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Bandit

(21,475 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 12:45 PM Feb 2014

Republican's next big Brain Storm, They want to repeal the 17th Amendment

Isaacson says he'd like to repeal 17th Amendment
JUNEAU, Alaska (AP) — A North Pole legislator says he'd like to repeal the 17th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which allows the people of a given state to elect their U.S. senators.

Rep. Doug Isaacson made the comment during discussion on a proposed amendment to Alaska's constitution that would make the attorney general an elected post rather than an appointed one.

Isaacson said he has great confidence in the people. But he says we sometimes make mistakes as voters and correct those later on.

He said he could see someone be elected attorney general who comes across well but delivers poorly.

He said states lost their powers to control congressional and federal overreach when the power for state Legislatures to send people to the Senate was lost with passage of the 17th Amendment.


http://www.kinyradio.com/juneaunews/latest_juneau_news.html
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Republican's next big Brain Storm, They want to repeal the 17th Amendment (Original Post) Bandit Feb 2014 OP
They are for the Constitution mikeysnot Feb 2014 #1
No surprise - they are ideologically committed to oligarchy Distant Quasar Feb 2014 #2
+1. n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #5
They have been floating this idea for a while el_bryanto Feb 2014 #3
Of course, they do HereSince1628 Feb 2014 #4
Republicans want Wall Street to appoint Senators. Scuba Feb 2014 #6
The real problem, from the Republican PoV, is that Federal Senate elections struggle4progress Feb 2014 #7
Bingo. NYC Liberal Feb 2014 #8
that horse has left the barn treestar Feb 2014 #9
Ted Cruz at ALEC summit: end direct vote for senators (December 2013) struggle4progress Feb 2014 #10

Distant Quasar

(142 posts)
2. No surprise - they are ideologically committed to oligarchy
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 12:52 PM
Feb 2014

I'm sure many conservatives would like to restore property qualifications for voting, as well.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
3. They have been floating this idea for a while
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 12:53 PM
Feb 2014

Of course in many states, including ones with substantial Democratic minorities, they have a lock on the legislature so this works out well for them.

Bryant

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
4. Of course, they do
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 12:59 PM
Feb 2014

A senate that represents Koch-controlled state legislatures is just what the corporatists desire.

struggle4progress

(118,237 posts)
7. The real problem, from the Republican PoV, is that Federal Senate elections
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 02:01 PM
Feb 2014

are statewide elections and so cannot easily be controlled by gerrymandering, unlike Federal House and state legislature elections. Repeal of the 17th amendment would mean Federal Senate elections can once again be controlled by gerrymandering

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
8. Bingo.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 02:04 PM
Feb 2014

In THEORY, the original design of Congress was good. Senate represents the states directly and the House represents the people directly. However, like many things, it doesn't work well in the real world, or when circumstances change over time. That's why the 17th Amendment was passed.

struggle4progress

(118,237 posts)
10. Ted Cruz at ALEC summit: end direct vote for senators (December 2013)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 02:14 PM
Feb 2014

By Todd J. Gillman
3:32 pm on December 5, 2013

... The 17th Amendment was ratified in 1913 amid dismay that powerful federal lawmakers were sometimes picked through corruption and backroom deals ... Cruz spoke over lunch to a policy summit of the American Legislative Exchange Council, a controversial group that for years has quietly circulated “model” legislation on anything from voter ID rules to tax policy. He got standing ovations ...

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/2013/12/ted-cruz-at-alec-summit-end-direct-vote-for-senators.html/

So --- whenever you need to talk about the 17th amendment, be sure to put in a bad word for Cruz and for ALEC

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