on the price of the paper (already 105:1 P/E ratio). Certainly still a great thing to do, just saying it is not as grand as the headline seems to try to portray.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
10. If they can unload it while it still has value
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:13 AM
Feb 2014

It is very likely that FB will go to zero. It is just a matter of time.

I am sure they will get quite a lot of cash out of the donation. I just think the headline is kind of grand standing, in so much as it wasn't 992 million in cash.

former9thward

(31,970 posts)
15. Its not chump change but there is also a huge reduction in taxes.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 12:12 PM
Feb 2014

He will get at least $450 million in reduced taxes so his balance sheet "loses" about $500 million -- if that depending on how his accountants structured the donation.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,365 posts)
9. Not even paper.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:10 AM
Feb 2014

Data entries.

And you are absolutely correct. I was going to post the same basic idea before I read yours. The charity had better be able to liquidate at or near the current price to get that $992 mil.


Facebook share price from Yahoo Finance

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
11. True, just a data entry
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:18 AM
Feb 2014

I had some paper shares of a Company back in the 90s. I sent them to Ameritrade to open an account with them way back when. Now it is all data entries in a computer. Same with bank deposits. Not sure how I feel about that. I have been moving more of my ever decreasing worth over to "real" assets. They are not as simple to liquidate, which in some ways is a plus to retaining they worth stored in them.

TBF

(32,041 posts)
13. Fair point -
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:18 AM
Feb 2014

Facebook seems pretty stable. They've done a good job keeping average Americans interested in it (not trying too hard to keep teenagers - which is actually smart because teens don't have as much money as their parents). But yes they have to think about how/when to liquidate.

TBF

(32,041 posts)
17. That's a very interesting comment
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 12:22 PM
Feb 2014

as Planned Parenthood provides health care to women. Do you have a problem with Planned Parenthood?

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
22. I didn't mean that at all.....I just thought that using...
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:06 PM
Feb 2014

That money to buy families health insurance is more of an "immediate" need.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
25. There's people all over the world who don't have food,
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:16 PM
Feb 2014

isn't that a more immediate need than people who don't have health insurance? And given that he donated to an organization that donates to planned parenthood, maybe some of it will be paying for families health insurance.

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
42. No matter which charity you give money to, someone else
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 03:15 PM
Feb 2014

can always find a "better" charity for you to send your money to.

"Church? You gave your money to your church? What's wrong with you?"

"You gave $ to a political candidate? What were you thinking?"

Why do you have to second guess his donation? Obviously he feels this is a need that no one else is addressing.

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
44. Why do you have to second guess his donation?
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 03:16 PM
Feb 2014

Because this is America......something about that 2nd ammendment thing

TBF

(32,041 posts)
34. Women are in families too -
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 02:57 PM
Feb 2014

how is "families" health insurance more important that a woman's health care? That's what Planned Parenthood provides - health care for women. I would think the need for health care for all would be equal.

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
36. That is not what I said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 03:01 PM
Feb 2014

Please don't be one of the "CO" group. (constantly offended)

TBF

(32,041 posts)
39. Maybe you could clarify -
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 03:05 PM
Feb 2014

I'm obviously not understanding what you said. I'm not offended, just surprised by your remarks as folks on DU are usually supportive of Planned Parenthood and the health care it provides for women.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
40. Or maybe don't be offensive!
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 03:07 PM
Feb 2014

Funny how folks never really think of it that way. Wasn't gonna say anything, but "CO" group? Yea, that's offensive too.

 

joeglow3

(6,228 posts)
24. How much of that money will directly impact those in need
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:11 PM
Feb 2014

versus how much will end up in some executive's hands? I hate these kind of multi-layer charitable organizations. Now, instead of funding one layer of admin costs, you get to fund two or more layers.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
26. While i agree on the overhead, if Zuckerberg were to take it on himself to distribute $1 billion
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:21 PM
Feb 2014

worth of Facebook shares to various charities, I'm not sure you wouldn't end up with a significant loss rate anyway.

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
41. It IS buying healthcare for many, many families.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 03:07 PM
Feb 2014

Many mothers and their teen daughters will gain benefit from PP's preventive care, pap smears, breast exams, and sex education. Sure, it isn't the only healthcare they might need, but it usually is the predominant area of care needed for this population.

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
43. Ok...ONE MORE TIME...
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 03:15 PM
Feb 2014

I am NOT opposed to PP...I am A WOMAN for F____k's sake.
Give it a rest !!!!

mucifer

(23,522 posts)
23. It's sick that that can even happen. No person should have that much money.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:09 PM
Feb 2014

I really can't look beyond that because of how greedy he is in general .

TBF

(32,041 posts)
35. While I agree on theory (re how much money
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 02:59 PM
Feb 2014

each individual needs) - is it greed or is it the system that encourages it? That is what I would encourage folks to think about.

Zuckerberg's just a symptom of a very big problem. We (meaning wealthy adults) give money to charity because it makes us feel better & gives us tax breaks. That's why Zuckerberg gives just like anyone else.

Wouldn't it be better if the we had a more equitable economic system to start with - so there wouldn't be a need for charity?

Hekate

(90,633 posts)
31. Some of the DU responses are amazingly churlish
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 01:50 PM
Feb 2014

Here's the link to what this organization is and does: http://www.siliconvalleycf.org/

If someone gave me nearly a billion dollars I think I could find it in my heart to say Thank You rather than spitting in their eye.

TBF

(32,041 posts)
37. It's interesting Hekate -
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 03:01 PM
Feb 2014

while I tend to be further left and see you as more pragmatic, I originally posted this as a "yay, Mark Zuckerberg did something good with his money!" type of OP. I didn't mean to get into the extraneous topics but so far I have seen greed, income inequality and Planned Parenthood as the recipient being questioned. Much more than I intended with this, but that's ok.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
54. It is good to know that people with so much money
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:31 PM
Feb 2014

have the good sense to donate to worthy causes. (unlike the Kochs and Adelson who use their billions to reshape the government to protect their monopolies).

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